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A 1.6 or 2.0 liter engine doesn't sound right. Way too small for the Z car. Nissan if I remember correctly was patenting a 3.0T name or something. That sounds more legitimate, and for the Z to drop the V6 after all these years, it's practically it's signature trait that's been there for 40yrs. I'm looking at a small displacement in the V6 with a Turbo.

I'm hoping that's for the supposed mini Z. This would be sad. I was also expecting a lower displacement TT V6.

oh man i dont like this nissan you should just make a whole new car.

hmmmmm idk yet lol

a small displacement 6 cylinder tt would be great... along with a similar body silhouette liek the datsun 240z, long front end with high arches and short rear

I agree. Personally they should make a stock v6 twin turbo. But that means the GTR will need a bigger engine. Four cylinder turbo would have to produce at least 300whp and 300torque.

If Nissan plans on downsizing the Z to compete with the FT86 (and possible BRZ turbo) then it makes sense.

The question is will we get a Mini Z AND a big Z or are they just planning on a complete downsizing of the car.

I think it will be ok if the Z gets somewhere around 350-400 bhp with it's stock TT V6. GT-R has more like 550 hp and they give it a bump every year. Still plenty of room in between IMO.

Well either way, they wanted to downsize the Z. If not dimension wise then at least in terms of weight.

I shouldn't have used the word downsize. I meant to drop it down to a different segment of car.

I like it. It's smart. Nissan would give us a inline 4 turbo and we can still keep our V6 with a nismo version, its the best of both worlds. a TT v6 would cost to much. we all know if the Toyota GT86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ came with the turbo its game over. So Nissan wants fill that void first.

Blasphemy!

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THIS. I think the best possible way to make this whole thing happen is to make a Z that meets the BRZ and a bumped up Z (370 with a bit more more power - closer to the V8 pony cars) to meet that market.

Hyundai is doing it right with the Genesis Coupe, IMHO. They've about got that product portfolio dialed in for it. The new ones keep getting more power. Honestly, if it weren't for the Subarota twins being so light and nimble, I don't know why anyone would buy one of those over a 2013 Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec (270 HP turbo four RWD, very mod friendly).

Maybe Nissan will make trims for the new Z and keep the masses happy, a la Z32 NA/TT, but smarter with regards to price points in the current market.

Yeah I mentioned that somewhere else earlier that Nissan could do something like the gen coupe. Offer the Z in a lower trim with turbo 4 and higher trim (like Nismo) could be V6. It would certainly expand the Z's sales covering 2 separate markets vs just one that's in the middle.

With the recent price increases on the 370Z, they may be trying to find a way to keep a sports car in the high 20's. At 45k for a Nismo or a loaded Touring, the Z is losing out on many customers.

I posted this in another thread but it applies here:

I've said before that I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan decides to withdraw the Z from its current segment and reinvent it to compete with the FT86.

The 370Z has had a tough go as far as actual vs. projected sales numbers go. Given the future climate for fuel (high gas prices and high fleetwide average MPG requirements) I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan makes such a move... perhaps offering a NA 4 and a turbo 4 like we might see out of the BRZ.

Or perhaps they will keep the Z in its current segment but offer multiple engine configurations like Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, etc. I have my doubts about this, though.

Hate to see the Z step down from being a Cayman fighter to a FT86 fighter :shakes head:

My money is on a twin scroll 3.0 6cyl turbo for the next Z with 345hp

I think there are two reasons for this losing out.

1) I think at 45K, there are plenty of SRT-8 Challengers, Mustang GT(Boss, whatever trim is around there - probably GT with all the niceties) on the road. Why these over a Z? One big reason in today's market is they're usable daily cars with power (backseats, trunks) and the 370Z is not. This makes 45k for a sports car much more justifiable for many people. You could take a Challenger on a long road trip for an extended stay somewhere. Highly unlikely in any Z unless you're by yourself. Even then, packing for a 10 day trip by yourself is pushing the cargo capacity of a Z.

2) Power. Even though the Z can hang on the track with a GT Mustang (can hang, not saying it blows these cars away or anything before any V8 fans get their panties in a bunch), horsepower is the most marketable figure for a sports car. To the casual sports car buyer, at the price point, a guy is looking at a GT Mustang and seeing 400+ HP, and back at a Z and seeing 300+ HP.

I really think Nissan could see many more Zs on the road if the car was a 2+2 making 400 HP to compete alongside the pony cars a bit more nicely in today's market, but it may be too late to jump in there with the way the car market is going, in addition to having to sell against the pedigree of cars like the Mustang and Camaro.

On top of that, Nissan executives seem more fixated on 40 MPG than 400HP in anything save the GT-R. I half expect the next Z to come with some revolutionary "race-grade" CVT transmission as an option, at which point I will buy a Mustang out of spite or simply keep the last of the Mohicans in my 40th Anniversary Z. Seriously - these are managers that say the Juke is suitable competition to the Subarota twins :ugh2:

If it is true, remember, I called it two plus years ago! But I think it will be a 2.4 turbo.

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Seriously don't understand why Nissan can't keep the Z in the segment it's in and just bring back the Silvia to fight the toyobaru's.

They should go with a 2014 240Z, I4 2.4L Single Turbo, 240 hp&tq, 2700 lbs, 26/34 mpg, $30K car. That would drop my boxers.

Money.

The 370Z was approved with an estimate for about 30,000 units sold in 2009 alone. The car only sold about 10,000 units. It took a little over three years for sales to hit the 30,000 originally forecast for the first year.

So if you put your Nissan bean counter hat on you might ask yourself if it's worthwhile to continue to market the Z in this segment. There is so much competition in the 30-45k range that makes it difficult for a 2 seat sports car to thrive.

Who knows, we might see Nissan make another go at it... but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they decide to withdraw and try to sell the Z in a different segment.

Stupid accountants. :shakes head:

Hey I resemble that remark! :bowrofl:

:iagree: well put

fwiw I'm an engineer so my basic existence is all about hating accountants and figuring out ways to make there life difficult. :roflpuke2:

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I'm glad I didn't act on my accounting degree and got a job in finance trying to help rich people get even richer. :icon17:

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+1 for engineers. We want more performance, let the silly accountants worry about sales :icon17:

There is nothing wrong with a turbo 4. Hell, if its anything like the EVO and STI motors, we will have a more potent engine then now.

O_o How about bringing back the Silvia and be done with it? Maybe a 1.6-2.4L turbo coupe to compete against the Scion/Subaru. I'd personally like to see something under $20k.

The Z is getting overpriced and the performance/price value appears to be diminishing. Bring back the 2.6-3.0L turbo, weight close to 3k, and I wouldn't mind paying sub $30k for one. There are proportions on this car that can be shaved.

Its not all about power either. I'm sure with the right balance the Z can become a good looking and amazing handling car. It would be nice to start out N/A in the sub 20k with a VQ25 or newer design. It does not need a design to support dub wheels either and maybe max out around 18 or 19. Heck I miss the proportions of the Z32.

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If the z drop down to 4 cylinders. I will drop the z too!!:) actually I loves to have a Cadillac cts-v coupe right now!!:) but can't afford it!! Lol!!:) if the next z still v6 with turbo or even without turbo I might consider it my next car.


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This is news? Writing was on the wall over a year ago. Nissan execs have been hyping 1.6 turbo motor, they have nothing to compete with ft86, gas prices in Cali headed to $5 a gal, US gov requiring higher mileage cars.

Doesn't make sense for Z to be heavy 6 cylinder.

I love fact 370z will be last 6 Cylinder Z!

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It is all speculation. Couldn't care less. Bring on the low displacement turbo motors. That's going to be the trend.