370z rates nearly last on CR's owner satisfaction survey

ZeuceCoupe

I apologize if this is somewhere else on here (it probably is) but I think this is a pretty thought provoking article that more or less summarizes the failure of appreciation for the Z instead of the car itself when read from a driving enthusiast's POV...



Three simple reasons why the Nissan 370Z cannot compete in the US - Torque News

njobe89

i like my Z, it looks good and drives good, but i think it's a little true... the back seat thing, i bought the car cause it was a two seater and i didn't want to drive anyone around. i just agree with the power output. i think they should have upgraded it at least a little bit and not left it the same since 2009. As some mentioned in the comments in that article nissan is hurting themselves with not fixing the common issues with the 370z. the csc being one of the biggest problems now. they should issue a recall and get it fixed. nissan being stingy and not wanting to fix that problem makes me not want to ever buy another nissan vehicle.

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Zephon13

I don't get how they can even say something about the power output of the Z... Yeah there are V8's that will put down more power, but tell me where you can buy a more powerful NA V6 off the lot.

Funny that all of his reasons not to buy a Z are my reasons to buy a Z.

Of course I could have gotten a FRS for "$8,700 less" (which if I even went that route I would have gotten the more premium BRZ with leather + other features) and that would have actually turned out to be only $3000 less than what I got my Z for (I got a quote and almost put a down payment for it). After test driving a Z it was a REALLY tough decision to make there, bro.

Needless to say I ended up driving the Z home that same day :P

Jordo!

Those are fair criticisms. At minimum the Z35 needs to keep the price down and the power up, which I'm pretty sure would be popular things to do...

A recent rumor claims the Z35 will be a 2+2 (I'm happier with 2 fewer seats, but vestigial ones won't bother me), and that is also a logical issue for folks who bought the Z, but then needed to trade it in for something with back seats.

Actually, of all the random articles I've read that talked smack about the Z34, that one seemed the most reasonable. Only the title is a little on the harsh side, but the points made are fair ones.

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UNKNOWN_370

The second this article talked about the Z going
V8. I called garbage on this article...
why don't muscle cars go turbo v6 for better Fuel economy and equal power of the v8? Easy answer... V8 heritage...
So why the FUKK is this writer asking Nissan to leave Japanese heritage of the 6 configuration. Inline, v or turbo 6 are options. V8's in a Z is out

Secondly, the whole appeal of the Z is to be a low slung two seat sport coupe, that's a direct competition to boxster, Cayman, corvette, not mustang.

The Z us a niche car. Yes, 7500 units a year is very low. But 80,000 units should not be the Z goal. 15,000-20,000 units max annually is the proper goal for this type of niche vehicle. So full mustang stats when talking about a Z.

The only issue that's valid is the Z is underpowered for the price. So either bring the Z to a $28,000msrp or add turbos n start it at $34,000.

The FRS/BRZ IS UNDERPOWERED & OVERPRICED as well. So I laugh at there comparo. First n second year sales will always be high due to fanboy purchases. Every year after that is average Joe consumers with a very low percentage of fanboys. The twins should start at $23k n top out at $27k...

The Z is outdated in power... Yes. But at least it didn't enter that way. Remember the stanh wasn't supposed to see the 5.0 till 2013, because the Z was killing mustangs in 09, running with the brand new SS, and beating the challenger r/t in a straight line.
The muscle cars are volume sellers and have more room for flexibility. The made annual changes that made it faster than the Z.
Nissan messed up when, the made stupid DRL n fascia upgrades instead of smoothing out VVEL, increasing gear ratios, SUSPENSION TUNE and loudening up the exhaust. The 2015 NISMO is what the regular Z should have been in 2013 and the NISMO should be 400 HP. But not because it's not as good as a stang. It's because it should have been progressive. But again. Sales were weak. It was a doubled edged sword for the Z.
Hopefully NISSAN will go FI next gen n problem solved.

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Red__Zed

I remember when people said the z should never have a v6.



And the 5.0 was targeted for 2010 and was late...

ZeuceCoupe

Agree entirely with the first point. But the FRS/BRZ is simply a blast to drive and costs about as much (if not a little less) as a fully loaded Hyundai Elantra...

Driving the FRS brings nothing but smiles...as soon as you enter a corner and realize how much you can throw it around, the lack of speed factor is instantly forgotten. Just my personal opinion - I was incredibly skeptical of the vehicle before I plopped into the seat and took off...it just feels right. It does have a wonderful simplicity/purity to it.