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Originally Posted by Blue Z34 I've got a solid red 2015 nismo tech manual.. be a man. Get a MANual or he can be smart, get an auto, smack manuals

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Old 11-21-2014, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've got a solid red 2015 nismo tech manual.. be a man. Get a MANual
or he can be smart, get an auto, smack manuals around everyday street or track (preferrably track for forum rules reasons), and not have a left leg thats twice the size of the right from traffic driving.

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or he can be smart, get an auto, smack manuals around everyday street or track (preferrably track for forum rules reasons), and not have a left leg thats twice the size of the right from traffic driving.

the only reason why you smack 'mannies' around is because you got a freakin PANSY system going on there...
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the only reason why you smack 'mannies' around is because you got a freakin PANSY system going on there...
noooooooo i samck trannies.........because technically they are men too, so it's not too morally wrong.

wait....what were we talking about?

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buy what you want... just make sure you will be happy with your choice because at the end of the day you are the one paying the bill and you will be the one living with the vehicle.

and instead of taking opinions from us for at vs mt, take some responsibility and pick the tranny that you want and live with it. or take a hit and resell it and get the other one (don't worry you'll only be throwing away the taxes, delivery, fee's etc etc etc and maybe 5-10% sticker value of depreciation)

you have no one to blame but yourself for your choice. be a man do the right thing, grow a pair and live with your choices. or if you're a girl... uh... yea... disregard my previous statement
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This is turning into the "It's nawt a skirt, its a fookin' kilt" debate again...

Personally, in this debate, I'd side with the crazed gent holding the 5 foot claymore... he sounds pretty serious, whereas the other guy is overly concerned with who sees whose ankles.

Anyway, dude, just test drive both, and base your decision on that.

The whole "me make fire with flint and tinder like mighty hunter -- why you no want make fire like man too!?" bullshit is stupid on many, many levels.

If you will feel like a big wuss in your 7AT Nismo (which, weirdly, no one at Nissan thought would embarrass the Japanese, as that was an option going back to '09 ...), and feeling that way will spoil your fun, then by all means get the 6MT and enjoy all the hearty back slaps, fist bumps and smug nods of approval that await all members of the 3-pedal faithful

I mean, why else would you buy a car except for the admiration of strangers on the internet???

A final thought: If performance isn't the issue for folks (although it sure as hell would be if the 7AT were slower, I suspect...), but rather "feeling connected", and the OP apparently will not feel that way for a good while, then is this all about browbeating a stranger into mastering a new skill?

If so, OP, I say, buy the 7AT so you can enjoy driving right away and invest the time in mastering a 2nd language -- much more useful skill, and if you stumble on a word, you won't hold up traffic.
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This is turning into the "It's nawt a skirt, its a fookin' kilt" debate again...

Personally, in this debate, I'd side with the crazed gent holding the 5 foot claymore... he sounds pretty serious, whereas the other guy is overly concerned with who sees whose ankles.

Anyway, dude, just test drive both, and base your decision on that.

The whole "me make fire with flint and tinder like mighty hunter -- why you no want make fire like man too!?" bullshit is stupid on many, many levels.

If you will feel like a big wuss in your 7AT Nismo (which, weirdly, no one at Nissan thought would embarrass the Japanese, as that was an option going back to '09 ...), and feeling that way will spoil your fun, then by all means get the 6MT and enjoy all the hearty back slaps, fist bumps and smug nods of approval that await all members of the 3-pedal faithful

I mean, why else would you buy a car except for the admiration of strangers on the internet???

A final thought: If performance isn't the issue for folks (although it sure as hell would be if the 7AT were slower, I suspect...), but rather "feeling connected", and the OP apparently will not feel that way for a good while, then is this all about browbeating a stranger into mastering a new skill?

If so, OP, I say, buy the 7AT so you can enjoy driving right away and invest the time in mastering a 2nd language -- much more useful skill, and if you stumble on a word, you won't hold up traffic.
The guy already made a decision. He stated in a previous thread that he is currently negotiating for a Nismo tech 6mt that is listed at 43k or something like that.

*NVM Jordo, looks like he wants to go 7AT now. Dude changes his mind on a daily.
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Guys I could see if the 7 speed was a dual clutch. Then maybe I could see someone making the choice to get that. I still wouldn't. But regardless.. its just a regular slushbox.. nothing fancy. Get the stick and short shifting kit if you feel it necessary and call it day. Be a man. Get a MANual. Roadhouse.
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Guys I could see if the 7 speed was a dual clutch. Then maybe I could see someone making the choice to get that. I still wouldn't. But regardless.. its just a regular slushbox.. nothing fancy. Get the stick and short shifting kit if you feel it necessary and call it day. Be a man. Get a MANual. Roadhouse.
Not sure if serious. because the 7AT is damn good
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Damn good... For an autotragic. True. But still not as fun. Plus with synchro rev boss I can downshift with ease and crush any auto in traffic. Got a MANual for my first 370.. got a MANual for my Nismo. Cuz I'm a MAN. Easy decision.
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Damn good... For an autotragic. True. But still not as fun. Plus with synchro rev boss I can downshift with ease and crush any auto in traffic. Got a MANual for my first 370.. got a MANual for my Nismo. Cuz I'm a MAN. Easy decision.
the AT Z shifts faster then you will ever shift lol, go shift slowly in your MANuel
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The guy already made a decision. He stated in a previous thread that he is currently negotiating for a Nismo tech 6mt that is listed at 43k or something like that.

*NVM Jordo, looks like he wants to go 7AT now. Dude changes his mind on a daily.
My interpretation is that he wants an auto, but the staggering amount of browbeating and mockery is socially shaming him towards a car he doesn't want, but may grow to love...

I think Kenchan's "practice on beater", advice was best. He can get the next car down the line in MT if so desired.

It's not like the 7AT is a poor performer on the Z...

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Guys I could see if the 7 speed was a dual clutch. Then maybe I could see someone making the choice to get that. I still wouldn't. But regardless.. its just a regular slushbox.. nothing fancy. Get the stick and short shifting kit if you feel it necessary and call it day. Be a man. Get a MANual. Roadhouse.
Actually it performs as good or better than non-supercar DCT's, and FWIW, there are slushboxes in all the new Jag F-types...(although, I believe tat all the high performing AT
's -- including ours -- has full lock up from 2nd - 7th, and thus does not rely on fluid coupling beyond 1st).

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Damn good... For an autotragic. True. But still not as fun. Plus with synchro rev boss I can downshift with ease and crush any auto in traffic. Got a MANual for my first 370.. got a MANual for my Nismo. Cuz I'm a MAN. Easy decision.
By that rationale, MEN should should be MENstruating

"Manual" is derived from Latin for "hands", mang...
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Here we go again with the comparisons and justifications.

If you bought a manual bc your concerned with image, you're stupid and insecure. If you have a 7at and feel the need to justify your purchase over a manual by constantly making comparisons to dct, 1/4 mile times, etc, you're equally as stupid and insecure.

No one cares. Enjoy the car
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I mean.. I am kinda trolling a little lol. He should get what he wants. Ultimately it is his car. And I know the auto isn't "bad." In 2009 Car and Driver called the shifts "lightning quick." ...in 2009. It's 2014. They recently re-tested the Nismomatic and came up with a different conclusion this time. But in reality we are talking milliseconds here anyway. The Z is one of the purest sports cars on the market.. a focused two-seating purpose built performer. There isn't a four-four version, nor an AWD or FWD variant, or 4 different engine options.. it is what it is. Pure and awesome. And the manual with synchro-rev..the first manual transmission to ever have it..is far more advanced and far more fun than the auto. Period. That goes for the base Z and the Nismo. The ONLY time that the 7AT shines brighter than the 6MT is on the drag strip..where shift times really matter. Otherwise the manual is faster. Every time.

Sometimes when I show people my car and they ask if I have a stick I tell them no I got the auto just so I can see their face. Never once has a person been like "omg yeah! You went for the auto!"... No.. people's faces range from bewilderment to disgust as they struggle for something nice to say or a change of topic. Then I tell them I was joking. They laugh with me. I laugh with them. Told them I man.. I got a MANual. Yeah it's trivial but if one cares about that sort of parking lot banter it's also something to think about. Me personally though.. I'd get the manual even if it was a half second slower.. the complete control over the car is worth it to me. Idk when I'll ever want an auto in my sports car. Probably never.
This is my whole point: When you aren't arguing performance or feel, but rather social perception of "good/right" "bad/wrong", we're into territory that has nothing to do with cars...
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Here we go again with the comparisons and justifications.

If you bought a manual bc your concerned with image, you're stupid and insecure. If you have a 7at and feel the need to justify your purchase over a manual by constantly making comparisons to dct, 1/4 mile times, etc, you're equally as stupid and insecure.

No one cares. Enjoy the car
True enough, but no one is publicly (and not really in a tongue-in-cheek way) telling anyone they're a huge wuss making an unforgivable mistake for buying the MT. So what you're saying is, people who get publicly lambasted should just deal with it -- after all, what do they expect for openly admitting to such an embarrassingly terrible and unmanly choice?

And clearly people care. A lot. There wouldn't be a new thread every 15 minutes if no one did.

Here's an idea: When someone posts a thread on "which should I get?", the default recommendation could be "Test drive both and choose the one that you prefer" (where have I heard that before?).

Any follow-up response by the OP after "just test drive 'em" is almost certainly going be a plea for social approval... and then we're back to this whole thing.

I'm pretty convinced this issue simply won't die until there just aren't any sports/sporty new cars equipped with three pedals, and then people will look back on this whole debate as quaint and or silly.

On another note, tonight I watched the director's cut of Night Breed -- no CGI, all physical special effects.

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer the old school physical special effects -- even the cheesy ones -- over the modern computer generated ones. They feel visceral and real. Not so polished and plastic. They require real hands-on control and inventiveness and a genuine passion for the art of making special effects come to life. To me, CGI is a relatively cold, and artless process, where a computer interpolates data points from a few specific inputs.

Should I just shut the hell up and be glad Gollum is not a guy in a rubber suit? Am i making a big stink out of something silly, glorifying something antiquated? Does it matter? Are cool movies with neat effects still happening or has the digital revolution ruined these personal expressions of a man and his vision, created with his own hands?

Totally unrelated? Not so much to me. Same fukin' argument, different hat.
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I mean.. I am kinda trolling a little lol. He should get what he wants. Ultimately it is his car. And I know the auto isn't "bad." In 2009 Car and Driver called the shifts "lightning quick." ...in 2009. It's 2014. They recently re-tested the Nismomatic and came up with a different conclusion this time. But in reality we are talking milliseconds here anyway. The Z is one of the purest sports cars on the market.. a focused two-seating purpose built performer. There isn't a four-four version, nor an AWD or FWD variant, or 4 different engine options.. it is what it is. Pure and awesome. And the manual with synchro-rev..the first manual transmission to ever have it..is far more advanced and far more fun than the auto. Period. That goes for the base Z and the Nismo. The ONLY time that the 7AT shines brighter than the 6MT is on the drag strip..where shift times really matter. Otherwise the manual is faster. Every time.

Sometimes when I show people my car and they ask if I have a stick I tell them no I got the auto just so I can see their face. Never once has a person been like "omg yeah! You went for the auto!"... No.. people's faces range from bewilderment to disgust as they struggle for something nice to say or a change of topic. Then I tell them I was joking. They laugh with me. I laugh with them. Told them I man.. I got a MANual. Yeah it's trivial but if one cares about that sort of parking lot banter it's also something to think about. Me personally though.. I'd get the manual even if it was a half second slower.. the complete control over the car is worth it to me. Idk when I'll ever want an auto in my sports car. Probably never.
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