Which would you rather?

mishuko

never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever buy a used german car.

hopefully that made the point. but just to reiterate... never , ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever buy a used german car.

i'm dying here... stop it!

Munts

This made me laugh. Yes whatever I buy will be used. My buddy has a used BMW and he has told me some horror stories.. definitely is making me want to lean towards the Z!!

kenchan

Apprently mishuko likes taylor swift...

DOOMMONKEY777

American over german any day imho.

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kenchan

Yah considering how my wera broke vs snapon never breaking..

Munts

I've owned german, american, and japanese.. don't think i'd ever own american again

mishuko

2008 335xi had 60k on it when we go it, sold at 130. long story short everything but the engine was replaced. literally.

so?

lol... japanese only for this asian kid

Magic Bus

I believe it's a direct injection issue. I have a GTI and within three months of ownership, I couldn't remove the black carbon build up from the exhaust tips. Can't imagine what's going on inside the engine. Also not scientific, but my butt dyno tells me it's lost power due to this.

Also had to take it in twice (under warranty) for rough idle, both times dealer told me, they couldn't replicate the problem. Something was fishy here as both times when I dropped it off, I left the engine running, the service writer sat in the car and noticed it. But by some miracle, when they started it up again it went away

OP, I'd go Z & awd beater for winter. Personally, I'd avoid Audi due to my experience with the GTI, plus their refusal to acknowledge and remedy the carbon build up issue.

mishuko

VW runs great until it gets off the lot. then it runs as if it's 10yrs old.

As for audi's, my cousin had an a4 quattro. ate more oil than gas! they gave it to his mom so they could get a minivan and the mom wanted a hassle free car that she didn't have to worry about low oil light coming on all the time.

she got the is250 awd....

i agree with all here, get the z for summer and a beater for the winter (used juke nismo?!?!?! or something with AWD as they give you a lot more confidence in terms of traction control in winter)... now only if i can practice what i preach =X

370z209

The carbon build up is true with the DI motors. Was tempted to trade in my a4 for an S5 but would of ran into the same problem with the motor so instead I bought another Z.

Some people get the build up with only 15k miles. Audi doesn't cover this on warranty even though its a known issue which is retarded. They charge $1,200 every time you want them to clean the carbon build up.

Long story short, I wouldn't buy another audi until they fix the DI carbon build up issue...

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cigarclifford

Munts...you sure came to the right place today... forum brother Clifford

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Munts