Potential Buyer With Questions/Concerns

chief_Roka · 10-07-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

I got out and drove a 370Z Touring Edition today. It had the 7AT transmission. While I love shifting my own gears, there are times when I'm just not "feeling it." Now, I'm kicking around the idea of the 7AT because I can use the paddles or just drive.

Without getting into a debate about "manual vs. automatic," is the auto as quick as the manual?

Back to the driving experience. Even though I plan on a Sport model, the Touring was a very enjoyable car to drive.

The 370Z is amazing. I got the opportunity to get down on the hammer, and also tour some back roads. I love the tight, direct handling, and IMO the transmission responds well with use of the paddles.

FWIW, the Mustang is not on my radar screen any longer. I still love it, and still think it's an awesome car, but the 370Z just makes more of a connection with me.

The auto is quicker.

4.6/13.1 vs 4.9/13.3

MJM33067 · 10-07-2009, 04:56 PM

The Auto probably is quicker in a straight line, but in real life driving with twists and turns I believe the manual is not only more fun to drive but also faster. I have the manual and did not test the auto. However, my wife just got an auto BMW 335i which to me feels faster in a straight line. However, pulling out of a curve it is way slower than my 370Z.

RatedZ · 10-07-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

The auto is quicker.

4.6/13.1 vs 4.9/13.3

Awesome. That's what I'll be going with!

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Originally Posted by MJM33067

The Auto probably is quicker in a straight line, but in real life driving with twists and turns I believe the manual is not only more fun to drive but also faster. I have the manual and did not test the auto. However, my wife just got an auto BMW 335i which to me feels faster in a straight line. However, pulling out of a curve it is way slower than my 370Z.

While I'd love to go with a manual, I have a car with a manual (STi) and while I like it a lot, there are times when I just don't feel like shifting. With the 7AT, I can shift when I feel like it, and don't have to shift if I don't. My wife has a 2009 Audi A3 2.0T Quattro with the DSG and that's a pretty decent transmission (I guess...). It's fun to snap off shifts when the urge arises, but if I'm just in "relax mode," I can just relax and drive.

DooDooBrown · 10-08-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

I seriously doubt I'll find a road where I can drive with the throttle pinned for 10 minutes straight.

If you know of one that's not travelled by the cops, let me know!

Oh, I got a few....

RatedZ · 10-08-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

Oh, I got a few....

Don't even say the "new Route 9."

Steven · 10-08-2009, 08:34 PM

I really enjoy a 6spd manual tranny. It complete's the "experience" of driving a true sports car for me.

Auto's are definitely a lil quicker now on the strait 0-60 times. get whatever you are happy with!

RatedZ · 10-08-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven

I really enjoy a 6spd manual tranny. It complete's the "experience" of driving a true sports car for me.

Auto's are definitely a lil quicker now on the strait 0-60 times. get whatever you are happy with!

Well, being mainly a Muscle Car guy, quicker in a straight line is always better, therefore I think I'll go with the 7AT.

The handling is a wonderfully added benefit.

I'm interested in seeing how the 7AT performs on the back roads while operating the paddles. I totally forgot they were there during my test drive.

VCuomo · 10-08-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

...I'm interested in seeing how the 7AT performs on the back roads while operating the paddles. I totally forgot they were there during my test drive.

Trust me, they work just fine!

TXSpeedDemon · 10-08-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

I wanted a car I could drive to shows, and in most cases, nobody's interested in looking at an import car but the "Jellybean owners (SRT-4 owners). Not to sound arrogant, but I prefer to talk to people on the same level of mentality as to a bunch of little wannabe thugs flashing off their neon-lit door panels. The "domestic crowd" are a bit older and more mature. The Mustang is a car I could proudly display amongst a different crowd.

I know exactly what you mean. I'm in my mid thirties now and dropped out of the local scene a few years ago for the same reasons

Good luck with your purchase

RatedZ · 10-08-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Trust me, they work just fine!

How are you liking the 7AT? Do you find it to be a willing "dance partner" with "spirited" driving; the "reaction" of the transmission when using the paddles, smoothness of downshifts/upshifts, etc.?

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Originally Posted by TXSpeedDemon

I know exactly what you mean. I'm in my mid thirties now and dropped out of the local scene a few years ago for the same reasons

Good luck with your purchase

Thanks!

VCuomo · 10-09-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

How are you liking the 7AT? Do you find it to be a willing "dance partner" with "spirited" driving; the "reaction" of the transmission when using the paddles, smoothness of downshifts/upshifts, etc.?

Yup, pretty much how you described it - I like being able to just have the car in D when I'm just running errands or the usual drive to work, and then being able to put it in M mode when I want to play. The tiptronic and paddleshifters respond quickly, and it's great to feel the car pulling hard then launching it to the next gear!

But - go for another test drive before you decide. Put both 6M and 7AT models through their paces, then get the one you like best.

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Yup, pretty much how you described it - I like being able to just have the car in D when I'm just running errands or the usual drive to work, and then being able to put it in M mode when I want to play. The tiptronic and paddleshifters respond quickly, and it's great to feel the car pulling hard then launching it to the next gear!

But - go for another test drive before you decide. Put both 6M and 7AT models through their paces, then get the one you like best.

What about when passing on the highway, such as with "2-gear downshifts?" In other words, if I leave the car in drive, and then mash the throttle, does it sluggishly "kick down" one gear, and then another, or is it pretty much a "7-5" downshift?

kannibul · 10-09-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

What about when passing on the highway, such as with "2-gear downshifts?" In other words, if I leave the car in drive, and then mash the throttle, does it sluggishly "kick down" one gear, and then another, or is it pretty much a "7-5" downshift?

If you don't touch the paddle shifters and mash the throttle, it does hessitate a bit as it's trying to figure out if it needs to go to 5th, 4th or 3rd...the shift itself is pretty quick, but more or less it's like it decides on 4th, makes the move, then changes it's mind and goes to another gear. It's enough that you'll notice it, and change how you accellerate if you don't use the paddles or tip it to manual.

If you use the paddles, two bumps and a stomp does nicely (7=>5, 5=>4)

When it goes into 3rd it's only there for a little bit before it drops into 4th. I think the ECU is thinking "fastest accel possible" and forgets where the redline/manditory shiftpoint is...

In that respect, the auto, in auto-mode, is lacking, is on heavy accellleration and how it handles downshifting.

Using the paddles it's easy, as you know when you'll punch it, and once you get used to the ratios, you know where it'll be ideal - and it'll hold that gear...

And after you pass, just drive to maintain speed and it'll slip back into auto-mode again.

One thing I have noticed is that with the automatic in auto mode, it's fairly smooth. Using the paddles gives it a bit more kick. Have it in manual-mode, gives it a lot of kick.

Kind of cool - it's a manual transmission with different levels of "manual" to it.

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

If you don't touch the paddle shifters and mash the throttle, it does hessitate a bit as it's trying to figure out if it needs to go to 5th, 4th or 3rd...the shift itself is pretty quick, but more or less it's like it decides on 4th, makes the move, then changes it's mind and goes to another gear. It's enough that you'll notice it, and change how you accellerate if you don't use the paddles or tip it to manual.

If you use the paddles, two bumps and a stomp does nicely (7=>5, 5=>4)

When it goes into 3rd it's only there for a little bit before it drops into 4th. I think the ECU is thinking "fastest accel possible" and forgets where the redline/manditory shiftpoint is...

In that respect, the auto, in auto-mode, is lacking, is on heavy accellleration and how it handles downshifting.

Using the paddles it's easy, as you know when you'll punch it, and once you get used to the ratios, you know where it'll be ideal - and it'll hold that gear...

And after you pass, just drive to maintain speed and it'll slip back into auto-mode again.

One thing I have noticed is that with the automatic in auto mode, it's fairly smooth. Using the paddles gives it a bit more kick. Have it in manual-mode, gives it a lot of kick.

Kind of cool - it's a manual transmission with different levels of "manual" to it.

Ok, so when using the paddles, it's much more "performance efficient" than letting the auto "do its thing." Good to know.

kannibul · 10-09-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

Ok, so when using the paddles, it's much more "performance efficient" than letting the auto "do its thing." Good to know.

It's a case of the car being unable to read your mind and act accordingly. It takes an educated guess and it's fairly aggressive in that sense, so I'd say under normal/most conditions it's pretty good - though sometimes it shifts early and holds the gear on gradual accell, rather than bouncing back out if you get on it a bit.

But overall, in the traditional automatic sense - it does it's job pretty damn well, when using the paddles, it's perfect once you learn where the gears are best suited and how hitting the downshift pedal reacts at different speeds.

It's about as close as I'll ever get to a sequential double-clutch manaul, and it does fine for me.

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10-07-2009, 04:56 PM	#32 (permalink)
MJM33067 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 32 Drives: 09 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 16	The Auto probably is quicker in a straight line, but in real life driving with twists and turns I believe the manual is not only more fun to drive but also faster. I have the manual and did not test the auto. However, my wife just got an auto BMW 335i which to me feels faster in a straight line. However, pulling out of a curve it is way slower than my 370Z.

10-08-2009, 08:34 PM	#36 (permalink)
Steven Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Clear Lake, TX Posts: 130 Drives: 09 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	I really enjoy a 6spd manual tranny. It complete's the "experience" of driving a true sports car for me. Auto's are definitely a lil quicker now on the strait 0-60 times. get whatever you are happy with!