2016 370z...

brucelidat

It needs to fight the m4, not the e92 m3. Nissan better not mess up the steering though. I heard the m4 steering is pretty bad.

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zigzagz94

The new 400hp Q60 is intended to be the M4 fighter that you want. The Z35 needs to be a poor mans Cayman GT4 or a smaller 6cyl Vette.

brucelidat

The z is supposed to be more performance oriented and less luxury than the q60 so if the q60 is a M fighter, the Z should be also. I AM NOT talking about fighting the M in lux, but performance. Being a poor man's Cayman S got NIssan horrible sales. Most poeple shopping for Cayman S's aren't looking at Nissans. Guys looking at Mustang GTs and maybe Vettes might look at a Z so it should be in line with them in terms of performance (which puts it in line with the m4 as well).

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Firebase99

I think it needs to put doubt in the C7, M4, and Cayman S. Forget the GT4. The Z33 re-ignited this all and ran with the E46 M, and was toe to with the Boxster S. Lost a bit of ground with the Cayman S (and the Z34 still does thanks to P cars upgrades where as Nissan left the Z the same). It needs to come CLOSE to these guys. Not in lux, very close in tech AND performance to have a C7 buyer curious about saving $30k.

Magic Bus

Yes, I posted sales numbers earlier between C7, Cayman, Frs & Z. The sales numbers show that the Z should compete in C7 category. I don't think Nissan can do it for $30k less but I get what you're saying.

I believe a TT v6 with over 400hp is very doable for Nissan and could it be called the new VR30 engine?

njobe89

i'm sorry but i wouldn't pay 50k for a 370. i don't think it will sell at that price. they have to keep the cost down to 30-40k for it to sell.

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Firebase99

Id be willing to go close to if not $50K for a coupe with...3400 pounds (loaded), NAV, leather, hands free everything, Onstar-Bluelink equivalent (I can start my Genesis with my iphone-fricking awesome) sunroof a must but targa ideal, 7 speed manual or a true DCT, 370WHP 350TQ and the fact its NOT American Muscle. And you wont find a German anywhere NEAR that in price. So yea, id pay $50K.

njobe89

for 50k i'd rather get a used gtr.

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Firebase99

i wouldnt touch a used GTR unless I had boatloads of money in which case I wouldnt touch a used GTR...lol

FPenvy

used GT-R's in that 50k price range you spoke of i wouldn't touch.

brand new 400+ HP Z for 50k or 2009 GT-R with 30k miles for 50k.......now you're into expense maintenance part of owning the GT-R and wear and tear. plus not knowing how the previous owner treated it is always a factor.

it's like when you start dating a new chick. she could have been gang banged by a whole pro sports team and you could never know.....until you pay for it later

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FPenvy

NEW 2-17-15 - possible 2016/17 Z (Z35) details

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brucelidat

The more I think about it, I agree you can't go to 50k unless you are really putting down Vette performance. I am just hoping for 400+hp, 350 trq (and tune-friendly like the 335), about the same weight, sexy looks and less NVH for 40k (before leather and all the tech stuff that I don't need)

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brucelidat

Decently optioned, you're probably pushing 60k for the Vette. I don't think Njobe is talking about new vs new though. I think he's just referrign to all car options in general including used for 50k which is a whole lot.

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Firebase99

I see where he's coming from and yea, the options are there if putting 50 large down for a car. 50 is going to be around my budget, and I wouldn't spend that kind dough on anything used. No way. I'm not rich obviously. In addition the Z is a VERY niche car. 2 seat coupe. So if you stick with that setup, and throw out used, you can forget German or Italian for that $, so for $50K with 400+hp, yea why not? On a side not Hyundai has pretty strong rumors of a beast to replace my current Genesis. Could be a legit Z fighter. Competition is always a good thing.

FPenvy

the rumor about the genny that always interested me was them throwin that 5.0L V8 from the sedan version in the coupe.

other than that and major body tweaks the genny just does nothing for me personally. I drove the 3.8 tack edition when they first came out. nice car but just feels like it's missing things.

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