Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 778442)

Well I was going to post some pics of my own but after seeing these I am too embarrassed!! Great shots!! I went out shooting the other day but the foliage has passed and so got basically the car but nothing around it to create the surrounding atmosphere. :ugh2:

Regarding a comment about noise..you said




I could be wrong but as far as I know you would have to use JPEG compression at some point to send the files over the net and I dont think any website would care to host any other kind of files other than JPEGs and so that would cancel any advantage you might have had originally shooting in RAW. Maybe the webmaster here could enlighten us on this?

However, its easy to get rid of most JPEG compression noise with a number of programs including Noise Ninja. But I bet 99 out of 100 viewers would not notice it.
Again, great work! Maybe these will be on the cover of the next Nissan brochure!

Originally Posted by memorylasts (Post 778445)

Im finally back behind a decent monitor, the composition is great i like it, what i was looking at yesterday was what appeared to be a high ISO, unfortunately it was, as you said live and learn. I tend to keep my ISO down at 100 for 90% of my work just to avoid noise/grain, I change it if i want to find a different effect.

Also the higher the ISO i am shooting the more likely i want to shoot in raw, more room for correction if there is a little.

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 778743)

Well that'd be one step into jpeg rather than being taken as a jpeg, saved as a jpeg, and posted and compressed again as a jpeg. The fewer steps of compression, the better. Yeah it'd be cool to be in a magazine, but there are far better photographers an pictures than mine!


Yeah if I could go back in time, I'd set the iso to 100 instead of auto. I got the camera and the excitement to get out and shoot sorta blinded me!

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 779038)

Well your "three" compression steps are really one. Taking and saving are one process and posting does not require further compression if it was done correctly the first time.

I would much tend to believe the problem was caused by your use of high iso which is not JPEG compression but internal camera noise amplified. Using high ISO also decreases dynamic range..

My personal feeling is that shooting in RAW is a needless waste of time UNLESS you are shooting in conditions which might require extensive corrections due to camera meter error. In that case you can use RAW or bracket your exposures. I certainly dont like all the extra fiddling around with the RAW adjustments and I challenge any one to tell me they can tell the difference between a properly exposed JPEG and a RAW file on any computer monitor. I use a NIkon D 90

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 779057)

BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 780838)

Thanks but I really did not want to chat about photography ,,,just wanted to complement you on your excellent photos and tell you that IMO you should not be kicking yourself for using JPEG and not RAW as I dont think that would make a bit of difference.

Meanwhile I posted a few pics of my own.. just quick grab shots with a bit of editing because everyone had been after me to post some pics...

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 779057)

BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.