IDx combined with the Z as the future of the Z?

Cell · 10-06-2014, 11:25 PM

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/design-...214334661.html

Quote:

Could a completely new production model based on the well-received IDx Freeflow and IDx NISMO concepts be the same model that's also a fully reengineered next-generation Nissan Z and successor to the current 370Z?

Could it happen?

zguynate · 10-07-2014, 02:13 AM

It seems we may have the last real iteration of the Z gentlemen.

Z_ealot · 10-07-2014, 02:40 AM

last i heard, they were looking at developing a lightweight RWD platform for the IDx and then using that same platform to also make the next Z. don't be so sure about anything that comes out in the news though...as far as Nissan is concerned i think they are trying to keep a tight lid on what they are planning for future sports cars unlike when the 370Z was being developed and alot of images of it were being leaked on to the internet against Nissan's wishes.

watson853 · 10-07-2014, 03:03 AM

Wow was really disappointed to read that but then again I'm really happy I got my z34 now.

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Jordo! · 10-07-2014, 04:08 AM

They are not going to build a shittier Z...

DLSTR · 10-07-2014, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_ealot

last i heard, they were looking at developing a lightweight RWD platform for the IDx and then using that same platform to also make the next Z. don't be so sure about anything that comes out in the news though...as far as Nissan is concerned i think they are trying to keep a tight lid on what they are planning for future sports cars unlike when the 370Z was being developed and alot of images of it were being leaked on to the internet against Nissan's wishes.

+1 -- A platform is not a car. Its a smart business and design move in today's automotive reality with respect to chassis cost and use. I think the next Z will be a Z. Id not worry just yet.

Nargrakhan · 10-07-2014, 06:37 AM

I always wanted Nissan to move towards a 3 sports car line, but as many others have pointed out to me on this forum, that would have been very unusual for them to pull off. That article helps support the "only 2 sports car" comments I've been told. It makes a lot of sense.

What has me curious, is if Nissan will do the IDx or the Z. The Z has a long history, but the IDx generated a lot of interest.

However I've seen articles stating if Nissan does the IDx, it would not look as ambitious as the original demo design that was seen in car shows. Given that a lot of the IDx charm was it's agressive retro look, I would voice Nissan go with building another Z. However IF they could pull off that retro appearance with the production IDx, I wouldn't be disappointed if Nissan retired the Z-brand for awhile, and made the IDx.

After all, just because Nissan lets the Z rest for a few years, doesn't mean we'll never see it again.

***EDIT***
On another note... all this speculation news (speculation leaks?), at least from the wording of how executive decision making is still being made, leads me to believe the current Z will still be around until 2016. I'm guessing the new Z (or IDx) will hit market in 2017.

Dirk McGurck · 10-07-2014, 08:11 AM

Yeah, not an issue if the Z shares a smaller platform with the IDx. It's smart business. And there's nothing to stop Nissan from stretching or shrinking the platform to fit the specific car it underpins. That's what all manufacturers do.

If the Z starts from a smaller platform, it could shed some weight.

kenchan · 10-07-2014, 11:25 AM

maybe maybe not

kenchan · 10-07-2014, 11:26 AM

like pulling petals...

Mt Tam I am · 10-07-2014, 11:37 AM

I do not know what to believe after so many conversations like this one. I guess I'll have to wait until the unveiling.

kenchan · 10-07-2014, 11:42 AM

my thoughts exactly, mr. tam...

Eclipz · 10-07-2014, 12:03 PM

I remember when we though the Z35 would be unveiled at the tokyo auto show last year. and based on the article it still doesn't look like the Z35 is finalized. It make take a few more years, sadly.

7speed · 10-07-2014, 01:12 PM

Sounds like the return of a backseat.

Virtual · 10-07-2014, 01:50 PM

Sounds like nissan has no idea what it's going to do with the next Z. They want the entry level sports car, the Z sports car and the supercar in their lineup. It's actually smarter if the idX is the lowest tier in the Z setup and the Z is the highest, kind of like how their is a impreza then wrx then STi. But if the idX and Z are 2 different platforms and if the next Z doesn't do well its definitely getting the axe lol.

btw lot of 'interesting' comments in the jalopnik article
http://jalopnik.com/the-next-nissan-...e-m-1643094196

10-07-2014, 02:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	It seems we may have the last real iteration of the Z gentlemen. Arrvaxx likes this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

10-07-2014, 02:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10091	last i heard, they were looking at developing a lightweight RWD platform for the IDx and then using that same platform to also make the next Z. don't be so sure about anything that comes out in the news though...as far as Nissan is concerned i think they are trying to keep a tight lid on what they are planning for future sports cars unlike when the 370Z was being developed and alot of images of it were being leaked on to the internet against Nissan's wishes. Jordo! and DLSTR like this. Last edited by Z_ealot; 10-07-2014 at 02:42 AM.

10-07-2014, 03:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	Wow was really disappointed to read that but then again I'm really happy I got my z34 now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk carlitos_370z and Arrvaxx like this.

10-07-2014, 04:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	They are not going to build a shittier Z... __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

10-07-2014, 06:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nargrakhan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Nowhere Posts: 176 Drives: Nothing Rep Power: 11	I always wanted Nissan to move towards a 3 sports car line, but as many others have pointed out to me on this forum, that would have been very unusual for them to pull off. That article helps support the "only 2 sports car" comments I've been told. It makes a lot of sense. What has me curious, is if Nissan will do the IDx or the Z. The Z has a long history, but the IDx generated a lot of interest. However I've seen articles stating if Nissan does the IDx, it would not look as ambitious as the original demo design that was seen in car shows. Given that a lot of the IDx charm was it's agressive retro look, I would voice Nissan go with building another Z. However IF they could pull off that retro appearance with the production IDx, I wouldn't be disappointed if Nissan retired the Z-brand for awhile, and made the IDx. After all, just because Nissan lets the Z rest for a few years, doesn't mean we'll never see it again. *EDIT* On another note... all this speculation news (speculation leaks?), at least from the wording of how executive decision making is still being made, leads me to believe the current Z will still be around until 2016. I'm guessing the new Z (or IDx) will hit market in 2017. sizziano likes this. Last edited by Nargrakhan; 10-07-2014 at 06:42 AM.

10-07-2014, 08:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	Yeah, not an issue if the Z shares a smaller platform with the IDx. It's smart business. And there's nothing to stop Nissan from stretching or shrinking the platform to fit the specific car it underpins. That's what all manufacturers do. If the Z starts from a smaller platform, it could shed some weight. sizziano likes this. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

10-07-2014, 11:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	maybe maybe not

10-07-2014, 11:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	like pulling petals...

10-07-2014, 11:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	I do not know what to believe after so many conversations like this one. I guess I'll have to wait until the unveiling. kenchan and onzedge like this. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

10-07-2014, 11:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	my thoughts exactly, mr. tam... onzedge likes this.

10-07-2014, 12:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
Eclipz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 360 Drives: 06 Eclipse GS Rep Power: 11	I remember when we though the Z35 would be unveiled at the tokyo auto show last year. and based on the article it still doesn't look like the Z35 is finalized. It make take a few more years, sadly.

10-07-2014, 01:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
7speed Track Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 697 Drives: 09 370 sports clone Rep Power: 13	Sounds like the return of a backseat. __________________ 09 370z 6spd traded 1/12/15 for 15 Challenger RT 6spd

10-07-2014, 01:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
Virtual Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Socal Posts: 71 Drives: Mystery Machine Rep Power: 12	Sounds like nissan has no idea what it's going to do with the next Z. They want the entry level sports car, the Z sports car and the supercar in their lineup. It's actually smarter if the idX is the lowest tier in the Z setup and the Z is the highest, kind of like how their is a impreza then wrx then STi. But if the idX and Z are 2 different platforms and if the next Z doesn't do well its definitely getting the axe lol. btw lot of 'interesting' comments in the jalopnik article http://jalopnik.com/the-next-nissan-...e-m-1643094196 Last edited by Virtual; 10-07-2014 at 01:52 PM.

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