Thoughts on a base C6

GingaBreadMan · 10-09-2009, 03:37 PM

Get the Vette

kenchan · 10-09-2009, 04:07 PM

Mike knows his Z's and C's.

nice collection.

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Sorry but if you are going troll at least make correct statements..... hard track driving - yes it will overheat. Spiritied driving - no. Oh and don't forget to mention that this is a protection factor that Chevy, etc doesn't build into their vehicles to prevent them from causing damage from overheating or the fact that for $400 or less you can install an oil cooler and drive it hard all day on the race track......

"Sorry" right back at ya, slick. If you're gonna accuse somebody of being a troll, get your facts straight before you do it. Most any idiot could see the sarcasm behind the statement, so back off.

I've seen the posts on this forum from people who have taken their cars out on "spirited drives" and have seen the oil temperatures tickle 250-260 degrees. Don't feed me bs and tell me it's chocolate ice-cream.

BTW, Chevy didn't need to build in a "fail-safe factor." Their car doesn't have overheating issues.

Have a nice day.

frost · 10-09-2009, 04:30 PM

Hey, why don't we all calm down. A message board is nothing to get amped up about. Let's all stare at this cute baby ... porcupine?

Jester · 10-09-2009, 04:36 PM

Just to be clear, I have not yet driven a 370z....that said, I can say this:

I have driven a 350z touring, and an 07 vette with z51 package. Both of which belonged to a friend of mine. He traded the 350 for the vette, but loved the 350. Never had one mechanical issue with either of them, and he still owns the vette. So saying the vette is unreliable simply because it's made by GM is not an accurate statement in my opinion. His has the LS2 and is crazy fast with good handling, and besides the z06 and zr1, always the best bang for the buck. Personally I think the interior could be a little nicer, but it suits me just fine for I tend to enjoy simplicity. Plus, you seem to forget about what the car looks like inside once you push the ignition button and put the pedal to the floor.

The 350z was very similar to the vette...lower quality interior coupled with performance and reliability. He ended up modding it out (about $12,000 to be exact), and the car sick. Never had one issue with it. From what I've read, and I've done a lot of reading, the 370z is better than the 350 in nearly all aspects; and I love the interior. With some of the mods that I've seen on these cars they sound amazing, and are very quick. I can't wait to drive one!

Honestly, when it comes time for me to buy a new car, it will come down to one of these two. Also, from my experience, parts and maintenance is pricey for both of these cars, as it is in most high quality performance vehicles. That said, if you like the vette but can afford a few extra thousand...get a used z06. You can get one with low miles for around 45 grand, and blow both of those cars out of the water. In my humble opinion, this is a supercar at a bargain price. If not, you really can't go wrong with a base vette or 370z in terms of performance and reliability. Drive both, and base your decision on that. Oh and, don't forget about the z06, another great 'z' car

fncrow · 10-09-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Hey, why don't we all calm down. A message board is nothing to get amped up about. Let's all stare at this cute baby ... porcupine?

Thats a hedgehog

frost · 10-09-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fncrow

Thats a hedgehog

10-4. The hedgehog would like people to stop arguing about opinions

MightyBobo · 10-09-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac

Sorry but if you are going troll at least make correct statements..... hard track driving - yes it will overheat. Spiritied driving - no. Oh and don't forget to mention that this is a protection factor that Chevy, etc doesn't build into their vehicles to prevent them from causing damage from overheating or the fact that for $400 or less you can install an oil cooler and drive it hard all day on the race track......

Wait what? The overheating thing is for protection?

No, limp mode is for protection, and as far as I know the Vette has an oil temp sensor...not that it needs one though, its track-able right away...

G37Sam · 10-09-2009, 05:07 PM

When did someone buy a vette for it's interior lol Throw some bolt ons on that LS1 engine and enjoy wetting your pants all the way home, I don't think I'd even notice the interior driving a vette.

From what I hear though, the vette will get a new look pretty soon. Imagine buying the vette now when a new one launches in like a year, that sure would hurt.

Just my 2 fils

frost · 10-09-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam

When did someone buy a vette for it's interior lol Throw some bolt ons on that LS1 engine and enjoy wetting your pants all the way home, I don't think I'd even notice the interior driving a vette.

From what I hear though, the vette will get a new look pretty soon. Imagine buying the vette now when a new one launches in like a year, that sure would hurt.

Just my 2 fils

My interior comments are due to the fact I refuse to keep a garage queen. Cars are meant to be driven, so any car I buy, including the vettes I have owned, all need to drive 50+ miles a day for commuting. That being said, when you're spending an hour and a half+ in your car daily, interior comfort gets to be pretty important.

G37Sam · 10-09-2009, 05:21 PM

^ You have a point there Frost.. But IMO interior isn't THAAT bad. I mean you get a screen that shows the two flags in color lol! The Z is a better daily for sure though

frost · 10-09-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

^ You have a point there Frost.. But IMO interior isn't THAAT bad. I mean you get a screen that shows the two flags in color lol! The Z is a better daily for sure though

Not a terrible interior, and nothing to bash on for sure. It was leaps and bounds above my 02 f-bod. I guess I just had to sacrifice speed for creature comforts in the end.
I think I had mentioned that if this wasn't a concern, the vette is a good buy. I understand not everyone cares about that, but did think I would throw it out there in case someone would be in a position to consider it.

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Wait what? The overheating thing is for protection?

No, limp mode is for protection, and as far as I know the Vette has an oil temp sensor...not that it needs one though, its track-able right away...

The little hedgehog made me smile, but I couldn't help but notice that you're the second person to reply to FricFrac's "informative" post and correct him.

Mike · 10-09-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBoy

Chevy did build it in, through proper design. I've tracked with a bunch of guys with Vettes. One thing they DON'T do is overheat at the track and I track in Texas where it is not uncommon to run in 100*F or more in the summer..

And, they actually do have a limp mode also, its just very uncommon for the engine to get to that point. I got into it once or twice but I was running aftermarket forced induction on the racetrack, and the two just don't mix, at least without some serious engineering work. However, at oil temps of about 280ish, it will go into 'reduced engine power' mode.

Modshack · 10-09-2009, 05:59 PM

The interior from 2008 isn't THAT bad.....It's a comfortable (though large) cockpit. Seats are the cheapest leather you can imagine and the wheel is from a Cobalt. All compromises to keep the cost of the rest of the hardware down. It's still a great bang for the buck that can be made to dance nicely. It's a different car than the Z. The customer base is largely anal retentive old guys with few buying the car for it's real overall performance potential, which is a shame really. Many even dial out their camber so their tires don't wear on the way to car shows. It's an image car that has a large and loyal following. That said it just wasn't me.

Interior, not so bad:

And a pretty good dance partner when you have room to roam:

My Audi buddys laughed a lot...

10-09-2009, 03:37 PM	#31 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	Get the Vette __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

10-09-2009, 05:07 PM	#39 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 21	When did someone buy a vette for it's interior lol Throw some bolt ons on that LS1 engine and enjoy wetting your pants all the way home, I don't think I'd even notice the interior driving a vette. From what I hear though, the vette will get a new look pretty soon. Imagine buying the vette now when a new one launches in like a year, that sure would hurt. Just my 2 fils __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

10-09-2009, 05:21 PM	#41 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 21	^ You have a point there Frost.. But IMO interior isn't THAAT bad. I mean you get a screen that shows the two flags in color lol! The Z is a better daily for sure though __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

10-09-2009, 05:59 PM	#45 (permalink)
Modshack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 2,883 Drives: 370Z Sport Rep Power: 976	The interior from 2008 isn't THAT bad.....It's a comfortable (though large) cockpit. Seats are the cheapest leather you can imagine and the wheel is from a Cobalt. All compromises to keep the cost of the rest of the hardware down. It's still a great bang for the buck that can be made to dance nicely. It's a different car than the Z. The customer base is largely anal retentive old guys with few buying the car for it's real overall performance potential, which is a shame really. Many even dial out their camber so their tires don't wear on the way to car shows. It's an image car that has a large and loyal following. That said it just wasn't me. Interior, not so bad: And a pretty good dance partner when you have room to roam: My Audi buddys laughed a lot... __________________ Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S Oil Cooler DIY: Here! Last edited by Modshack; 10-09-2009 at 06:03 PM.

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Jester Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New Braunfels Age: 41 Posts: 15 Drives: 09 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	Just to be clear, I have not yet driven a 370z....that said, I can say this: I have driven a 350z touring, and an 07 vette with z51 package. Both of which belonged to a friend of mine. He traded the 350 for the vette, but loved the 350. Never had one mechanical issue with either of them, and he still owns the vette. So saying the vette is unreliable simply because it's made by GM is not an accurate statement in my opinion. His has the LS2 and is crazy fast with good handling, and besides the z06 and zr1, always the best bang for the buck. Personally I think the interior could be a little nicer, but it suits me just fine for I tend to enjoy simplicity. Plus, you seem to forget about what the car looks like inside once you push the ignition button and put the pedal to the floor. The 350z was very similar to the vette...lower quality interior coupled with performance and reliability. He ended up modding it out (about $12,000 to be exact), and the car sick. Never had one issue with it. From what I've read, and I've done a lot of reading, the 370z is better than the 350 in nearly all aspects; and I love the interior. With some of the mods that I've seen on these cars they sound amazing, and are very quick. I can't wait to drive one! Honestly, when it comes time for me to buy a new car, it will come down to one of these two. Also, from my experience, parts and maintenance is pricey for both of these cars, as it is in most high quality performance vehicles. That said, if you like the vette but can afford a few extra thousand...get a used z06. You can get one with low miles for around 45 grand, and blow both of those cars out of the water. In my humble opinion, this is a supercar at a bargain price. If not, you really can't go wrong with a base vette or 370z in terms of performance and reliability. Drive both, and base your decision on that. Oh and, don't forget about the z06, another great 'z' car