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nghivinhton 11-07-2014 11:17 AM

Launching the Z ?
 
Edit: Sorry i meant to say "Launching", not "Lauching" :wtf2:

Ok so I know of 2 diff ways people normally do to launch the car (at least for auto mode) and I'm not sure which way is better, or pros/cons, or if there are any other ways:

1/ Keep it in drive mode, rev the engine with the other foot on the brake up to around 2-3k RPM, then launch it by flooring the car and letting go of the brake.

2/ Someone mentioned something about rev'ing high in neutral, then switch over to Drive and floor it.

I'm still a beginner, but i've been using method 1 for my Z (using the manual mode) and my previous cars for the fun.

What do you guys think? :drama:

JARblue 11-07-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nghivinhton (Post 3025008)
2/ Someone mentioned something about rev'ing high in neutral, then switch over to Drive and floor it.

If that someone mentioned it and said anything other than "DO NOT EVER DO THIS! EVER! EVER! EVER!" then you should ignore anything they ever have to say about cars. Period.

That is just about the absolute worst method to launch an AT. Unless you are trying to destroy your transmission :wtf2:

Mt Tam I am 11-07-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3025049)
If that someone mentioned it and said anything other than "DO NOT EVER DO THIS! EVER! EVER! EVER!" then you should ignore anything they ever have to say about cars. Period.

That is just about the absolute worst method to launch an AT. Unless you are trying to destroy your transmission :wtf2:

:iagree:

TerribleONE 11-07-2014 12:10 PM

X2.. Do NOT neutral drop your car!

Read T 11-07-2014 12:10 PM

neutral drop ftw

kenchan 11-07-2014 12:44 PM

launching the z causes the car to crap in its pants (rear diff leak)..

TerribleONE 11-07-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3025124)
launching the z causes the car to crap in its pants (rear diff leak)..

With minor sharts... (wheel hop)

Bking 11-07-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3025075)
neutral drop ftw

for the wreck?

Hammtastic 11-07-2014 02:02 PM

VDC off, hold foot brake while holding gas pedal to desired RPM, floor gas pedal and release foot brake at the same time.

UNKNOWN_370 11-07-2014 02:57 PM

The best way!
1.Rev the engine up for about a minute in neutral but DO NOT DROP it in D. The brake should be depressed for safety.
2. Once you stop revving, Place car in D stomp on the gas with VDC ON the first gear. While in second quickly take VDC OFF and shift into third gear. Make sure you redline the first 4 gears but prevent over-revving.

You don't need all that brake drama. It will slow you down. If you want? You can do a burn out to heat up the tires before following my instructions. But that gas brake shyt will actually slow u down.

TerribleONE 11-07-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3025309)
The best way!
1.Rev the engine up for about a minute in neutral but DO NOT DROP it in D. The brake should be depressed for safety.
2. Once you stop revving, Place car in D stomp on the gas with VDC ON the first gear. While in second quickly take VDC OFF and shift into third gear. Make sure you redline the first 4 gears but prevent over-revving.

You don't need all that brake drama. It will slow you down. If you want? You can do a burn out to heat up the tires before following my instructions. But that gas brake shyt will actually slow u down.

Iv heard step one helps reduce heat soak.

edub370 11-07-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nghivinhton (Post 3025008)
2/ Someone mentioned something about rev'ing high in neutral, then switch over to Drive and floor it.

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VCuomo 11-07-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3025309)
... Make sure you redline the first 4 gears but prevent over-revving. ...

I thought the Z has a built-in rev limiter (or so I've read on this forum from time-to-time)...

UNKNOWN_370 11-07-2014 04:16 PM

O
Yeah but I'm NOT talking about popping it while RPMS ARE UP!!!


JUST revving the engine to get it angry. The autos algorithm program will recognize the aggressive inputs while in neutral.

I DID say put in D then hit the gas. I DID say do not rev out into D

7at doesn't rev out as good as letting VDC control INITIAL launch

The Z's power level feels a Lil sluggish at first with the gas brake method. It doesn't pop out like the v8. At least on the auto transmission, it feels better from a stop n VDC on.

Z eliminator 11-07-2014 04:43 PM

Much better with VDC off. Hold at 1700 rpm brake and gas. just feather the gas pedal for a few feet and floor it.
Z

nghivinhton 11-11-2014 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3025309)
The best way!
1.Rev the engine up for about a minute in neutral but DO NOT DROP it in D. The brake should be depressed for safety.
2. Once you stop revving, Place car in D stomp on the gas with VDC ON the first gear. While in second quickly take VDC OFF and shift into third gear. Make sure you redline the first 4 gears but prevent over-revving.

You don't need all that brake drama. It will slow you down. If you want? You can do a burn out to heat up the tires before following my instructions. But that gas brake shyt will actually slow u down.

That's a lot of steps to do within a few secs, :tiphat:

onzedge 11-11-2014 09:54 AM

Am I missing something? I can't find "D" in my car.

UNKNOWN_370 11-11-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nghivinhton (Post 3028282)
That's a lot of steps to do within a few secs, :tiphat:

But you get a good jump off the line with little initial wheel spin and a high torque hit & the same time. it has done pretty good against v8's.

It's really not though. I'm just being descriptive.

JARblue 11-11-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3028300)
Am I missing something? I can't find "D" in my car.

There is nothing wrong with you or your car. If you car has "D" gear then you made a mistake :stirthepot:

onzedge 11-11-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3028303)
There is nothing wrong with you or your car. If you car has "D" gear then you made a mistake :stirthepot:

:icon17:

TerribleONE 11-11-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3028300)
Am I missing something? I can't find "D" in my car.

I can get some D in there for ya... :icon14:

onzedge 11-11-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3028306)
I can get some D in there for ya... :icon14:

:tiphat:

kenchan 11-11-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3025441)
Much better with VDC off. Hold at 1700 rpm brake and gas. just feather the gas pedal for a few feet and floor it.
Z

but your sig says: 12.343 @114.14 and it broke :rofl2:

kidkotic2001 11-11-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3025049)
If that someone mentioned it and said anything other than "DO NOT EVER DO THIS! EVER! EVER! EVER!" then you should ignore anything they ever have to say about cars. Period.

That is just about the absolute worst method to launch an AT. Unless you are trying to destroy your transmission :wtf2:

You never ever do this ever ever ever ever!!!!!!

nghivinhton 11-11-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 3028419)
You never ever do this ever ever ever ever!!!!!!

OK OK OK I GET IT , lol :wtf2:

nghivinhton 11-11-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3028303)
There is nothing wrong with you or your car. If you car has "D" gear then you made a mistake :stirthepot:

Where is Peenus Envy ? We need him to defend our D's lol :happydance:

onzedge 11-11-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 3028419)
You never ever do this ever ever ever ever!!!!!!

Not even in a rental car....???

JARblue 11-11-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nghivinhton (Post 3028623)
Where is Peenus Envy ? We need him to defend our D's lol :happydance:

:roflpuke2: :roflpuke2: :roflpuke2:

Well phrased, sir :tiphat:

JARblue 11-11-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3028624)
Not even in a rental car....???

:icon18:

Well, they say there are exceptions to every rule :stirthepot:

blackcherry20 11-11-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3028686)
:icon18:

Well, they say there are exceptions to every rule :stirthepot:

^^^ this. Truth.

Tadpole 11-11-2014 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3025441)
Much better with VDC off. Hold at 1700 rpm brake and gas. just feather the gas pedal for a few feet and floor it.
Z

:iagree:
Yea what he said.

b15 11-11-2014 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3028300)
Am I missing something? I can't find "D" in my car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3028303)
There is nothing wrong with you or your car. If you car has "D" gear then you made a mistake :stirthepot:

:tup:

When driving an automatic I brake torque to 1500 -1700rpm, then floor it. I usually take a sip of coffee too. :stirthepot: I do this in all my rentals :D

onzedge 11-12-2014 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3028887)
:tup:

When driving an automatic I brake torque to 1500 -1700rpm, then floor it. I usually take a sip of coffee too. :stirthepot: I do this in all my rentals :D

:tup:

FrostyNaples 11-12-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3025074)
X2.. Do NOT neutral drop your car!

So just to chime in here, back in highschool, first car, '87 Maxima Auto, i used to N drop ALL DAY LONG.

Not sure what kind of transmission was in there, but dayuum, the only thing that killed the car, was redlining without proper lubrication :tup: = rod through the block.

Transmission still held up. AND, AND, get this, i bough the car @ 202k miles, put maybe 18k more on it, before its demise.

What a great car that was. Rotted rear fenders, pull back seat cushions see the tires :icon23: - bent rear something or other, got mad chamber filling back seat with three kids and going off roading :driving:.

Did i mention the automatic seat belts that rolled up the pillars into position! Best feature ever... why don't we see these anymore?? ;)

I also remember a few times, before its end of days, pulling the bumper right up against a light post concrete barrier at the mall (front wheel drive), and just flooring it. Somehow the tires went bald, lots of white smoke!

.. Anyways to get back on topic, Don't N drop your ride :nutswinger:

Shotta 11-13-2014 09:06 PM

Mash gas and pop clutch.....oh wait you have an auto so just step on the gas.

nismo9132 11-14-2014 12:50 PM

Pretty sure they're not intended to actually launch. I'd bet that doing it over and over is just going to destroy your transmission. If it was intended to be launched, they would have added a Launch Control mode like the GT-Rs have.

If I'm remembering correctly, the old GT-Rs had transmission failures because of the stress that launching (foot on brake and gas at same time) places on the transmission.

Ultimately your call if you want to lunch your transmission, but just something to keep in mind :driving:

nghivinhton 11-14-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismo9132 (Post 3031288)
Pretty sure they're not intended to actually launch. I'd bet that doing it over and over is just going to destroy your transmission. If it was intended to be launched, they would have added a Launch Control mode like the GT-Rs have.

If I'm remembering correctly, the old GT-Rs had transmission failures because of the stress that launching (foot on brake and gas at same time) places on the transmission.

Ultimately your call if you want to lunch your transmission, but just something to keep in mind :driving:

Definitely agree with ya, I don't do this that often cuz I still baby my Z, but i just wanna have the ability to make her work when i want to :horse:

Tadpole 11-14-2014 02:37 PM

One thing to note on the automatic transmission of our Z's is that if you push the brake torque too much the computer will shut it down back to idle. You have to stay below 2k rpm level when doing this to get the converter to stay locked.

UNKNOWN_370 11-14-2014 02:54 PM

My way sounds dumb to people but it friggin works. Just try it first. But read what I wrote carefully so there's no cornball mistranslations "a la EDUB".

UNKNOWN_370 11-14-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3031397)
One thing to note on the automatic transmission of our Z's is that if you push the brake torque too much the computer will shut it down back to idle. You have to stay below 2k rpm level when doing this to get the converter to stay locked.

:iagree:

Under 2000, you're just creating excessive wheelspin. The launch is hard after you spun for a couple seconds. But there's a slight cut in power before the pop.

I keep VDC in first to control wheelspin on launch. Then release vdc in second so power doesn't cut while upshifting so aggressively. Vcd will cut power the second a bump throws off the balance of the Z. I can control that on the wheel without cutting power. Hence VDC off.


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