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james west 09-24-2014 09:30 PM

z or vette
 
Bought a 2013 touring coupe magma red. Had it a year and have 1200 miles on it . having it shipped to Naples in fl. At Christmas in a enclosed trailer. Will be living there permanently next summer. My question , I love corvettes . iI need a reason why I shouldn't trade it in for a vette:driving::driving:. I also love the z. . I'm confused.

enkei2k 09-24-2014 09:33 PM

flip a coin,

best 2 out of 3 wins.

heads - Z
tails - corvette
edge - prius

MJB 09-24-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by james west (Post 2977589)
Bought a 2013 touring coupe magma red. Had it a year and have 1200 miles on it . having it shipped to Naples in fl. At Christmas in a enclosed trailer. Will be living there permanently next summer. My question , I love corvettes . iI need a reason why I shouldn't trade it in for a vette:driving::driving:. I also love the z. . I'm confused.

OP, are you talking about a C7? If yes, then I would trade the Z in a heart beat.

madwi 09-24-2014 10:22 PM

Buy a vette so you can have both?

james west 09-24-2014 10:24 PM

Is the c 7 top of the line. Like is it the most expensive vette.

MJB 09-24-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by james west (Post 2977623)
Is the c 7 top of the line. Like is it the most expensive vette.

C7 is the newest generation that just came out. But the C7 Z06 is about to debut soon, which is the top of the line Vette at the moment. Still, even the base C7 would blow the doors off of a Z.

dotcomee 09-24-2014 11:56 PM

Thought I was in the wrong forums for a second, didn't remember joining a vette forum.

Z all the way.

I really don't like the vette personally, except for the much older ones.

maro 09-24-2014 11:57 PM

Vette!!!

brucelidat 09-25-2014 12:15 AM

If cost is not a concern at all, then go with the vette. The vette is obviously a better performance machine than the, but ti also costs a lot more so it just depends if you can and want to afford it. This is assuming we are talking about a c7 of course since from what I've read, you'd be going a lot cheaper in terms of interior quality as well on older ones, though a c6 z06 i still beastly.

jaedub 09-25-2014 01:10 AM

I'd go for the vette. But as a full time college student, I can't afford that. But I heard the vette has a lot of small issues. Even though it's a great performance car, I personally think it's poorly assembled. I know for fact our Z is going to be much more reliable than the vette. After all, the Z is made in Japan.

Jordo! 09-25-2014 02:00 AM

The new 'vette is turning out to be kind of an unreliable hunk of crap.

Fast, yes. Pretty, yes. But it's shown engine failure and other issues in several magazine tests already ... that's not exactly a good sign.

NoLaKrewe 09-25-2014 02:10 AM

Z all day, the Vettes quality isn't too good atm. Fast sute

Tick64 09-25-2014 02:18 AM

My vote is for the Z. Vette screams mid life crisis. Not a fan of it's asss end either. Yes I know it's faster.

Zoren 370 09-25-2014 02:34 AM

OP how old are you if you don't mind sharing.
2nd question whats your priority why you want a sports car?

sunkist350z 09-25-2014 02:38 AM

As much of how I love the new styling, interior and performance of the new c7, the thought of owning a GM car which totally turns me off, especially the fact of the amount of recalls and GM is not allowed to sell 2015 untill all recalls are rectified.

NoLaKrewe 09-25-2014 02:42 AM

That's my thing, I wouldn't switch from a car with fairly little problems to a car with so many problems they have already stopped selling them

Zoren 370 09-25-2014 02:46 AM

I do understand where your coming from. GM sucks!
But when it comes to vett. Its a different ball game. Its their Gem,its the very essence of their existence.

Just as Nissan sucks with their Sentra's but when it comes to the Z and with the GTR its like a different world to them.

Nola? Have you owned a vett?

NoLaKrewe 09-25-2014 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2977724)
I do understand where your coming from. GM sucks!
But when it comes to vett. Its a different ball game. Its their Gem,its the very essence of their existence.

Just as Nissan sucks with their Sentra's but when it comes to the Z and with the GTR its like a different world to them.

Nola? Have you owned a vett?

No sir, but I've long been in love with them. I have been keeping up with them pretty heavily since 04ish. I would love to own one but I can't afford one nor would my wife allow it. I've usually been impressed and still am with the new Vettes but at this time it feels wrong recommending a Vette.

whiteZ34 09-25-2014 05:19 AM

Personally I'd keep the Z. My car eats vetts all day. My father owns a Vett and I've driven it many times fast yea, but over priced and everyone has one. Plus for half the price you can make a z way better. I'm just a Z lover, so Z all the way

Duc_Z09 09-25-2014 06:40 AM

I like the newer ones (in hardtop) but I'm not sure how I'll feel about them 10 years from now. Zs age well and you can always go FI if you want it to be stupid fast.

If I could have any Vette it would be a C3 modded all to hell. Nothing between 1982 and the new C7 really impresses me to be honest.

rxdo 09-25-2014 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 2977818)
I like the newer ones (in hardtop) but I'm not sure how I'll feel about them 10 years from now. Zs age well and you can always go FI if you want it to be stupid fast.

If I could have any Vette it would be a C3 modded all to hell. Nothing between 1982 and the new C7 really impresses me to be honest.

having owned both, I liked my z, but love my C7. it rides nicer, much better interior. honestly if the z had a better engine i think i would have kept it, but it just wasnt smooth/powerful enough. still love the z looks though!

mishuko 09-25-2014 07:04 AM

Real question is... can a vette drive sideways?

Shawa 09-25-2014 08:15 AM

The Z is way too sexy to give up, plus with all the aftermarket parts and routes you can go with it's just a beast. For the money Id rather turbo the Z and make it a sleeper.

watson853 09-25-2014 08:44 AM

I'd wait a while on the C7 there have been lots of issues with that car. I believe Car & Drivers corvette needed a new engine after a few thousand miles and then there is this.

http://carbuzz.com/news/2014/9/14/Ch...inent-7722572/


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Munts 09-25-2014 08:55 AM

Vettes are so played out IMO. Almost every time I see one it's a red convertible with a guy with gray hair driving it. I don't know, but to me it kind of lost it's "cool" factor. As other's said before, the C7 is a different story..those are pretty sick.

Why not just get a Hellcat? :yum:

JWillis72 09-25-2014 09:06 AM

Naples has a corvettes on every corner, I would keep the Z.

Mt Tam I am 09-25-2014 09:24 AM

OP I know how you feel. I feel C7 bound as well but I am holding out for the Z06. This weekend I was at the track and fell back in love, or lust, with my Z. C5 and C6 Corvettes were slowing me down on the turns and overall slowed my track times. The 370Z is quite a car for so little money. :tup:

kenchan 09-25-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by james west (Post 2977589)
Bought a 2013 touring coupe magma red. Had it a year and have 1200 miles on it . having it shipped to Naples in fl. At Christmas in a enclosed trailer. Will be living there permanently next summer. My question , I love corvettes . iI need a reason why I shouldn't trade it in for a vette:driving::driving:. I also love the z. . I'm confused.


but that's a huge amount of money you're probably going to waste....:confused: well, if you luv vettes then it's not a waste i suppose. :D

Virtual 09-25-2014 11:33 AM

I'd wait out a year for the vette, just so all the bugs get fixed. Nothing worse than looking at something that pretty just sitting in your garage if you can't drive it.

jpkirk 09-25-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2978169)
but that's a huge amount of money you're probably going to waste....:confused: well, if you luv vettes then it's not a waste i suppose. :D

The question is, will he love it after he has owned it for a year.

Never buy a first year model. Vettes are all over the place so they are not unique. The standard C6 is good, can a Z keep up with it? Not a Z06 C6. Those are fairly rare though. Vette's before that the Z will likely keep up. So I don't think performance is a good reason. With some mods the Z will be in contention with a base C7 and looks elegant doing it. The C7 is all edges and stuff.

Even so, I do like the looks of the C7.

MJB 09-25-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2978263)
The question is, will he love it after he has owned it for a year.

Never buy a first year model. Vettes are all over the place so they are not unique. The standard C6 is good, can a Z keep up with it? Not a Z06 C6. Those are fairly rare though. Vette's before that the Z will likely keep up. So I don't think performance is a good reason. With some mods the Z will be in contention with a base C7 and looks elegant doing it. The C7 is all edges and stuff.

Even so, I do like the looks of the C7.

A fully bolt on and tuned Z can maybe...... I repeat... maybe can keep up with a stock C5 vette (0-60/ 1/4). A C5 Z06? No chance. And a C6, base or Z06 would destroy a Z. We already know the answer about a C7.

Not trying to be a GM fan boy... but lets be realistic people. For the money, you get a ton of performance with these cars. And I'm not talking about just straight line speed. Since the C5 came out, these things can handle, brake, you name it. Are they everywhere? Well it is an American made car, so no sh!t.

As far as claiming only old men drive them.... well if that is the case then the majority of 370z drivers I see around my area look like a Jersey Shore characters. And don't even get me started about 350z drivers. Kinda pointless to base your opinion on a car by its drivers. I understand this is a Z forum, but believe it or not there are better performance cars out there. And not that much more expensive compared to the new Nismo with tech +7At package.

UNKNOWN_370 09-25-2014 12:47 PM

The vette is a compelling vehicle. It's one of my "next ride" options, but... Elecsteer is a turn off... With the Ridiculous amount of recalls and engine failures. I would hold out on buying a vette until 2016 or 17. This car needs time to get right.
The Z, is inferior on paper but the Z provides an exhilarating driving experience. A right now car? Z wins. In 2016? Maybe the vette?

MJB 09-25-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2978349)
The vette is a compelling vehicle. It's one of my "next ride" options, but... Elecsteer is a turn off... With the Ridiculous amount of recalls and engine failures. I would hold out on buying a vette until 2016 or 17. This car needs time to get right.
The Z, is inferior on paper but the Z provides an exhilarating driving experience. A right now car? Z wins. In 2016? Maybe the vette?

Aren't most new cars now going to electric steering? I'm not a fan of it either.

UNKNOWN_370 09-25-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2978367)
Aren't most new cars now going to electric steering? I'm not a fan of it either.

Yeah, At least Infiniti kept the hydraulic unit on the Q50 sport. Other Q50 non-sport models are elecsteer. That gives me hope that Nissan sees the importance of hydraulic steering in SPORT vehicles.

DR_ 09-25-2014 02:51 PM

I would keep my sport/touring Z over a base 1LT. Throw in the Z51 and I'm on the fence. Anything above that and a happy new Vette owner :driving:

jpkirk 09-25-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2978311)
A fully bolt on and tuned Z can maybe...... I repeat... maybe can keep up with a stock C5 vette (0-60/ 1/4). A C5 Z06? No chance. And a C6, base or Z06 would destroy a Z. We already know the answer about a C7.

Not trying to be a GM fan boy... but lets be realistic people. For the money, you get a ton of performance with these cars. And I'm not talking about just straight line speed. Since the C5 came out, these things can handle, brake, you name it. Are they everywhere? Well it is an American made car, so no sh!t.

As far as claiming only old men drive them.... well if that is the case then the majority of 370z drivers I see around my area look like a Jersey Shore characters. And don't even get me started about 350z drivers. Kinda pointless to base your opinion on a car by its drivers. I understand this is a Z forum, but believe it or not there are better performance cars out there. And not that much more expensive compared to the new Nismo with tech +7At package.

I wouldn't argue Z06 of any year or any C7. However, there is evidence that a base C6 is only a second faster than the Z around both the Hockenheim Short track and the Top Gear track, and the base C5 was two seconds slower than a Z around Hockenheim Short. Don't know who the driver was though. So I would say the Z would outperform the base C5 easily and could, with mods, at least keep up with a base C6. Just sayin'. I found this info on fastestlaps.com.

I agree there are higher performance cars out there. For me it's bang for buck. If you want C7 performance then you pay the 55K for the base model and move on. If it were me, I would buy at least the 2LT with Z51 package. That would be fun. But, 65K and ... Corvette. A base C6 would be slightly better than a Z, but not much. And you have C6 fit and finish. Earlier model Corvettes will require up tune performance models to do significantly better than a Z. The question for the OP is whether or not he will find satisfaction with increased performance of a Corvette over a Z. If he is going after a C7 then possibly yes. If not, buyer beware. A used Corvette may have unknown pedigree.

:twocents:

Smashley 09-25-2014 04:00 PM

I owned a c6 and it was an absolute thrill to floor it but I would rather daily the Z. I love the c7 in white with black wheels:yum: my fav vette has to be the ZR1 though.

Tadpole 09-25-2014 04:25 PM

Ergonomics have turned me away from the vette. I stopped and looked at a slightly used 13, sat in it, looked around, and wasnt impressed with the set up. Old boring typical GM ergos. I got out of the vette and told the salesman I had a better car.
Dont get me wrong, I do love the vettes from the outside view tho.

Best bang for your buck is the Z. With some good mods you can turn a Z into a monster that will beat the vette in a lot of comparisons tests.

They are both nice rides and either will make you a happy camper!

whiteZ34 09-25-2014 06:46 PM

Vetts are a dime a dozen. And everyone keeps talking about the c7. It's still the same with that, as soon as they hit the dealers they were sold. In my area, there's already about 15 give or take within a 10 mile radius. Why have something everyone has? My opinion.

Magic Bus 09-25-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Munts (Post 2977968)
Vettes are so played out IMO. Almost every time I see one it's a red convertible with a guy with gray hair driving it. I don't know, but to me it kind of lost it's "cool" factor. As other's said before, the C7 is a different story..those are pretty sick.

Guys with gray hair can't be cool? :gtfo2:

Back on topic. The C7 appears to be a great sports car for the price, but there are quite a few issues with it. My suggestion is research the Corvette forums as well as the online magazines before jumping in with that much money to buy a C7.

I've done my due dilligence and I wouldn't buy the Vette at this time. But I believe Chevrolet will work out most of the issues in due time, so as I mentioned in another post, the 2016 model year would be the first one I'd get.

I say, enjoy your Z for now and look to swap it out for the C7 in two years.


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