Pros and cons, Nismo vs Sports package?

JC-Nismo · 12-01-2014, 09:06 AM

Really? Would love test that theory........

Nargrakhan · 12-01-2014, 09:16 AM

I think track tests and/or number crunching was performed and there's a thread about it somewhere on this site.

My search-fu is currently lacking though.

njobe89 · 12-01-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand and thats worth a lot to me cause one of my last cars was a M3 and my two current cars are a Nismo and SRT8 and as bad as I wanted a Porsche, I can honestly say that I couldn't afford the 991 Turbo and wouldn't feel right driving anything less than a Turbo model and even the 997 was a bit much for me to spend on a used Porsche. No disrespect, just my opinion.

i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

Luciano13 · 12-01-2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand

I don't think this is truly accurate. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you'll buy the highest end model....In the end you still need to also like the top model. The Nismo, as nice of a body kit it has and extra bolt ons, I would never buy one due to the fact I wouldn't want to pay more for it to simply be taken apart....
Cars with factory aggressive full body kits are usually for people that don't want to change cosmetics too much.(IMO)

kenchan · 12-01-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

From what others have told me, the added 18 hp barely offsets the extra weight.

how much you weight?

mishuko · 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

how much you weight?

apparently enough to make the PWR drop...

Duc_Z09 · 12-01-2014, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

Are you sure about that...........18hp more should net something.

I've been told the extra HP comes at the top of the rev band and at the expense of some mid-range. This makes sense to me as I've had this experience with motorcycles (Ducati Testastretta 11-degree vs Superbike valve timings are a good example).

The NISMO is extremely "revvy" for lack of a better word. Unless you're really hammering it, you're never going to notice the extra 18hp and it will probably be slightly slower for more "normal" driving. At 6000 rpm though, hold on tight!

OP: Go with the one you want; they're both fantastic cars. I love the exclusivity, looks, suspension, and wheels/brakes of my NISMO but I'm still jealous of the Touring interior. If you value ride quality/comfort get a base model.

mishuko · 12-01-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I've been told the extra HP comes at the top of the rev band and at the expense of some mid-range. This makes sense to me as I've had this experience with motorcycles (Ducati Testastretta 11-degree vs Superbike valve timings are a good example).

The NISMO is extremely "revvy" for lack of a better word. Unless you're really hammering it, you're never going to notice the extra 18hp and it will probably be slightly slower for more "normal" driving. At 6000 rpm though, hold on tight!

OP: Go with the one you want; they're both fantastic cars. I love the exclusivity, looks, suspension, and wheels/brakes of my NISMO but I'm still jealous of the Touring interior. If you value ride quality/comfort get a base model.

heck... once I rev above 4000rpm it gets fun in my sports touring!

NoLaKrewe · 12-01-2014, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

njobe89 · 12-01-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe

You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

i could find out how many models(yr, color, etc.) were made like mine and badge it myself and have the only base sport pckg with a badge. so can it be priced at 50k?

i do understand what you're saying, but from my opinion i just don't see the 10k price difference. if the engine was different then i'd be able to see it, but as it sits now i don't. again, that's just my opinion.

Nargrakhan · 12-01-2014, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe

You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

Sadly the badge number seems to have been discontinued with NISMO starting with 2015. Confirmed the Z and GT-R no longer do it. Haven't heard about the Juke yet...

NoLaKrewe · 12-01-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

Sadly the badge number seems to have been discontinued with NISMO starting with 2015. Confirmed the Z and GT-R no longer do it. Haven't heard about the Juke yet...

Yeah, that's why I said pre 2015. Between the ugly rims and the debadging I wouldn't buy the new Nismo but the 2014 Nismo in PW or Red make me jizz. The 2013 black Nismo does the same.

Smashley · 12-01-2014, 02:17 PM

I never liked the NISMO Z's until 2015.(looks wise - the new wheels)
Big spoiler

long nose

Only reason I would purchase a NISMO any year for the $ would be if the engine hp was significantly more powerful. The Sports/Touring looks great already.

NISMO GT-R is a perfect example vs the standard GT-R

Montez · 12-01-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

Exactly, you are getting something for the extra money! Good gains/better performance in all performance parameters, not minimal or if any at all as in the case of the Nismo vs base sports package.

Duc_Z09 · 12-01-2014, 04:42 PM

I probably wouldn't pay extra if I were buying new... but since I was looking used, I was happy to pick up a NISMO over a base. I've only seen 2 others and 1 was at a drive-in event a forum member was hosting.

12-01-2014, 02:17 PM	#43 (permalink)
Smashley Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 347 Drives: mt/sport/tour MB Rep Power: 12	I never liked the NISMO Z's until 2015.(looks wise - the new wheels) Big spoiler long nose Only reason I would purchase a NISMO any year for the $ would be if the engine hp was significantly more powerful. The Sports/Touring looks great already. NISMO GT-R is a perfect example vs the standard GT-R Uxi likes this.

12-01-2014, 04:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	I probably wouldn't pay extra if I were buying new... but since I was looking used, I was happy to pick up a NISMO over a base. I've only seen 2 others and 1 was at a drive-in event a forum member was hosting. __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

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JC-Nismo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,244 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 13	Really? Would love test that theory........

12-01-2014, 09:16 AM	#32 (permalink)
Nargrakhan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Nowhere Posts: 176 Drives: Nothing Rep Power: 11	I think track tests and/or number crunching was performed and there's a thread about it somewhere on this site. My search-fu is currently lacking though.