Higher horsepower for the 370Z? The public comments from Nissan so far seem to indicate that there is a good chance they are going in the opposite direction...

optional 4cyl turbo is most likely going to be their way to battle the BRZ/FRS market.

hoping for a higher money option of the 3.0L TT V6 that the Q60 is getting supposedly.

The dots are slowly coming together.

-Nissan exec said 2 motors for the Z
-Need to compete against the FRS better
-Need to meet emission but better performance

Those are all what we have heard about what they new Z could have, and now with the Mercedes engines we might get it all. 4 cylinder turbo for an entry level Z along with a nice v6TT engine for the upper end, while keeping out of the GTR market.

i do hope it plays out how we all think.

if so i may just get the next Z......unless the make it ugly then i'll get the Q60 instead lol same engine and knowing infiniti maybe grab a AWD version for better launches :stirthepot:

I just hope they don's use the same failing csc for the next Z.

CSC?.......

oh yea you MT guys had all the problems. not in the 7AT :tiphat:

Nissan's solution to CSC: Auto tranny only for all future Zs:facepalm:

F U Nizzy!!!

There is nothing better than waking up with a hard stick in my hand every morning. Does a 7AT do that? :rofl2:

2016 370z...
 

Yea but mine is harder. It's doesn't move around as much ;)

Early model year release
 

Interesting GM at Deland Nissan said he's heard potential 'early' model release, as soon as April for '16s, and no significant model change that he can discern thus far...just general scuttlebutt from seemingly sincere principle at local stealership. He also concurred with lower-end Z model likely for '17 with 4-banger for competition in $25k space.

likeeeeeee April of this year? because that would be awesome :excited:

That's what he said, yep, April for initial shipment on '16s -- he thought odd since 'half year' kinda a models usually have something to add, but he didn't think there was anything...

Completely unrelated sidenote, first Ford Mustang was a 1964 1/2, i.e. April release.

sadly the 2016 Z wont be the updated one.

i'm still hoping some info on the next Z comes out soon. it's killing me just running off rumors, speculation, and then add in the V6TT Q60 info as well.

damn you Nissan :shakes head:

I wouldn't expect the next Z any earlier than late 2016 as a '17 model.

50% of still hopes that they don't make it any better then what it is now, so i don't have to buy the new one lol. however, the other 50% wants it to be TT 400+ hp so i can want it.

if its the latter I will most certainly buy a new one. if it stays the same then i'm moving on.

what are you going to be moving onto

Stuck in kind of the same dilema. I am deciding between an M3 or a newer more powerful Z. Sigh!

plan since I bought the Z was GT-R. some life things have come up (i.e. fiance', house, and wedding) that may be placed on a slight hold.

currently if all falls into place then I would love the next gen Z if and of course when it actually happens.

if no Z then that Q60 would be a nice addition. however if the production model doesn't look good and the engine doesn't hook me then i'll move on.

from there it's a tough decision. many ways to go just not sure. aside from the price the M4 has grown on me. but the way I would want it is 84K. for that I can get a Z06 or GT-R at the auction with a few dealer miles or whatnot on them.

at the moment i'd like to stay with Nissan. so Z35, Q60, or GT-R is the next move depending on what happens with the next gens, timing, and my bank account lol

I think the Z is done in 16. High price and poor sales has made its demise.


I do have some small glimmer of hope tho.... :ugh:

Yes... or a secret update from Nissan. 400HP. 35K. 42K for Nismo!!! WINNN!!!!

I've said it before. The 370Z is probably my last car purchase. I'll be happy with what I have.

It is ... enough!

I'm sure Nissan is watching sales numbers. And if they are, a much more powerful Z should be in the works. These are US sales only, worldwide could be a different story.

FRS 2013 Year 18,327 Sold
FRS 2014 Year 14,062 Sold
370Z 2013 Year 6,561 Sold
370Z 2014 Year 7,199 Sold
Corvette 2013 Year 17,291 Sold, C7 introduced in last quarter of this year.
Corvette 2014 Year 34,839 Sold

Notice FRS #'s declined noticeably in year 2014 while the Z increased albeit slightly. FRS was introduced in mid 2012 and it was fresh and different. However the most likely trend of the FRS will be to decrease again in 2015, as power is still important to most sports car buyers.

So if you're a savvy business owner, what market would you want to compete in? One that only had 14K in sales or one that had nearly 35K. Keep in mind, if you compete in the 14K FRS market, your price has to be a lot lower. Profits will be minimalized.

A 2015 C7 now starts at $56K for the base 1LT and goes up from there. Imagine a base Z35 model with decent options, 410 hp DI TT, priced at $46K. Do you think this would cut into the C7 sales? The next question is, can Nissan produce a car for this price and make a decent profit? I believe they can as the dollar to yen ratio now should be helpful as well as their factories are already tooled to create great V6 engines.

So lastly, a shout out to Nissan! If you make the new Z a FRS competitor, I'm out and on to a different brand as I'm sure the majority on this forum will do as well. A C7 competitor at $46K, sign me up!

well said :tiphat:

I agree with the fact of the FRS/BRZ was a cute little newcomer and sales declining isn't a surprise to me.

think of it this way: Nissan has the rumors floating of a smaller engine level Z being possible. little 4 banger turbo. they can make that one to compete with the FRS with a price tag of 28-30k base. the FRS base is 26/27k for mt/at. if you can have a Z which is 100x better looking, feeling, driving, more powerful, etc for just a couple thousand more its a no brainer......unless you have no brain which I feel most FRS/BRZ owners don't. :stirthepot:

then you go and throw the TTV6 in a bigger money version of the Z like you said around 45K. my sticker on my 09 (still have it lol) was 44k. it's not out of the ordinary for it to be that high on a new model with more power. i'll certainly bite on it. throw in the fact that it could be up there power wise to the C7 and I just got a little wood.

:rofl2:

FP, Rumor has it, this new 400+ hp Z might have an auto trans :icon17:

Damn, if they really produce it, I hope a manual trans will still be an option, if not I'll be :confused:

I am sure manual will be an option.

I'm manual and made 331rwhp/268 tq. Stillen G3's, Stillen UD Pulley, Z1 Manifold, FI LTH, and FI non res CBE.

The only thing that leads me to believe it might be auto-only are rumors that it will have a turbo+hybrid powertrain on offer. I have never seen a hybrid with a manual transmission outside of concept form, they always wind up with a funky CVT (99% of hybrids), torque converter (Infiniti Q50) or double clutch (McLaren P1).

I thought the hybrid theories were pretty old. I don't think they'll put something that fancy and expensive in the Z, especially when the GT-R will be a tt v6 + hybrid.

the upkeep on a gtr is just crazy... usually runs like 12k a year

a. I was busting balls to my MT friends who bust mine for having a AT.

b. you have 3 more mods and barely more power then mine....plus less drivetrain power loss than me too. I wouldn't be bragging :tiphat:

better question what's your best 1/4 ET? :stirthepot:

yea that just comes with having a higher end car well supercar really lol

but that figure I feel is skewed since most people who can easily afford GT-R's send them to Nissan for service. that is something I wont do since it's ridiculously over priced. they wanted to charge me 700 for my 30k mile service on my Z. I did it all and cost me no where near that.

What... you don't want to pay $8K for a brake job? :ugh:

yea i guess that' true. i haven't met an average joe that has owned a gtr yet. usually it's people with a lot of money.

a friend of mine works as a finance manager at nissan and they sold a 2015 gtr for 85k. he said some guy that owns something in harrahs casino came and wrote a check for the full price and drove off lol
take my money!!!
but i don't have any to be taken :icon17:

not a chance lol

you can get replacement rotors for 2700. pads for 1000-1200.

3-4k for that if you even need rotors.

hell for nissans price of 8-10k typically for brake changes you can just pay 13k and switch over to a carbon ceramic package.

I could write a check for the full price of a GT-R. It might bounce tho lol

I can get 2015 GT-R's with 3k or less miles for 85k today.

2014 black edition with 5k miles for 80k

2014 with 1100 miles for 80k

the prices are down right now at the auctions.

I can write you a check right now lol

that's still over 100k cad... GRR might as well buy new. lol

if it wont bounce we can talk :stirthepot:

oh there's a 1800HP Alpha 16 on there right now with a buy it now price of 152K. just fyi for anyone. I will add a small commission for myself of course :tiphat:

I thought I made that pretty clear ;)