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tbonesteak 06-18-2009 03:50 PM

370 Touring Vs 370 Nismo Comparo w/ Video
 
IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring | Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

by Edmunds.com. Surprising result although there may have been variables that skewed the data. I'm surprised that's for sure. Mods please remove if this is a repost. Couldn't find anything with a search.

MC 06-18-2009 03:55 PM

hmm. thats not so good

RDGR12 06-18-2009 04:21 PM

^^^+1

I guess there was much anticipation that this car would outperform the regular Z. It's not really doing it all that well with those numbers. But it is much nicer looking compare to the NISMO 350Z.

GnmtGTR 06-18-2009 04:40 PM

Maybe I have too much faith in Nissan on this one, but I just can't imagine that they would charge this much of a premium for the car, put a Nismo name on it and have it be no better. Maybe I'm being nieve, but I just have a feeling that when both cars are at the same track, on the same day, with the same driver, the Nismo HAS to come out a few seconds better at the very least. Being "More Stable" but no faster is unacceptable. Then again, I got a GT-R, was jealous of the Spec V when I heard about it, then after seeing all the Vid's, not so much anymore............

Endgame 06-18-2009 05:32 PM

Wow. I wonder why the skidpad results were so different?! You would think the wider tires made it more sticky....

Although, I would like to see both on a track at the same time. For example, I find it VERY hard to believe the Spec V is not faster than the GTR. I am sure we will see the Z's and both GTRs compared more accurately soon.

GnmtGTR 06-18-2009 05:57 PM

I'm still suprised that we have seen the nur times for the spec v, I'm sure it's faster, but for 80k faster, it better be in the low 7:20's at least for it to seem worth it. Same with the 370 nismo, just on a different scale. I guess we wait and see at this point, and hope that it's not from edmunds.com either, no offense to anyone, but the VoiceOver guy sounds like he is calling a golf tournament half the time.

zman1910 06-18-2009 06:30 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...70z-specs.html

Tenorino 06-18-2009 09:38 PM

My point made to the last guy who insisted the Nismo is a track car and was surprisingly dissappointed by another review. It is simply a marketing tool for those who want to feel like they are getting a truer sports car while driving on their freeways and roads at home. Fancy body kit and some suspension tweaks do not make a track car!

fly yellow 06-18-2009 11:34 PM

I see the oil cooler folks from the forum have made their way over there to tell people that they won't be buying the car. I bet someone at Nissan got fired for putting the oil temp gauge on the Z.

tbonesteak 06-19-2009 12:46 AM

i just don't understand how the exhaust and the tune didn't give the car that extra bump to atleast defeat the touring in straightline acceleration. Something is fishy.

chuynh207 06-19-2009 01:17 AM

hmmm, this isn't good... I was really looking forward to geting a NISMO 370z, but now it seems like it's something I should put off...

oemz 06-19-2009 07:18 PM

Because the magazine comparo people do not know what they are doing.

k20z3 06-19-2009 07:21 PM

Im glad cause I want the sport touring

zman1910 06-19-2009 09:16 PM

I would still want the Nismo version simply bc of the bodykit and rims. I absolutely hate the front end of the regular Z and I think the rims suit the car and fill out the wheel wells very nicely. When all is said and done you'll be able to get the Nismo for 36-37k much like a loaded touring sport w/manual.

Most importantly to me is that I've never had a bodykit on a car, but I've seen horror stories about bad fitment, paint colors not matching and I would not want to deal with any of that. In other words this would be a great solution for me. I'd be paying 4-5k more than a base+sport which isn't too terrible, considering that a good paint job for any bodykit would be upwards of 1k, not to mention the bodykit itself would be upwards of 1k and then don't forget the nicer rims(2-3k with tires). In a way it would actually be justifiable.

tbonesteak 06-20-2009 12:27 AM

i'd rather pick up a regular sport @ invoice and start tuning the car myself. Bumper is an easy replacement. I bet with the money spent to buy the nismo i can make my base run circles around it.

Lug 06-21-2009 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 95293)
i'd rather pick up a regular sport @ invoice and start tuning the car myself. Bumper is an easy replacement. I bet with the money spent to buy the nismo i can make my base run circles around it.

That would go for almost any sport vehicle ever made. :D

k20z3 06-21-2009 12:47 AM

Well said tbones

Greg 06-21-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 95293)
i'd rather pick up a regular sport @ invoice and start tuning the car myself. Bumper is an easy replacement. I bet with the money spent to buy the nismo i can make my base run circles around it.

To be fair one could also buy a Nismo at invoice spend the same amount for mods and that base car would be back where it started..:icon17:

Point is, it's not all about what's faster etc.. It's not about 'just as good or better'.. It's about having the Genuine article..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 96115)
That would go for almost any sport vehicle ever made. :D

+1

It's the #1 retort used by base owners from Honda to Ferrari and everything in between. ;)

need4speed 07-23-2009 11:34 AM

This is a 2 for 2 review. Car and driver had said the only thing they could find an advantage on the nismo
Is .01g more grip. N they gave that to the tires n nothing more.
Also they said the nismo was marginally more taught on the track but had a harsher ride.
Finding it too uncomfortable for such minor performance increases.
Seems like this NISMO IS A WASTE OF CASH. Unless u really feel that bodykit n tires are worh
An extra 5g's over the sport package?
IMHO I think money is better spent on doing ur own mods.

bboypuertoroc 07-23-2009 12:13 PM

I don't think they drove the car to it's full potential.

theDreamer 07-23-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by need4speed (Post 122691)
This is a 2 for 2 review. Car and driver had said the only thing they could find an advantage on the nismo
Is .01g more grip. N they gave that to the tires n nothing more.
Also they said the nismo was marginally more taught on the track but had a harsher ride.
Finding it too uncomfortable for such minor performance increases.
Seems like this NISMO IS A WASTE OF CASH. Unless u really feel that bodykit n tires are worh
An extra 5g's over the sport package?
IMHO I think money is better spent on doing ur own mods.

Are you just here to spread sh1t or do you actually think before you post?
Sorry for the direct approach, but most of your post on this forum have been horrible, either wrong information, blatant trolling, or all of the above.

need4speed 07-23-2009 12:16 PM

I just read that article n realized. Its edmunds.com.
Tho I jus said the the reviews r 2 for 2 with C&D, I wouldn't
Hold any of there high performance reviews to any regard.
They always have performance stats that are contra the major
7 car mags.
And they are chronically biased toward muscle cars. They don't seem
To understand or have the skill for japanese performance.
Case in point. Edmunds got:
0-60 5.2 and 5.3
Almost every major mag has pulled 4.7 to 5.1 wit avg. 4.9 on the stick
On the automatic they have pulled 4.6 to 4.9 wit avg 4.7 sec on most mags.
The quarter mile has consistant avgs. Of 13.1 to 13.3.
Edmunds gets 13.5 n 13.6 in there tests.
Lateral grip. The biggest diffency of accurate consistancy.
All major mags hav seen .97g to .99g on sport pkg.
Nismo has seen .99 to 1.01
How the hell does edmunds get .94g? Who's driving? The editors Great
Grandma? When ur that far off its hard to take there articles too seriously.

need4speed 07-23-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 122728)
Are you just here to spread sh1t or do you actually think before you post?
Sorry for the direct approach, but most of your post on this forum have been horrible, either wrong information, blatant trolling, or all of the above.

Dude 1st off. I read the article. N they did not show any great improvement except fot slight margin in track handling n grip. $34,900 vs 39,800 in my opinion is a big jump for just marginal performance that can be gained in mods for about 2grand less. I'm not trolling n its not misinformation. So its the same 4 all the time instigatin fights on here.
Dreamer, nurburgring, 370z purist n robert nash. Always talkin stuff thinkin u kno something others don't. Its gettin boring.

xfrgtr 07-23-2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 122728)
Are you just here to spread sh1t or do you actually think before you post?
Sorry for the direct approach, but most of your post on this forum have been horrible, either wrong information, blatant trolling, or all of the above.

:iagree:

nightfire 07-23-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 122728)
Are you just here to spread sh1t or do you actually think before you post?
Sorry for the direct approach, but most of your post on this forum have been horrible, either wrong information, blatant trolling, or all of the above.

+1 and learn how to type

370zright 07-23-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman1910 (Post 94241)

Road and track got 0 to 60 in 5.0.....they were expecting 4.5....

Dunno what happen...the nismo is supposed to be lighter and with more power..

:lol I was thinking about getting the auto anyway...this test just justifies it more....

Though I still have an eye on a Nissan GTR..which is also a auto....

bboypuertoroc 07-23-2009 01:53 PM

Anybody ever heard of the term 'driver error'?

oo7mech 12-12-2009 08:38 AM

370 Touring Vs 370 Nismo Comparo w/ Video?
 
Can someone help a noob? I can't find this video that compares the cars. I've looked up and down all the threads and I didn't see it.

SmoothZ 12-12-2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oo7mech (Post 318937)
Can someone help a noob? I can't find this video that compares the cars. I've looked up and down all the threads and I didn't see it.

The video is just above the comments posted at the bottom and just after the 370Z Touring specs.



So the prices are relatively the same. Looks like the Touring is a better bang for the buck?

Auston 01-02-2010 11:28 PM

Just a note, the edmunds review referenced documents a 370Z Touring with Sport Package
(as opposed to a 370Z Touring without the SP). This is evident by the specs. for the tires and wheels.

jubei 03-18-2011 08:47 PM

Was the Nismo even broken in yet? Seen a few on youtube accelerate faster than that. I don't trust Edmunds anyway, seem like a bunch of stuffy old men scared by a body kit and whining about a stiff ride. Good pics though of two f'ing sick cars though. Also funny that their touring model was 1k more expensive than the Nismo!!!


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