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jamesj1996 06-13-2014 07:55 AM

oil change and others 20k
 
ok guys so im a proud new owner of a 09 370z. i picked her up yesterday and i love it. just few questions how do i check when my next oil change should be? i know at 30k its oil filter trans fluid coolant and a few other things but im 200 miles away front 20k...i bought the car with 19802 on it...so when should i get my oil changed. i use to have a bmw that told me everything

SouthArk370Z 06-13-2014 08:03 AM

There is a reminder that shows up on the multi-display (where outside temp, MPG, &c are displayed) and can be set from the same panel. Owner's Manual has more info. Download the manual (and FSM if you plan on doing any work on your Z) if you didn't get one.

Unless I know for sure that PO changed them recently, I replace the engine oil/filter on any used car that I buy. I had all the fluids changed in my '09 at ~23k miles but I tend to be overly cautious about such things.

Shawberger 06-13-2014 02:42 PM

I would have it changed at @20K if you do not know when the previous owner has the last oil change. Also unless they kept a record you do not know what type of oil they used (for all you know they threw in some cheap gas station oil)

Depending on your driving style and what type of oil you plan on using I would change every 3-5K miles. I would also recommend checking your oil every 1K to make sure you are not burning any oil.

I run Redline 5-30 and change every 5K

Congrats on the Z!

kenchan 06-13-2014 03:16 PM

yah just change the oil and filter. also remove the steering lock fuse or cut brown wire. check DIY.

latter is wat you should be more concerned about.

chii370 06-15-2014 11:57 AM

so has anyone tried that new Pennzoil natural gas full synthetic yet? I use royal purple..... but have been itching to try this out if I could ever find a place that carries more than 3 quarts of 5W 30.

SouthArk370Z 06-15-2014 02:59 PM

As far as I can tell (but I'm no expert), "natural gas full synthetic" is marketing hype. It's the same basic synthetic oil, just using a different feedstock to make it - no different than any other full-syn lube except for maybe the additives. Ie, probably a good synthetic oil but not any better than what is already available. YMMV

MacCool 06-15-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2857414)
Unless I know for sure that PO changed them recently, I replace the engine oil/filter on any used car that I buy. I had all the fluids changed in my '09 at ~23k miles but I tend to be overly cautious about such things.

I don't disagree that it's probably prudent to change fluids on a used car. Might even consider sending the old fluids off to Blackstone Labs or similar to get an analysis done. Might give a little insight into how the engine and driveline has been wearing in the hands of the previous owner and give you the opportunity to correct little problems before they become big problems.

SouthArk370Z 06-15-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2860280)
.... Might even consider sending the old fluids off to Blackstone Labs or similar to get an analysis done. Might give a little insight into how the engine and driveline has been wearing in the hands of the previous owner and give you the opportunity to correct little problems before they become big problems.

I've never had a UOA done; I just do frequent changes. But it does sound like an excellent idea if it can be done before you sign on the dotted line. I'm in the market for another car but not sure if getting a UOA would be practical. How much oil is required for a sample and how long does it take to get results? If the seller changed oil/filter the day before I get a sample, will there still be enough "junk" left to show up on the test?

MacCool 06-15-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2860301)
I've never had a UOA done; I just do frequent changes. But it does sound like an excellent idea if it can be done before you sign on the dotted line. I'm in the market for another car but not sure if getting a UOA would be practical. How much oil is required for a sample and how long does it take to get results? If the seller changed oil/filter the day before I get a sample, will there still be enough "junk" left to show up on the test?

An oil analysis takes anywhere from 7-14 days, usually closer to the 7 day mark. A brand-new oil change wouldn't give an accurate picture - IMHO you'd want about 3000 miles on the engine oil. Be careful about overinterpreting the results. Some of the stuff, like wear metals, combustion byproducts, and fuel or coolant contamination, is going to be more useful than the other information. A single report doesn't tell the whole engine story but will tell parts of it and might tell more about the oil being used than the condition of the engine. OTOH, it only costs $25.

The biggest value of UOA is for fleet owners. Might help the determine reasonable drain intervals and save money on oil changes on lots of vehicles.

SouthArk370Z 06-15-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2860383)
An oil analysis ...

Thanks for the great answer. :tiphat:

Akurei 06-17-2014 05:39 PM

Just check your dipstick, if it's gold, purple, or whatever color they use, you are good. If it's brown, you need to change it, if it's black, you need to change it. And by brown, I mean Brown. If the oil looks milky, you have some problems. :ugh:

MightyBobo 06-18-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2858237)
yah just change the oil and filter. also remove the steering lock fuse or cut brown wire. check DIY.

latter is wat you should be more concerned about.

Steering Lock Fuse was already removed when I sold it. I told the purchaser that. Purchaser seems to have been a douche who flipped the car to the new owner, sadly.

Either way, he should be GTG there.

jcasti07 04-01-2015 10:45 AM

I religiously change my oil every 3k miles, but as of recently, the Z has been garaged more and driven mostly on weekends. I'm still about 700 miles til my next change, but it has been a few months. Should I change the oil early? Or if I check the oil what is it that I'm looking for? Too dark-change now? Mileage is 23,3xx Thanks guys

kenchan 04-01-2015 10:58 AM

i change my oil once a year. probably put about 3-4k miles a year.

MightyBobo 04-01-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jcasti07 (Post 3156315)
I religiously change my oil every 3k miles, but as of recently, the Z has been garaged more and driven mostly on weekends. I'm still about 700 miles til my next change, but it has been a few months. Should I change the oil early? Or if I check the oil what is it that I'm looking for? Too dark-change now? Mileage is 23,3xx Thanks guys

You should be changing it either on a time or mile basis, whichever comes first.

I don't remember the Z's mileage interval, but 6 months is considered the longest you'd want to go....

kenchan 04-01-2015 02:13 PM

they say 6months or 3750 miles or something.


but when you're only driving your car 6-7months out of the year... lol

BehindSpace 04-02-2015 11:18 AM

oil does not know time and there is no need to change a synthetic oil before 10000 miles as long youre not doing short trips that dont bring it up to hot temperature

ssmoked 04-02-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3157512)
oil does not know time and there is no need to change a synthetic oil before 10000 miles as long youre not doing short trips that dont bring it up to hot temperature

I run full synthetic Mobil 1 and after 5000 miles the color is pretty dark brown. To play it safe, I would change every 5k if I were you

I do drive hard daily though

nis350 04-02-2015 07:40 PM

The darker color of the oil indicates that its detergent is doing its job and it is not an indication of its effectiveness.

There are quite a few performance cars use M-1 full sync as factory fill and the oci is more than 10k miles.

However, it doesn't hurt anything if change at 5k miles.

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3157820)
I run full synthetic Mobil 1 and after 5000 miles the color is pretty dark brown. To play it safe, I would change every 5k if I were you

I do drive hard daily though


AK370Z 04-02-2015 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2858237)
yah just change the oil and filter. also remove the steering lock fuse or cut brown wire. check DIY.

latter is wat you should be more concerned about.

or just take to dealer and get it done for FREE? isn't there a TSB for the steering lock for the Z?

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...-lock-fix.html


PS: Hi Ken :hello:

Davey 04-03-2015 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3157512)
oil does not know time and there is no need to change a synthetic oil before 10000 miles as long youre not doing short trips that dont bring it up to hot temperature

I tend to agree with this, at least the time part. I dunno about 10K on synthetic, but I'd certainly do 5K if I were not driving the car hard... 10K would be like 3 - 4 years for me. :icon17:

Anyway, I put my car up around November right after an oil change, and in 6 months it's May and I have put like 1,000 miles on the car. Is my oil "used"? Not really. I change it anyway, because that's how Nissan says the car must be maintained, but if there were no warranty constraints I certainly would not.

MightyBobo 04-03-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3158010)
The darker color of the oil indicates that its detergent is doing its job and it is not an indication of its effectiveness.

There are quite a few performance cars use M-1 full sync as factory fill and the oci is more than 10k miles.

However, it doesn't hurt anything if change at 5k miles.

^^^^ This guy.

The myth of discolored oil being a BAD thing is still strong. Oil is a lubricant and also a cleaner - it's SUPPOSED to look dirty.

kenchan 04-03-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 3158093)
or just take to dealer and get it done for FREE? isn't there a TSB for the steering lock for the Z?

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...-lock-fix.html


PS: Hi Ken :hello:

hey there AK :hello:

JARblue 04-03-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3157512)
oil does not know time and there is no need to change a synthetic oil before 10000 miles as long youre not doing short trips that dont bring it up to hot temperature

Have fun when you need an engine block replacement under warranty and the dealer denies coverage because you went over the recommended oci. You wouldn't be the first one that's happened to :ugh:

kenchan 04-03-2015 12:50 PM

Yah just follow the manufacturer's recommendations.

I know some cars do have like a 10k+ miles interval.

JARblue 04-03-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3158640)
Yah just follow the manufacturer's recommendations.

I know some cars do have like a 10k+ miles interval.

My mom's Mercury Milan hybrid has a 12K mile dealer recommended oci. And she still misses it :facepalm:

jwick 04-03-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3158652)
My mom's Mercury Milan hybrid has a 12K mile dealer recommended oci. And she still misses it :facepalm:

Women and car maintenance http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...illy_nilly.gif

gbrettin 04-03-2015 02:38 PM

Just throwing this out there, brake fluid should be changed every three years.

nis350 04-03-2015 03:33 PM

Yes!!!! Don't give Nissan any excuses to deny the warranty claims. Those pathetic stealers would probably deny warranty work on the A/C due to oci.

Porsche and BMW all have OCI beyond 10k miles. My M3 was like 15k miles, but most owners do it half that at around 8k.

I still don't see the logics behind Nissan's oci recommendation of less than 4k miles (or even 7.5k) as they have improved the V6 motor quite a bit over the years, other than $$$ from the services.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3158640)
Yah just follow the manufacturer's recommendations.

I know some cars do have like a 10k+ miles interval.


JARblue 04-03-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3158789)
Just throwing this out there, brake fluid should be changed every three years.

Some brake fluid is rated for three years. But many performance brake fluids are not designed to last that long. I try not to go more than a year. A $70 power bleeder one time cost and $40 or so for Motul RBF600 each flush just isn't enough for me to worry about trying to maximize the life of my brake fluid.

That is just my thoughts on the Z. Most mass produced sedans are now using OEM brake fluid that is designed for 2-3 year change intervals. My wife drives an Acura with a three year lease, and I don't have screw with anything except tire inflation and oil changes.

cigarclifford 04-03-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3157820)
I run full synthetic Mobil 1 and after 5000 miles the color is pretty dark brown. To play it safe, I would change every 5k if I were you

I do drive hard daily though

every 3000 miles and when changed, lol its always driven hard :driving:

-Clifford

jwick 04-03-2015 10:38 PM

3000 for me too but I'm boosted

cigarclifford 04-03-2015 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3159155)
3000 for me too but I'm boosted


brother Jwick boosted doe's the body good......:iagree:


Wishing you well :tup:

-Clifford

jwick 04-03-2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 3159160)
brother Jwick boosted doe's the body good......:iagree:





Wishing you well :tup:



-Clifford


:tiphat:

benji 04-06-2015 12:12 PM

i do every 3k with synthetic. i run the living piss out of mine. still looks purplish when i drain (royal purple being used)


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