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Matt · 11-24-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectnobody

really?! that's awesome, where can i read this? so how does that work, i still have to pay it though, but i'll get it back when i do my taxes?! Great! thanks for the info, definitely makes my purchase much more easier as i have been accounting for $3,000 dollars as sales tax (i think, my numbers might be off) which i might get back (assuming your info is correct... i believe you...lol) next year...

will post my visit later, firefox was not able to open that link though, you might want to fix it.

Let's say you make $100,000 this year. If you pay $5,000 in taxes on the Z, then you'll pay taxes on $95,000 of your income in 2010. It's a write-off or "deduction" not a true credit.

New Car Tax Rebate- Obama Economic Stimulus Plan: Cash Back on 2009 Vehicle Purchase, Not Tax Credit on Federal Return | Suite101.com

perfectnobody · 11-24-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

End of Model year 2009 - What are current prices?

Ya, you have to pay it at sale, then you whack it off the tax return. You can google the subject................

thanks
found this

!!!GREAT NEWS

thanks for that, best news ever since i was not expecting it. this actually makes buying a 2009 model more attractive than buying a 2010 since you may not receive this stimulus in 2011 tax returns...

will keep you posted!

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Let's say you make $100,000 this year. If you pay $5,000 in taxes on the Z, then you'll pay taxes on $95,000 of your income in 2010. It's a write-off or "deduction" not a true credit.

New Car Tax Rebate- Obama Economic Stimulus Plan: Cash Back on 2009 Vehicle Purchase, Not Tax Credit on Federal Return | Suite101.com

Thanks, Matt.

It's like putting money in an IRA (almost).

Matt · 11-24-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Thanks, Matt.

It's like putting money in an IRA (almost).

Which reminds me. I really have to max mine out before I do my taxes. I forget and then I'm too lazy to amend my return.

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 07:32 AM

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Which reminds me. I really have to max mine out before I do my taxes. I forget and then I'm too lazy to amend my return.

You can add the money right up to April 15 2010

Matt · 11-24-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

You can add the money right up to April 15 2010

I do my taxes in Feb and never feel like amending, so I usually just spend my extra money irresponsibly on things like a 370z or something....

perfectnobody · 11-24-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Let's say you make $100,000 this year. If you pay $5,000 in taxes on the Z, then you'll pay taxes on $95,000 of your income in 2010. It's a write-off or "deduction" not a true credit.

New Car Tax Rebate- Obama Economic Stimulus Plan: Cash Back on 2009 Vehicle Purchase, Not Tax Credit on Federal Return | Suite101.com

so basically, they take the amount of tax you pay on a "Z" (i think it's about $3,000 for base plus sports... not 100%) and deduct that from your gross income for the year and you are only taxed on the remaining...

so you are not actually getting$3,000 back, just getting taxed less.

still better than i was expecting in the first place, so it's still great!

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectnobody

so basically, they take the amount of tax you pay on a "Z" (i think it's about $3,000 for base plus sports... not 100%) and deduct that from your gross income for the year and you are only taxed on the remaining...

so you are not actually getting$3,000 back, just getting taxed less.

still better than i was expecting in the first place, so it's still great!

Don't forget that you may wind up in a lower tax bracket after the deduction.

Matt · 11-24-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectnobody

so basically, they take the amount of tax you pay on a "Z" (i think it's about $3,000 for base plus sports... not 100%) and deduct that from your gross income for the year and you are only taxed on the remaining...

so you are not actually getting$3,000 back, just getting taxed less.

still better than i was expecting in the first place, so it's still great!

Yep, not a true credit like the new home buyers get, but still not bad! Especially when you add it up with mortgage interest, charities, etc.

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Don't forget that you may wind up in a lower tax bracket after the deduction.

I'm going to have to look hard at it this year, more than normal. Because of a substantial raise this year, it'll be the first time I'm even close to the next tax bracket. There may be a few lucky charities out there if math is on their side!

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Yep, not a true credit like the new home buyers get, but still not bad! Especially when you add it up with mortgage interest, charities, etc.

I'm going to have to look hard at it this year, more than normal. Because of a substantial raise this year, it'll be the first time I'm even close to the next tax bracket. There may be a few lucky charities out there if math is on their side!

If you are now above $80k income, get ready for sticker shock, Bubba!

perfectnobody · 11-24-2009, 08:19 AM

so after reading this article to try and understand this better... how does this push you up into another tax bracket, i thought it would push you down,

for example (based on article) lets say your total income for the year is $78,000 putting you in the 25% bracket and you get a tax deductible of $3,000 for buying a Z, wouldn't that make your total taxable income $75,000? or is it the other way round with the $3,000 increasing your total taxable income to $81,000 pushing you into the 28% bracket (don't know why it would, maybe someone can clarify)

thanks!

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectnobody

so after reading this article to try and understand this better... how does this push you up into another tax bracket, i thought it would push you down,

for example (based on article) lets say your total income for the year is $78,000 putting you in the 25% bracket and you get a tax deductible of $3,000 for buying a Z, wouldn't that make your total taxable income $75,000? or is it the other way round with the $3,000 increasing your total taxable income to $81,000 pushing you into the 28% bracket (don't know why it would, maybe someone can clarify)

thanks!

You are confused. The $3000 reduction would keep you in the same tax bracket, maybe even put you in a lower one. If your gross income was $81k, you would be taxed at a $78k rate after the tax credit.

perfectnobody · 11-24-2009, 08:37 AM

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You are confused. The $3000 reduction would keep you in the same tax bracket, maybe even put you in a lower one. If your gross income was $81k, you would be taxed at a $78k rate after the tax credit.

that's what i thought the first time

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Don't forget that you may wind up in a lower tax bracket after the deduction.

so you meant this as a good thing then...

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

If you are now above $80k income, get ready for sticker shock, Bubba!

i guess i got confused by this, i didn't get the meaning, thought it was a bad thing

thanks for the clarification!

spinhead · 11-24-2009, 09:02 AM

Tax brackets are applied incrementally anyway, it's not a big deal to hit the next one. It's not like all your income will be taxed at the higher level.

JMA · 11-26-2009, 12:36 AM

...just be aware that in the states that don't have state income tax, like Texas, you have always been able to deduct vehicle taxes and so under the new incentive plan (that runs out in Dec) you won't be able to do anything new. In other words, you can't deduct the taxes twice in those states.

11-24-2009, 08:19 AM	#26 (permalink)
perfectnobody Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: jersey Posts: 36 Drives: Red 370z b w/st 2009 Rep Power: 16	so after reading this article to try and understand this better... how does this push you up into another tax bracket, i thought it would push you down, for example (based on article) lets say your total income for the year is $78,000 putting you in the 25% bracket and you get a tax deductible of $3,000 for buying a Z, wouldn't that make your total taxable income $75,000? or is it the other way round with the $3,000 increasing your total taxable income to $81,000 pushing you into the 28% bracket (don't know why it would, maybe someone can clarify) thanks!

11-24-2009, 09:02 AM	#29 (permalink)
spinhead Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: N. Bethesda, MD Posts: 162 Drives: 09 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 3388	Tax brackets are applied incrementally anyway, it's not a big deal to hit the next one. It's not like all your income will be taxed at the higher level.

11-26-2009, 12:36 AM	#30 (permalink)
JMA Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: TX Posts: 5 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 16	...just be aware that in the states that don't have state income tax, like Texas, you have always been able to deduct vehicle taxes and so under the new incentive plan (that runs out in Dec) you won't be able to do anything new. In other words, you can't deduct the taxes twice in those states.