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If you think mods are more important than driver skill, that may explain why you had so many wrecks on your bikes.

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Old 01-18-2015, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If you think mods are more important than driver skill, that may explain why you had so many wrecks on your bikes.
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If you think mods are more important than driver skill, that may explain why you had so many wrecks on your bikes.
I don't think he ever said mods were more Important than skill. Reread his post and understand what he's saying before you attack him with ignorant comments. Guys looking for advice,not criticism. Don't be an azzhat and contribute.
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I don't think he ever said mods were more Important than skill. Reread his post and understand what he's saying before you attack him with ignorant comments. Guys looking for advice,not criticism. Don't be an azzhat and contribute.
Hi I'm new to racing cars on track (but not motorcycles, which are almost an entirely different game). What mods should I get to be fastest when I go out for my first time? I'm asking for advice, so please don't tell me the hard truth that I should take my money and spend it on driver mod versus suspension and other crap.

I'm glad he knows that suspension and whatnot is very important, but just look at the shopping list given just a couple posts back? This is what happens on this forum...
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If you think mods are more important than driver skill, that may explain why you had so many wrecks on your bikes.
Obviously you never tracked a motorcycle. With cars, pushing it to the limit, you'll have a spin out, and hopefully you don't hit anything. On 2 wheels, pushing to the limit, and losing traction can mean highside/lowside. All of my high side came late in the day, when my focus wasn't as good, and the track temperature was up, and the grip was low. If you never lost traction, that means you never pushed it to the limit. Why are you busting my balls anyway? You don't know me, and they say if you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Your comment doesn't help any bit, and is not necessary.
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Obviously you never tracked a motorcycle. With cars, pushing it to the limit, you'll have a spin out, and hopefully you don't hit anything. On 2 wheels, pushing to the limit, and losing traction can mean highside/lowside. All of my high side came late in the day, when my focus wasn't as good, and the track temperature was up, and the grip was low. If you never lost traction, that means you never pushed it to the limit. Why are you busting my balls anyway? You don't know me, and they say if you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Your comment doesn't help any bit, and is not necessary.
No, I have not tracked motorcycles. I do ride a motorcycle, however, so I know what you are talking about. And yes, I know that when you are pushing, loss of traction is inevitable - ask me how I know. But you didn't exactly elaborate on your wrecks (which was clearly plural), so for all we knew, they were completely driver error (I suppose ANY complete loss of traction is rider error though, really...).

And I'm giving you a hard time because I give everyone a hard time. Don't take it personally :-p. I'm impressed that you tracked your bike, I have no urge to track mine.
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no, i have not tracked motorcycles. I do ride a motorcycle, however, so i know what you are talking about. And yes, i know that when you are pushing, loss of traction is inevitable - ask me how i know. But you didn't exactly elaborate on your wrecks (which was clearly plural), so for all we knew, they were completely driver error (i suppose any complete loss of traction is rider error though, really...).

And i'm giving you a hard time because i give everyone a hard time. Don't take it personally :-p. I'm impressed that you tracked your bike, i have no urge to track mine.
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No problem. I was above average, usually rode with the Expert group (my track days were split into expert, intermediate & beginner).
Of course all of the wrecks are because of the driver errors. Everyone makes errors when they're pushing. Like I mentioned, if you're not wrecking, you're not pushing. And since I have a career, I couldn't afford to keep pushing. If I was getting paid to do it, it'd be a different story :-)
Though the 4 wheel track days and motorcycle track days are completely different animals, at least I understand the concept of the lines & apex, and I'm hoping it helps.
I wanted to ride way too fast for the streets, so I had to ride on the track, but it may have ruined me. I rode motorcycles all my life, and hung it all up 2 years ago.
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