BMW E92 M3 or Nismo 370z Tech?

DOOMMONKEY777 · 10-09-2014, 03:43 PM

Anywhooo, my experience came when a friend of mine and i, desided to lease a 2011 135i bmw with N54 or N55 engine(i dont remember exactly) and JB it + various parts (inter cooler, exhaust, down pipe, intake ext.) Its a looong story of in and out of the shop and removing and putting the parts on (was done by us, i still remember how to wire the jb chip correctly i did it so many times) and the parts that went where electrical, transmission, clutch, oem exhaust falling off literally. And every time we left the bmw dealership they say its fixed, drive back car gets its normal operating temp( was like 310F, we thought to our selfs wtf the oil rated N.O.T. was 260F) and the burning wire smell is in the cabin again. In the end we found the wire that was burning( what happened is that it was like G1 or so wire running on the top of the engine which caused it to vibrate and bend on one fixed place caused to tear and develop election resistance and heated that spot, in the end we stopped goin to the dealer and went to electric supply store to buy wire and that problem never came back.) When we finnaly JB4 it, car made around 480whp, thats when real mechanical problems started( lasted us 2 weeks of jb4 pleasure ) in the end we just stopped driving it, it just stood in the driveway, 240sx was our dd/race commute again.

BMW Engineering SUUUUCCCKKKK!!!

Driftomodachi · 10-09-2014, 07:42 PM

German cars = over engineered to be over priced

Nissan = Engineered just enough

clkio · 10-09-2014, 07:44 PM

I have a 370z and love it, but next to an E92 M3, I would go with the M3 without thinking twice.

edk370 · 10-09-2014, 08:33 PM

^ I seen 2008 911 GT3s for around $80k. That car is tits! Pure track car without any frills, and very fast too. That's like Porsche's version of a FD3s R1/2 or a Ferrari F40. Pure sports.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-09-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370

^ I seen 2008 911 GT3s for around $80k. That car is tits! Pure track car without any frills, and very fast too. That's like Porsche's version of a FD3s R1/2 or a Ferrari F40. Pure sports.

Porsche over bimmer, hands down!

sunkist350z · 10-09-2014, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Porsche over bimmer, hands down!

bmws will never have the classic legendary looks of Porsches 911, they all look like tin can boxes with kidney grills to me. My brother has a 2009 4door m3 fast but felt very heavy compared to my z. bmw great performance, styling wise when you look at them

ouchie · 10-10-2014, 08:52 AM

Can someone please take pictures of the Automatic pedals?

grandpawmoses · 10-10-2014, 01:55 PM

I almost bought a new 2012 M3 in 2013. I traveled to a dealer that had one in stock & discovered some "deal killer" things I didn't like. I was used to a 535i M Sport and had assumed that the M3 features would have been alike.
The "keyless" entry and ignition was only semi "keyless", you had to plug the fob into the dash before you push the start button.
The seats were narrow and hard, not something I'd like to take on a long trip. The leather was of a lower quality than the 535 too.
The turbo lag was the worst I even felt. The salesman agreed and said that was not normal and they would "fix" it.
Now I really dislike BMW's I-Drive system on the 535 because it is complicated menu driven with sub-menus, sub-sub menus, and more. To use it safely, you need to stop. The M3 was less complicated due to less features but it still took your eyes off the road for too long. The pre-set buttons under the radio are not just for the radio, they're programmable via the I-Drive system to perform any function you want from calling home on the cell phone to finding genre specific music.
The navigation unit was on par with units of several years ago. Not even touch screen.
That said, earlier this year I looked at the new 435i and liked it much better. The last I heard the M4 should be out soon. That would get my vote.

jlo370z · 10-10-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by grandpawmoses

The last I heard the M4 should be out soon. That would get my vote.

there is a picture of one in this thread

ZBro16 · 10-10-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by grandpawmoses

I almost bought a new 2012 M3 in 2013...
The turbo lag was the worst I even felt. The salesman agreed and said that was not normal and they would "fix" it.

Uh... the E92 M3 is a 4.0L N/A V8?

Turbo lag was probably due to low blinker fluid. Would not buy.

grandpawmoses · 10-10-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16

Uh... the E92 M3 is a 4.0L N/A V8?

Turbo lag was probably due to low blinker fluid. Would not buy.

You would be correct about the engine. I assumed it was turbo & the salesman didn't know any better either. Didn't BMW change the M3 to a turbo inline 6 later?

tnav · 10-12-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by grandpawmoses

I almost bought a new 2012 M3 in 2013. I traveled to a dealer that had one in stock & discovered some "deal killer" things I didn't like. I was used to a 535i M Sport and had assumed that the M3 features would have been alike.
The "keyless" entry and ignition was only semi "keyless", you had to plug the fob into the dash before you push the start button.
The seats were narrow and hard, not something I'd like to take on a long trip. The leather was of a lower quality than the 535 too.
The turbo lag was the worst I even felt. The salesman agreed and said that was not normal and they would "fix" it.
Now I really dislike BMW's I-Drive system on the 535 because it is complicated menu driven with sub-menus, sub-sub menus, and more. To use it safely, you need to stop. The M3 was less complicated due to less features but it still took your eyes off the road for too long. The pre-set buttons under the radio are not just for the radio, they're programmable via the I-Drive system to perform any function you want from calling home on the cell phone to finding genre specific music.
The navigation unit was on par with units of several years ago. Not even touch screen.
That said, earlier this year I looked at the new 435i and liked it much better. The last I heard the M4 should be out soon. That would get my vote.

M4 is out, I saw one 2 weeks ago with DCT, MSRP was $91k, it was fully loaded, nav, and other stuff. I was disappointed, it did not look very special to me, it seems like the older cars had more character and were more attractive and basically felt better. I am sure the M4 is a sick car on the road, track, etc. just not something I would buy with that kind of money

Magic Bus · 10-13-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tnav

M4 is out, I saw one 2 weeks ago with DCT, MSRP was $91k, it was fully loaded, nav, and other stuff. I was disappointed, it did not look very special to me, it seems like the older cars had more character and were more attractive and basically felt better. I am sure the M4 is a sick car on the road, track, etc. just not something I would buy with that kind of money

Wow, at $91k wouldn't be attractive to me also. Local BMW dealer here (bought a car from them before) willing to start at $2k off MSRP on an ordered M4. With metallic paint, 19" rims, partial leather, adaptive suspension and upgraded sound system (manual trans though) under $68k.

Firebase99 · 10-13-2014, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandpawmoses

I almost bought a new 2012 M3 in 2013. I traveled to a dealer that had one in stock & discovered some "deal killer" things I didn't like. I was used to a 535i M Sport and had assumed that the M3 features would have been alike.
The "keyless" entry and ignition was only semi "keyless", you had to plug the fob into the dash before you push the start button.
The seats were narrow and hard, not something I'd like to take on a long trip. The leather was of a lower quality than the 535 too.
The turbo lag was the worst I even felt. The salesman agreed and said that was not normal and they would "fix" it.
Now I really dislike BMW's I-Drive system on the 535 because it is complicated menu driven with sub-menus, sub-sub menus, and more. To use it safely, you need to stop. The M3 was less complicated due to less features but it still took your eyes off the road for too long. The pre-set buttons under the radio are not just for the radio, they're programmable via the I-Drive system to perform any function you want from calling home on the cell phone to finding genre specific music.
The navigation unit was on par with units of several years ago. Not even touch screen.
That said, earlier this year I looked at the new 435i and liked it much better. The last I heard the M4 should be out soon. That would get my vote.

2012 M3 are NA V-8's. i dont think you drove the car you thought you drove. lol

grandpawmoses · 10-13-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

2012 M3 are NA V-8's. i dont think you drove the car you thought you drove. lol

No, I made the assumption it was a turbo because of the throttle lag. That and the fact that I drove one again in 2014 that was indeed a turbo inline 6. I still wasn't impressed.

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BMW E92 M3	57	55.88%
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10-09-2014, 03:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,013 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 21	Anywhooo, my experience came when a friend of mine and i, desided to lease a 2011 135i bmw with N54 or N55 engine(i dont remember exactly) and JB it + various parts (inter cooler, exhaust, down pipe, intake ext.) Its a looong story of in and out of the shop and removing and putting the parts on (was done by us, i still remember how to wire the jb chip correctly i did it so many times) and the parts that went where electrical, transmission, clutch, oem exhaust falling off literally. And every time we left the bmw dealership they say its fixed, drive back car gets its normal operating temp( was like 310F, we thought to our selfs wtf the oil rated N.O.T. was 260F) and the burning wire smell is in the cabin again. In the end we found the wire that was burning( what happened is that it was like G1 or so wire running on the top of the engine which caused it to vibrate and bend on one fixed place caused to tear and develop election resistance and heated that spot, in the end we stopped goin to the dealer and went to electric supply store to buy wire and that problem never came back.) When we finnaly JB4 it, car made around 480whp, thats when real mechanical problems started( lasted us 2 weeks of jb4 pleasure ) in the end we just stopped driving it, it just stood in the driveway, 240sx was our dd/race commute again. BMW Engineering SUUUUCCCKKKK!!! __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

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edk370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 296 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 13	^ I seen 2008 911 GT3s for around $80k. That car is tits! Pure track car without any frills, and very fast too. That's like Porsche's version of a FD3s R1/2 or a Ferrari F40. Pure sports. UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

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grandpawmoses A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Northport, Alabama Age: 81 Posts: 1,398 Drives: a hard bargain Rep Power: 27	I almost bought a new 2012 M3 in 2013. I traveled to a dealer that had one in stock & discovered some "deal killer" things I didn't like. I was used to a 535i M Sport and had assumed that the M3 features would have been alike. The "keyless" entry and ignition was only semi "keyless", you had to plug the fob into the dash before you push the start button. The seats were narrow and hard, not something I'd like to take on a long trip. The leather was of a lower quality than the 535 too. The turbo lag was the worst I even felt. The salesman agreed and said that was not normal and they would "fix" it. Now I really dislike BMW's I-Drive system on the 535 because it is complicated menu driven with sub-menus, sub-sub menus, and more. To use it safely, you need to stop. The M3 was less complicated due to less features but it still took your eyes off the road for too long. The pre-set buttons under the radio are not just for the radio, they're programmable via the I-Drive system to perform any function you want from calling home on the cell phone to finding genre specific music. The navigation unit was on par with units of several years ago. Not even touch screen. That said, earlier this year I looked at the new 435i and liked it much better. The last I heard the M4 should be out soon. That would get my vote.