Multiple Engine for Next Z? from Nissan VP

brucelidat · 12-09-2014, 01:43 PM

Only way the Z loses significant weight is to go smaller like a s2k or change to lighterweight materials which could push costs up. Either way, the possibility of a factory turbo'ed 3.0 v6 has me anticipating official release news before deciding on SC or not for the z34.

280z/300zx · 12-09-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

Doesn't the Stingray weigh around 3300 lbs? It's a V8 with 4 seats.

No, the stingray does not have 4 seats. What corvette ever had 4 seats? Yes it's a V8. Engine vs. Engine there is about a 150lbs difference. Keep in mind too that the Vette uses a lot of light weight materials but it's also 53K+ in price as well. Sure, the Z in theory could be made lighter but at what cost to us the buyers.

Nargrakhan · 12-09-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

No, the stingray does not have 4 seats. What corvette ever had 4 seats?

lol... you're right. I have no idea what I was thinking when I posted that 4 seat comment. I'd strike it up to being a long day, but honestly it hasn't been. A moment of personal stupidity.

Rusty · 12-09-2014, 08:07 PM

Here is a spy photo of the next Z. It's power plant is very green. A set of pedals for your feet to pump.

Zerocool · 12-09-2014, 08:44 PM

Would have been cool if they developed a newer version of the twin turbo motor from the z32 to be put in the 370z.

Make it a 330 twin turbo machine... hell even a 300hp twin turbo machine. Doesn't matter, upgrade the turbos and a tune...

carlitos_370z · 12-10-2014, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

lol... you're right. I have no idea what I was thinking when I posted that 4 seat comment. I'd strike it up to being a long day, but honestly it hasn't been. A moment of personal stupidity.

hahahaha!!! i said

a Vette with 4 seats

you make me search on the Chevrolet webpage to confirm that info hahahah!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerocool

Would have been cool if they developed a newer version of the twin turbo motor from the z32 to be put in the 370z.

Make it a 330 twin turbo machine... hell even a 300hp twin turbo machine. Doesn't matter, upgrade the turbos and a tune...

Just my 2 cents...
Why not just make a damn version of our VQ37 but 3.0 TT.... they can use the same GT-R TT setup... we know that our engines are strongest enough to hold 500hp on FI setup with out forged internals... im not saying that the Z have to come with 500hp

but at least 350hp i think it would be great.... I know is the same HP that the 370z Nismo have but hey... is a 3.0 FI... you put some intakes, exhaust, few psi more and a tune... trust me you are going to have some good numbers on your dyno sheet.... My opinion is that Nissan do not have to use and MB engine on the new Z... they have a lot of good engines like the SR20, RB25, RB26... for say some engines that they make... Anyway we are going to wait to see finally what Nissan are going to do with Z platform...

Merv · 12-10-2014, 09:29 AM

^ there are no cai's on a FI motor. But I get what your saying.

carlitos_370z · 12-10-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv

^ there are no cai's on a FI motor. But I get what your saying.

Lool... i know... sorry my bad

i have to say some filters.... i was thinking on my STI when i say Intakes

But anyway thanks for correct me

Jordo! · 12-10-2014, 06:40 PM

I think its odd that some of the renderings are based on the Maxima concept... I don't think the Z will have that terrible grill...

My guess is, very similar lines to current and a front fascia more similar to the latest Nismo. They are unlikely to deviate from the classic sports car coupe profile.

I'm expecting maybe 40-50 kg lighter (thanks mainly to even more aluminium), a turbo 4 option that makes much more torque and slightly less top end (resulting in a Z that is marginally quicker than current) with a N/A V6 option that is probably a re-tooled VQ, making 350+ bhp and at least as much torque as the four banger, for even better performance.

They could offer Nismo options for each that includes better aero/suspension, the snazzy badges, and slightly tweaked power -- just like they do now.

All of that is do-able with stuff from the Nissan parts bin, and it is in keeping with the rumors that are most frequently cited (and also least absurd).

If they are serious about the two engine options, then it will come down to price, which is easier to mod (in theory, the turboed motor, but who knows...), etc.

If they do the T4 vs. V6 option it is worth noting that this recipe didn't work so well for the Gen coupe...

Isn't the Tokyo Auto show in January? They better get the concept ready...

90 ST · 12-10-2014, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

No, the stingray does not have 4 seats. What corvette ever had 4 seats? Yes it's a V8. Engine vs. Engine there is about a 150lbs difference. Keep in mind too that the Vette uses a lot of light weight materials but it's also 53K+ in price as well. Sure, the Z in theory could be made lighter but at what cost to us the buyers.

This one...it had 4 seats lol

carlitos_370z · 12-11-2014, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo!

I think its odd that some of the renderings are based on the Maxima concept... I don't think the Z will have that terrible grill...

My guess is, very similar lines to current and a front fascia more similar to the latest Nismo. They are unlikely to deviate from the classic sports car coupe profile.

I'm expecting maybe 40-50 kg lighter (thanks mainly to even more aluminium), a turbo 4 option that makes much more torque and slightly less top end (resulting in a Z that is marginally quicker than current) with a N/A V6 option that is probably a re-tooled VQ, making 350+ bhp and at least as much torque as the four banger, for even better performance.

They could offer Nismo options for each that includes better aero/suspension, the snazzy badges, and slightly tweaked power -- just like they do now.

All of that is do-able with stuff from the Nissan parts bin, and it is in keeping with the rumors that are most frequently cited (and also least absurd).

If they are serious about the two engine options, then it will come down to price, which is easier to mod (in theory, the turboed motor, but who knows...), etc.

If they do the T4 vs. V6 option it is worth noting that this recipe didn't work so well for the Gen coupe...

Isn't the Tokyo Auto show in January? They better get the concept ready...

Can be more

with you bro!!! they have to stop releasing sh!ty rumors and they have to start to talk with the true... They have to make something that the people want... Im very sure that if Nissan read this thread they are going to know what to do with the next generation of the Z platform... Someone send a link of this thread to Nissan HQ hahaha!! i think we already make the next Z....

Firebase99 · 12-11-2014, 10:09 AM

They already made up their minds by now. Like G37 preceded the the 370, so goes the Q50. V6 hybrid. Watch.

zguynate · 12-11-2014, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z

hahahaha!!! i said

a Vette with 4 seats

you make me search on the Chevrolet webpage to confirm that info hahahah!!

Just my 2 cents...
Why not just make a damn version of our VQ37 but 3.0 TT.... they can use the same GT-R TT setup... we know that our engines are strongest enough to hold 500hp on FI setup with out forged internals... im not saying that the Z have to come with 500hp

but at least 350hp i think it would be great.... I know is the same HP that the 370z Nismo have but hey... is a 3.0 FI... you put some intakes, exhaust, few psi more and a tune... trust me you are going to have some good numbers on your dyno sheet.... My opinion is that Nissan do not have to use and MB engine on the new Z... they have a lot of good engines like the SR20, RB25, RB26... for say some engines that they make... Anyway we are going to wait to see finally what Nissan are going to do with Z platform...

I agree with you but those engines you listed are too old for Nissan to use. With the current emission laws and they are getting even more strict, those motors could never hope to pass. I would really hope for a turbo 3.0. A lot could be done with that provided Nissan doesn't make it out of glass. Its crazy that Nissan is legendary for their turbocharged engines of old, however here we are 20 years later BEGGING them for a new one, and they can't oblige.

Its not THAT big of a deal for me because the odds of me getting the new Z are really slim. Im recently married and 26. Its time for kids and ****

I would have to do an astronomical amount of

kissing to my wife for her to not immediately say "no" when I even say "Z" lol.

carlitos_370z · 12-11-2014, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath

I agree with you but those engines you listed are too old for Nissan to use. With the current emission laws and they are getting even more strict, those motors could never hope to pass. I would really hope for a turbo 3.0. A lot could be done with that provided Nissan doesn't make it out of glass. Its crazy that Nissan is legendary for their turbocharged engines of old, however here we are 20 years later BEGGING them for a new one, and they can't oblige.

Its not THAT big of a deal for me because the odds of me getting the new Z are really slim. Im recently married and 26. Its time for kids and ****

I would have to do an astronomical amount of

kissing to my wife for her to not immediately say "no" when I even say "Z" lol.

The engines that i mention in my post are examples

i forget to say that hahah i know are olds but those engines are proof that Nissan can make a new great engine to the new Z platform

BTW bro im in the same boat.... almost married and i think that are going to happen in the new year 2015

i have to finish my Z asap hahahhahaa!!!

Soo i dont think that a new Z for me its an option hahaa!!! i have to stay with my Z34 for now

njobe89 · 12-11-2014, 12:28 PM

hmm and then people tell you to get married. Hah! yea right

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Zerocool Track Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: N.Y Posts: 548 Drives: '09 370z Rep Power: 15	Would have been cool if they developed a newer version of the twin turbo motor from the z32 to be put in the 370z. Make it a 330 twin turbo machine... hell even a 300hp twin turbo machine. Doesn't matter, upgrade the turbos and a tune... carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ I like pizza

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Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	I think its odd that some of the renderings are based on the Maxima concept... I don't think the Z will have that terrible grill... My guess is, very similar lines to current and a front fascia more similar to the latest Nismo. They are unlikely to deviate from the classic sports car coupe profile. I'm expecting maybe 40-50 kg lighter (thanks mainly to even more aluminium), a turbo 4 option that makes much more torque and slightly less top end (resulting in a Z that is marginally quicker than current) with a N/A V6 option that is probably a re-tooled VQ, making 350+ bhp and at least as much torque as the four banger, for even better performance. They could offer Nismo options for each that includes better aero/suspension, the snazzy badges, and slightly tweaked power -- just like they do now. All of that is do-able with stuff from the Nissan parts bin, and it is in keeping with the rumors that are most frequently cited (and also least absurd). If they are serious about the two engine options, then it will come down to price, which is easier to mod (in theory, the turboed motor, but who knows...), etc. If they do the T4 vs. V6 option it is worth noting that this recipe didn't work so well for the Gen coupe... Isn't the Tokyo Auto show in January? They better get the concept ready... cigarclifford and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 12-10-2014 at 07:24 PM.

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Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	They already made up their minds by now. Like G37 preceded the the 370, so goes the Q50. V6 hybrid. Watch. carlitos_370z likes this.

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njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	hmm and then people tell you to get married. Hah! yea right carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

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