2015 370z Nismo vs 1970 240z

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-11-2014, 08:40 PM

The reviews is watery but commentary from Nissan product specialist on next gen Z.

Watch Z vs Z: 1970 Datsun 240Z vs 2015 Nissan 370Z Nismo Mashup Quick Spin Review | The Fast Lane Car Episodes | Sports & Cars Videos | Blip

Product specialist restated the Z direct benchmark is the PORSCHE CAYMAN. And the Z has always tried to benchmark Porsche. Us true Z enthusiasts understand that already. No FR-S competing Z. Lol.

So no corvette or mustang competitor in the next gen. So all those angry about that can upgrade to a muscle car without worry of Nissan secretly adding a v8.

Enjoy the vid guys!!!

bvl · 10-12-2014, 07:01 AM

Cool link. Never heard that before about the cayman.

- b

mab864 · 10-12-2014, 10:54 AM

Nissan has benchmarked the Cayman S since the inception of the 370. I get tired of folks comparing our cars to muscle cars. Of course it's not as fast in a straight line as a muscle car. Who cares?? That's not why we buy this car. I'm not saying I wouldn't like my car to be a little faster, but faster compared to what? Comparing straight line performance against a V8 muscle car is just dumb. Our cars will match a Cayman S in straight line performance and 90% of their performance on a track at about 50% of the cost. Which is exactly what Nissan was aiming for.

lpsscc · 10-12-2014, 11:15 AM

Funny... I don't think the reviewer knew a thing about the Z(s).
Kinda hard to watch without wanting to slap both of them for various reasons. lol

Wish I could land a job doing that kinda thing.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-12-2014, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mab864

Nissan has benchmarked the Cayman S since the inception of the 370. I get tired of folks comparing our cars to muscle cars. Of course it's not as fast in a straight line as a muscle car. Who cares?? That's not why we buy this car. I'm not saying I wouldn't like my car to be a little faster, but faster compared to what? Comparing straight line performance against a V8 muscle car is just dumb. Our cars will match a Cayman S in straight line performance and 90% of their performance on a track at about 50% of the cost. Which is exactly what Nissan was aiming for.

Actually it's 100% of the performance and 50% of the refinement. The Z can tie, lose or beat a Cayman on track. It's a driver's race..

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-12-2014, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mab864

Nissan has benchmarked the Cayman S since the inception of the 370. I get tired of folks comparing our cars to muscle cars. Of course it's not as fast in a straight line as a muscle car. Who cares?? That's not why we buy this car. I'm not saying I wouldn't like my car to be a little faster, but faster compared to what? Comparing straight line performance against a V8 muscle car is just dumb. Our cars will match a Cayman S in straight line performance and 90% of their performance on a track at about 50% of the cost. Which is exactly what Nissan was aiming for.

Even the 350 was benchmarked against the 911 base.

Datsun240Z71 · 10-13-2014, 06:39 AM

I agree that my 240Z is probably more "fun to drive" like he concluded, but otherwise, there's really not much comparison to my 370Z.

I like them both for what they are.

sjang · 10-13-2014, 07:43 PM

I thought 2015 370z nismo is only available in Auto ... Hmm if it comes in manual ... I def trade my z in for that.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-13-2014, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sjang

I thought 2015 370z nismo is only available in Auto ... Hmm if it comes in manual ... I def trade my z in for that.

Yezzirrr... The Auto is an option, not standard.

sjang · 10-13-2014, 10:57 PM

Oh psh my bad. Thank you

tnav · 10-14-2014, 12:03 AM

I would have asked the Nissan product specialist if the next Z would come with seat belt extensions lol

Jordo! · 10-14-2014, 02:15 AM

I gotta say, the 240Z, 40+ years old or not, is still a stunning looking car!

Shotta · 10-14-2014, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I gotta say, the 240Z, 40+ years old or not, is still a stunning looking car!

I would agree. Just a few blocks from me there is what appears to be a mint condition 1971 240z for sale. It's white with a perfect black interior. I'm not sure if it's been used on a track or not but it has really wide tires on it front and rear as well as bright red tow hooks.

Mt Tam I am · 10-14-2014, 11:22 AM

I just watched video:
It sounds like the new Z could be another year or two away. Not 2016. Maybe this guy is just not the insider I thought he was so maybe it will be 2016 after all.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-14-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I just watched video:
It sounds like the new Z could be another year or two away. Not 2016. Maybe this guy is just not the insider I thought he was so maybe it will be 2016 after all.

That's about as insider as it gets. Nissan is always super secretive. Remember with the 370z. We first saw it in June 2008. Nissan had false panels on it so it looked like a smaller version of the 350z with more aggressive roof rake.. Turned out all the lines on the Z were changed as well as the Z actual rear window shape. We didn't see what the 370 actually looked like till October, then z suddenly went on sale in December. The 370 went on sale 7 months early than originally stated. That's why all this release time is hard to predict with Nissan.

They historically send confusing signals for brand new designs/redesigns.

10-11-2014, 08:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	2015 370z Nismo vs 1970 240z The reviews is watery but commentary from Nissan product specialist on next gen Z. Watch Z vs Z: 1970 Datsun 240Z vs 2015 Nissan 370Z Nismo Mashup Quick Spin Review \| The Fast Lane Car Episodes \| Sports & Cars Videos \| Blip Product specialist restated the Z direct benchmark is the PORSCHE CAYMAN. And the Z has always tried to benchmark Porsche. Us true Z enthusiasts understand that already. No FR-S competing Z. Lol. So no corvette or mustang competitor in the next gen. So all those angry about that can upgrade to a muscle car without worry of Nissan secretly adding a v8. Enjoy the vid guys!!! Jordo!, PaulZ370, UnReal and 2 others like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

10-12-2014, 10:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
mab864 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 482 Drives: 13 Sport 6MT Rep Power: 12	Nissan has benchmarked the Cayman S since the inception of the 370. I get tired of folks comparing our cars to muscle cars. Of course it's not as fast in a straight line as a muscle car. Who cares?? That's not why we buy this car. I'm not saying I wouldn't like my car to be a little faster, but faster compared to what? Comparing straight line performance against a V8 muscle car is just dumb. Our cars will match a Cayman S in straight line performance and 90% of their performance on a track at about 50% of the cost. Which is exactly what Nissan was aiming for. UNKNOWN_370 and P's_Z like this. __________________ Berk HFC & CBE, Stillen G3, UpRev & tune by PSI, GTMat, 3M, Swift, StopTech, H&R 20/25, GT-R, 324 whp & 262 torque

10-13-2014, 06:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Datsun240Z71 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nashville Posts: 177 Drives: '71 240Z Rep Power: 14	I agree that my 240Z is probably more "fun to drive" like he concluded, but otherwise, there's really not much comparison to my 370Z. I like them both for what they are. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Randy in Nashville Middle Tennnessee Z Club 1971 240Z

10-14-2014, 12:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
tnav Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 316 Drives: 2012 370z Silver 6sp Rep Power: 12	I would have asked the Nissan product specialist if the next Z would come with seat belt extensions lol Masterbeatty likes this.

10-14-2014, 02:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	I gotta say, the 240Z, 40+ years old or not, is still a stunning looking car! UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

10-12-2014, 07:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
bvl Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: PA Posts: 362 Drives: MB Roadster (sold) Rep Power: 15	Cool link. Never heard that before about the cayman. - b

10-12-2014, 11:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
lpsscc Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 75 Drives: 40th, Altima SE-R Rep Power: 14	Funny... I don't think the reviewer knew a thing about the Z(s). Kinda hard to watch without wanting to slap both of them for various reasons. lol Wish I could land a job doing that kinda thing.

10-13-2014, 07:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
sjang Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: LA Posts: 25 Drives: 14 Nissan z34 BLK M6 Rep Power: 12	I thought 2015 370z nismo is only available in Auto ... Hmm if it comes in manual ... I def trade my z in for that.

10-13-2014, 10:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
sjang Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: LA Posts: 25 Drives: 14 Nissan z34 BLK M6 Rep Power: 12	Oh psh my bad. Thank you

10-14-2014, 11:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	I just watched video: It sounds like the new Z could be another year or two away. Not 2016. Maybe this guy is just not the insider I thought he was so maybe it will be 2016 after all. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

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