Why does the 370z get so much disrespect...

Duc_Z09

I did a demo drive in one back when I was looking for a RWD sports coupe. Here are my impressions:

1. Handling is good (but really not better than my 370 nismo IMO).
2. Interior is cheap. Actually, everything about the car is cheap.
3. It has back seats. Screw that.
4. Power is... well, there's no nice way to say it. It's laughably slow.
5. Everything is an option. So by the time you get one kitted out half decently you're into $30k for an economy car with sports car pretentions.
6. The association. FR-S fanboys are the worst part about owning that car. The reason they keep comparing it to the 370 is they feel the need to justify their purchase in the face of a superior but more expensive option. Kinda reminds me of some Z fanboys ripping the Porsche Cayman, actually.

Buy what you like best and can afford. But don't trash the superior car just because you don't/can't have it.

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Felix 808

Personally I say go your own way. If it's affordable & to your liking get what you want & don't bother with others thoughts. If you enjoy it, enjoy it & don't let some Web Racer who's probably still in high school say you shouldn't. Everyone will have different ideas of what looks good/works good. If it puts a smile on your face when you drive it, then it works for you.

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cab83_750

buy whichever car you like and go from there. At the end of the day, it's your personal satisfaction that matters.

Personally, the brz and 370 are apples and oranges. If forced to select I would get the Z for being more muscular and grown up. Honestly, I would not mind owning a used brz just for short trips around the city. But for long and fun trips, I would use the Z.

As for backseats, let's not forget that the Porsche 911 has backseats since its inception. You just have to cut off your teenagers' legs to use them. 😜😜😜

Chuck33079

The BRZ scores a lot of points in my book for showing car makers that there is a market for lightweight rwd cars again. The car itself isn't all that impressive, but it's a good starter sports car. The BRZ is either a hardtop Miata or rwd Civic Si. In a few years when you can pick up a decent one for under $15k, it would make an entertaining little daily driver. Good on gas, handles well, and you can drive the **** out of it without hitting "take me to jail" speeds. Sometimes it's fun to drive a slow car fast.

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DEpointfive0

I kinda agree, but I tell you I had more fun in my ex's underpowered YARIS over the FRZ. The Yaris isn't writing checks it can't cash.

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Magic Bus

As others have mentioned, it's an apples to oranges comparison. Not saying one fruit is better than the other but they are totally different cars so pick one that fits your budget and tastes.

I assisted my son in buying an FRS 6 months ago. A 13 with under 4K miles for $22k otd, a good bargain for a 22 year old engineer. I've also had the opportunity to drive it a lot so here are my impressions.

The Z has the nicer interior overall but the FRS has better seats if you're slim like my son & I, larger than a 34" waist would probably suck.

The FRS cannot seat 4, no way in hell. I'm only 5' 7" and in normal driving position, no one can fit behind me, not even a kid. At best it's a 3 seater. You'd have to move the passenger seat all the way forward and then you can fit someone less than 5' 6" behind there and both people on that side will be cramp.

Speed, no comparison as we are comparing a 6 vs 4. Handling, depends on what you want. The Z is on rails and takes some speed to bust loose, while the FRS can be playful at lower speeds and is controllable so I can understand why people who autocross, enjoy this car.

Ride, the Z is the better ride as it 's firm yet very smooth on tiny road imperfections and not harsh on larger road imperfections at all. In the FRS, you feel everything all the time and it's not quiet either, this would get very tiresome after awhile for this old guy. However the Z likes to tramline vs the FRS.

The FRS is a great starter sports car, but in time it would get old for most, as the natural desire for more speed would take over. So the progression for most would be FRS to Z and no way having experienced both, would I ever go Z to FRS.

tnav

Here's one way of looking at it, in Continental Challenge/Grand Am; the Z is a GS class car, the FRS would be an ST class car. In GS, they run Porsche 911, M3, 370z, etc. In ST, they run civics, Miatas, Mazda3, etc.

The info above is a fact, not something I heard from a friend who knew someone who knew someone, etc.

As said by at least one of the members earlier, the two cars should not be compared.

If I ever get rid of my Z is to buy a Porsche 911 S, not a Honda Civic with 10 turbos running 100 lbs of boost

Minhtin

You need to show those haters love. The more they hate you, the more you love them. Hummmm, where's the heart icon.

Linkonbob

Mmmm!!! I may be a bit of a fat bird in comparison but when you tickle my right peddle and get that raw power/torque from a big NA V6 with damn stiff legs you know it's built for the game, not a high revving skinny tyre burner!!

Stand side by side in the flesh and get a public vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love Z

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brucelidat

There are only 3 or maybe 4 areas the FRS/BRZ beats the Z.

1. Price
2. MPG
3. backseat (if you need that, though it seems pretty unuseable)
4. This one is a matter of opinion but from reviews I've seen, it's suppose dot be more "fun" This is partially because you have skinny sport prius tires that always break loose.

There is no way i comes anywhere close to beating the Z in any quantifiable performance category, though. So if you want to be faster, look better and have better track or drag times, the Z is superior. If you want to slide everywhere even at 35mph...the Toyobaru is for you.

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Benibiker

I was at a traffic light with a blue BRZ next to me one day.. He was checking out my car and I was checking out his. The Z seemed more massive in every way; bigger tires/wheels, bigger curves, bigger hood, bigger exhaust and even seemed taller. I figured he would try something once the light turned green but as I accelerated normally he just whimpered along making sure not to pass me, guess the Z intimidated him.

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brucelidat

I get odd ricer respect occasionally as well. There was a speeding weavy I don't remember what once. I saw him coming in my rearview, weaving and passing people. When he go to me, though, he wouldn't pass. It was almost like he thought if he tried I was going to hit the gas and blow him away. He eventually passed only when I came up behind a slow car. It's rare, but it happens once in a while.

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Mbreese

Jealously !!!!!

scorp38

Yes another brz / fr-s bashing thread I love it. One of my favorite things to do. First off I'll start by saying they are well balanced when you put proper tires on them. They are good looking as far as design. Now that that's out of the way. It has no ******* power at any rpm. The motors don't hold up to boost for **** they aren't reliable over long periods. The interior is cheap as hell. Then there is the identity crisis that I don't like. A mostly Toyota designed car with a Subaru boxer 4 and Toyota direct injection wtf. It is retarded and makes no sense.

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mab864

I drove almost every sport and muscle car before I bought my Z including a BRZ limited. I could have lived with the interior and it handled really well. I didn't care for all the sliding around however. It badly needed a set of sticky tires. But I could never live with the power plant. Sure it was pretty fun to drive, but it was so slow... it would have gotten boring quick. I mean a Honda Civic makes 205 hp. It would be a whole different game if they made an STi version. That thing desperately needs a turbo... desperately.

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