Agree! That's the last visually appealing BMW to me.

the z4's are kinda nice though...

Until you put it next to a 370z :happydance:

true that.

In regards tot he m4, my friend drove one and told me that the driver feedback was bad and so that ruined the whole car for him.

Word. ATTESA E-TS is freakin' *amazing*

Wouldn't surprise me if that was because of the electric steering.

First I was: :thumbsdown:

Then I was: :shakes head:

Now I'm like: :)

I'm thinking this is an okay move by Nissan. It lets them milk off the new body kit for another year to help offset whatever R&D costs it took to develop it. It also gives them another year to refine the next generation Z and see what else the competition is bringing to the table for 2017.

In addition people who bought the new 2015 will be driving them around, which might lure in a few people who fall in love with the new look and are willing to pay the extra cost for it. Another year lets them sell to those individuals.

Last but not least: another year of production lets Nissan produce more of the body kit components for future sales (i.e. repairs/restoring/conversions/etc). Once the new Z goes on sale, they'll probably stop manufacturing 2015 parts entirely... so maybe they're stockpiling whatever amount they consider reasonable for such support.

But auto is still boring :rolleyes: :driving:

Not at all -- you can control the shifts for plenty of action when you want it :horse:

I test drove a 6MT and 7AT wasn't for me.

can't we all just get along, 6mt or 7at it doesn't matter, but the 6mt is better :P lol

Nuh uh!!

:stirthepot:

amen & hallelujah

c&d are flip floppy, corporate controlled shitbags who can't form a consistent opinion if they tried.

They should just call themselves "bmw/honda cockriders magazine."

being a dumb caring husband that I am, I chose the 7AT with the view of the wifey somtimes driving it. Guess what? She never wants to drive it nor has. And Im left with a 7AT...

However, I am very impressed with the 7AT, Sure it dont thrill me as a stick but good old lazy bones here appears to have almost the best of both worlds. No regrets.

Worth noting I come from a strictyl manual background and this is / was my first "proper" AT car as most my previous were stick.

:rolleyes: :horse:

Wait... does this mean the Bose audio system is standard on a 2016 Nismo base?

From reading the spec sheet, it seems like bose is now the standard not part of the tech package.

wait where is this post of the order sheet info?

deleted?

No its still there, the attached doc. Page 4 toward the middle.

somehow I missed all that.

sadly no new Z this year but that's expected with the new Q60 dropping as a 2016. z34 followed the g37 by a year so it's normal.

2016 370Z ... wow, I was hoping to see a Z35 by then.

So can you confirm what I saw on the spec sheet? Is the bose system system standard for base 2016 nismo?

I think it is then again I wouldn't called a nismo a "base" model lol

more or less nismo and nismo with nav

From everything I have read, the answer to your question is YES.

umm... the bose system is a decent system. good? not really.

works? yea

so... even if this is an 'upgrade' if you have any appreciation to sound you know that you'll want better quality.

just my 2 cents (wait in canada we have to round to nickels now...) my 5 cents.

I actually love the bose in my Z. the nav is from 2009 so that needs an update but i'm not paying $200 for it lol

Understand its just nice to see Nissan address some of the complaints how the current Nismo is too expensive for a model that has been out for a while. I am guessing Nissan is throwing the Bose system and then lowering the price of the 2016 nismo.

Honestly, the Bose system is actually just more of a pain in the a$$ to replace. Almost all OEM audio solutions suck compared to aftermarket HU, speakers, and amp(s).

Agreed. But it's nice "to see Nissan address some of the complaints how the current Nismo is too expensive for a model that has been out for a while. I am guessing Nissan is throwing the Bose system and then lowering the price of the 2016 nismo"

don't get me wrong... i hardly listen to music (the engine is my music) but when i do it's radio and that quality is crap anyways.

i did stream some em pee free's into it and i was content. sure it's no fancy pioneer but still got the job done of delivering sound to ear without any noticeable static or distortion or whatever else can happen

I never had an issue with the sound quality on mine. i love music and crank it often although my engine is a magnificent sound alone.

on the highway i typically got the music on and it sounds great even with the straight pipes doing their thing lol

That new bodykit's not unique to the 370z. NISMO effectively developed a common design language for all NISMO models when they expanded it to cover GT-R, Juke, Sentra, Note, etc. On all of those models, in the NISMO trim it has the same air inlets, red fascia accents and so forth.

All of that added flair actually looks ridiculous on anything less purpose-built than the 370z or GT-R. I don't care how much you tweak the suspension and turbo on a Juke, it's still a Juke unless you do something crazy like the Juke-R (basically a GT-R with a Juke chassis).

LOL...I was lucky. I drove an 06 Mustang GT auto and an 11 5.0 for a total of 9 years. Wife only drove the 11 once in the 9 combined years I had them, even though I encouraged her to drive them (and see the difference between high performance and Ford Escape). With that track record, I had no problems hunting down a 6MT Z straight away! :driving:

Read the last few lines.

Nissan and Infiniti Drop Plans to Build the Q50 Eau Rouge and Others – Insider Car News

"...The latter is particularly true given the recent rumors that the Z may expand to include cheaper and less powerful versions in the future."

Eeeek!!!

So ... why have I not seen any comments on ...

ASE (Active Sound Enhancement) under audio and entertainment up top?

?? ho hum. The only active sound enhancement I want is rolled down windows and straight pipes with headers. Well ok maybe not that far but you know what I mean. Oh well. You think they are just prepping us for the 1.4 liter turbocharged "slightly" less powerfull version?

:stirthepot:

I have straight pipes.....windows down or up it doesn't matter lol

i feel that if the new maxima comes with over 300HP then the Z will be getting a power bump with the bigger engine option to keep them separated.

fuckin Nissan just tell me details on the next Z pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee or i may just go drop 15k on boost and the beefy 7AT

:tup:

Yea what is up with THAT?! :icon14:

Rumors coming out that the Maxima will be at 300HP... the 370z is... Come on now. Bump the 370z HP!!

if all the stars align and the V6TT actually goes into the Q60 then we can pray that the same engine moves into the Z35 as well. that's how it went with the G37 and Z34.