Love the Paddle Shifters

MJB · 10-15-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This rough 1st 2nd really bothers sports car owners? The next gen 7at won't be aggressive enough because people keep mentioning the rough 2 gears. I like that jerk feeling in conjunction with a burst of torque. Reminds me I'm driving a something emotional & powerful.

Pussification of America bro. Just like some guys cry about the clutch pedal being to stiff

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-15-2014, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Wat the AT even tries to mimick a crappy MT driver?

Manual mode is not geared for casual driving from gears 1-4. Shifts are fast and course. It doesn't mimmick bad s shifting. It feels more like hard launching a v8. But if your life has been driving weak little 4 banger imports? You may confuse the feel for shytty shifting.

hey32g · 10-15-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

A maxima is cvt based no? Why bother virtual shifting cvt... defeats the purpose

Yes, it was a CVT (YUK!!), but when you changed into sport or manual mode it shifted like a normal automatic. So when I used the paddles it was very similar to the Z, but like i said, much "more gentle".

I've driven the 7AT in the Z, and honestly I couldn't tell much difference from a dual clutch system. I also had an Audi TTS, and the shifting between the two was not that different.

Tadpole · 10-15-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Pussification of America bro. Just like some guys cry about the clutch pedal being to stiff

Stiff clutches in these cars? Hahaha!! Jump in some old school manuals and report back.

fire165 · 10-15-2014, 09:33 PM

This is why I enjoy my Z so much.
I use the paddles almost every day, it almost seems I have 500hp...lol

Tadpole · 10-15-2014, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fire165

This is why I enjoy my Z so much.
I use the paddles almost every day, it almost seems I have 500hp...lol

Yea what he said.

kenchan · 10-15-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hey32g

I've driven the 7AT in the Z, and honestly I couldn't tell much difference from a dual clutch system. I also had an Audi TTS, and the shifting between the two was not that different.

yah, i hear it torque locks all gears other than 1st.

critical · 10-15-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This rough 1st 2nd really bothers sports car owners? The next gen 7at won't be aggressive enough because people keep mentioning the rough 2 gears. I like that jerk feeling in conjunction with a burst of torque. Reminds me I'm driving a something emotional & powerful.

are you referring to my post or are you referring to the rough 1-2 6MT owners experience?

my gearing is very short. i'd have to keep the throttle extremely steady and rev it out a bit in 1st to hit second smoothly, or just use drive. it's not rough when redlining it

6MT it's a different story.

Duc_Z09 · 10-15-2014, 11:02 PM

Stiff clutch on the 370? Drive a Mustang once, or grow a pair of balls, and then re-assess your definition of "stiff."

Masterbeatty · 10-15-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Manual mode is not geared for casual driving from gears 1-4. Shifts are fast and course. It doesn't mimmick bad s shifting. It feels more like hard launching a v8. But if your life has been driving weak little 4 banger imports? You may confuse the feel for shytty shifting.

Does not compute? So what you are saying is the tranny has two sets of 7 gears with different ratios?
Last time I checked trannys don't change grear ratios when shifted from auto to manual shift mode.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-16-2014, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty

Does not compute? So what you are saying is the tranny has two sets of 7 gears with different ratios?
Last time I checked trannys don't change grear ratios when shifted from auto to manual shift mode.

No... There's that algorithm input feature in auto mode. If your daily input is smooth easy acceleration in gears 1 & 2. The ecu will send smooth transmission shifts in auto mode. In manual mode, that algorithm feature is not in effect. Your throttle input is everything and the ecu is waiting for you to manually change the gears without the algorithm interference.

Now. I talk about 1-4 gearing because the auto's launch gear is 1 power gears are 2-3-4. 5 is the drive gear and 6-7 are overdrives. 2-3-4 are aggressive feeling. 5 6 7 aren't

There is some jerkiness in the first couple gears in the auto manual mode. but I think it gives the car personality. That's just me though.

Limeybastard · 10-16-2014, 01:28 AM

Wanna hear a little joke on me? Well, earlier today a person in front was speeding up slowing down and drifting all over the place. I was driving at approx 45mph in a 50mph zone when I got overly excited and double pressed ( I assume ) the down shift paddle into second gear ( again I assume ) with a view to pass him. The car hit the rev limiter three times until I realized what I was doing ZOMG! Meaning it cut power three times as it bounced the tach needle. I duly then upshifted and finished my passing moneaver.

Amuse370z · 10-16-2014, 01:32 AM

Do you 7AT owners let go of the throttle when you shift?

When do you shift up on normal daily driving? 3k?

I'm guessing MT and AT owners will be shifting at different points because of the extra gears in the 7at?

critical · 10-16-2014, 07:17 AM

Dont let go of throttle. 3-4k. Anything past 5k im going to all the way to redline.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-16-2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z

Do you 7AT owners let go of the throttle when you shift?

When do you shift up on normal daily driving? 3k?

I'm guessing MT and AT owners will be shifting at different points because of the extra gears in the 7at?

I shift in the same exact rpm's I would in the manual. Again, 6 and 7 are overdrives.

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Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	Stiff clutch on the 370? Drive a Mustang once, or grow a pair of balls, and then re-assess your definition of "stiff." __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

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Amuse370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,170 Drives: '13 PW Fairlady Z Rep Power: 16	Do you 7AT owners let go of the throttle when you shift? When do you shift up on normal daily driving? 3k? I'm guessing MT and AT owners will be shifting at different points because of the extra gears in the 7at? __________________ [Powerhouse Amuse] [HKS] [Volk Racing] [KW Suspensions] [Eibach] [SPL] [TRS] [EVO-R] [NISMO]

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