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Old 01-13-2015, 02:56 PM   #61 (permalink)
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2017 looks to be the year of the Z/GTR refresh, the GTR is still doing ok but the Z is starting ti get to stretched.
My concern for the front is Nissan may go with something like this as this look is going across their platform right now.
I figured it would be a 17 change but I wanted to be optimistic (excited more or less)

but then again it happened when the current gen came out. infiniti G37 came out then the Z debuted after.
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i'm interested in the price tag.
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i'm interested in the price tag.
well my 09 sticker was 44k with everything except light up kick plates.

add in bigger engine
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subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market?

i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more

anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles.
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well my 09 sticker was 44k with everything except light up kick plates.

add in bigger engine
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subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market?

i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more

anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles.
yea i'd say 35-45 is doable... like you said anything over that would be pushing it and in my opinion not worth it.

the sticker price on my 13 was 29,500
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well my 09 sticker was 44k with everything except light up kick plates.

add in bigger engine
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subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market?

i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more

anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles.
It all depends on how they plan to do the Z.
If they go 2 motor (4 banger T/NA & V6TT) I could see a 25k starting price for the low end Z to get people in, then for the TT you jump up to 35k and performance (Nismo) 40-45k starting price and all staying under 50k. Anything over that you are approaching GTR and pushing the Z out of its class and we don't want another 300zx again.
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yea i'd say 35-45 is doable... like you said anything over that would be pushing it and in my opinion not worth it.

the sticker price on my 13 was 29,500
yea your 13 can suck my balls. lost 4k off my value due to the price drop lol

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It all depends on how they plan to do the Z.
If they go 2 motor (4 banger T/NA & V6TT) I could see a 25k starting price for the low end Z to get people in, then for the TT you jump up to 35k and performance (Nismo) 40-45k starting price and all staying under 50k. Anything over that you are approaching GTR and pushing the Z out of its class and we don't want another 300zx again.
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not a chance I would even consider the 4 banger. 400+HP TT V6 though.....take my money NOW lol factory boost that can probably get aftermarket bump to 600HP no problem.
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not a chance I would even consider the 4 banger. 400+HP TT V6 though.....take my money NOW lol factory boost that can probably get aftermarket bump to 600HP no problem.
do you think it would be easy to achieve the 600
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do you think it would be easy to achieve the 600
Considering we have guys right now who slap on a TT kit and hit 550-600whp with e85, I can see the new engine doing the same but it will be costly. New Z probably under 5k for basic upgrades (exhaust/intercooler/piping/etc) will get you 500 but after that will be bigger turbos, fuel pump, etc. which are the expensive items.
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do you think it would be easy to achieve the 600

look at the GT-R (yes higher end car but boosted V6 for comparison):

stock 545BHP. my friend did just bolt-on's +tune and he gained around 120whp I believe. i'll try and find his dyno sheets.

I know now with a built bottom end and tranny upgrade he had it tuned at 22psi and was at 780whp/735wtq. thennnnn they did more.

750whp on 93 octane last I checked and 900whp on e85 and upping the boost...



soooo yea let's hope another stock boosted Nissan? engine does the same for the Z as the GT-R
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Which Mercedes engine have they been showing off in the q60?
In any other production cars today?
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Considering we have guys right now who slap on a TT kit and hit 550-600whp with e85, I can see the new engine doing the same but it will be costly. New Z probably under 5k for basic upgrades (exhaust/intercooler/piping/etc) will get you 500 but after that will be bigger turbos, fuel pump, etc. which are the expensive items.
seems that's what you almost spend now for bolt on mods lol

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look at the GT-R (yes higher end car but boosted V6 for comparison):

stock 545BHP. my friend did just bolt-on's +tune and he gained around 120whp I believe. i'll try and find his dyno sheets.

I know now with a built bottom end and tranny upgrade he had it tuned at 22psi and was at 780whp/735wtq. thennnnn they did more.

750whp on 93 octane last I checked and 900whp on e85 and upping the boost...



soooo yea let's hope another stock boosted Nissan? engine does the same for the Z as the GT-R
damn that would be pretty sick... i know it won't be anywhere close to those numbers, but still just the thought get you excited lol
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seems that's what you almost spend now for bolt on mods lol


damn that would be pretty sick... i know it won't be anywhere close to those numbers, but still just the thought get you excited lol
The difference will be more power from 'bolt ons' since the motor has a TT kit on it already.
So where we spend 5k now for 30whp you can spend the same amount and get 100whp. Just because it has a TT kit does not mean it will be cheaper, I imagine the prices will actually go up for the v6TT parts. The majority of people will buy the lower end engine as it will be cheaper to buy into so 70% of parts will be made for it.
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In any other production cars today?
based on early speculation of them sourcing the merc cla amg TT V6 and also a 4 banger from them as well could be true now that a 3.0L TT V6 (same as speculated) popped up in the Q60.

without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours.
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based on early speculation of them sourcing the merc cla amg TT V6 and also a 4 banger from them as well could be true now that a 3.0L TT V6 (same as speculated) popped up in the Q60.

without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours.
All I have read is the motor used in the q60 concept is the same as the one in the q80 minus the hybrid stuff.
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The difference will be more power from 'bolt ons' since the motor has a TT kit on it already.
So where we spend 5k now for 30whp you can spend the same amount and get 100whp. Just because it has a TT kit does not mean it will be cheaper, I imagine the prices will actually go up for the v6TT parts. The majority of people will buy the lower end engine as it will be cheaper to buy into so 70% of parts will be made for it.
yea i can see that happening if they do roll out the two different engine choices.
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based on early speculation of them sourcing the merc cla amg TT V6 and also a 4 banger from them as well could be true now that a 3.0L TT V6 (same as speculated) popped up in the Q60.

without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours.
i believe they out sourced it, but that's just my guess.
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