z or vette

BC416 · 09-26-2014, 02:58 PM

I pretty much just had this debate with myself but instead of a Z vs Vette, it was the Z vs. the 5.0 Mustang. In the end, it's all about what decision makes you happy.

On topic, I'd take a used C6 ZO6 over the Z any day of the week.

MJB · 09-26-2014, 03:01 PM

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On topic, I'd take a used C6 ZO6 over the Z any day of the week.

Some of those Z06's on the 1320video channel on Youtube are ungodly fast.

BC416 · 09-26-2014, 03:06 PM

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Some of those Z06's on the 1320video channel on Youtube are ungodly fast.

The thing is a monster stock. 505hp and mid 11's in the 1/4 at 120+

I wouldn't even need to mod it. Though knowing me that would change real quick

jpkirk · 09-26-2014, 03:19 PM

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I get what you are saying... and for the most part agree. I never once stated that a C7 is "better" than a 370z, just trying to make a point that it is way faster, handles and brakes better than a Z. I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z... But if its strictly from a performance standpoint... then come on people, lets be realistic. The Vette is far superior than a Z performance wise... I tried making that statement and it seemed like a lot of defensive people had to jump in with bias opinions. "Vettes aren't reliable, they are everywhere, old men drive them, add HFCs plus a tune and your Z will be just as fast"... blah blah. I just think some people need to tone down the pride a little... its ok to admit the Z isn't the greatest sports car ever made. Its ALWAYS the same when somebody starts a thread asking about other cars, or is thinking about trading in their car for something else... People get so butt hurt and have to completely bash whatever car is mentioned. Cough cough Mustang*.

Of course being faster doesn't make a vehicle better than another... I would have never bought my 370 if that was the case, or my 350.

I only got on the bandwagon because the OP never specified which Corvette he was interested in. C7 does bring much more to the track. And like you say in your last comment, faster does not make better when you take into consideration intangibles.

Tadpole · 09-26-2014, 03:40 PM

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A little optimistic aren't we? And once again... not to be a GM fan boy, but there are several bolt on/tuned C7's that have hit high 10's already. Go check out there fast list on the Vette forum. A bolt on/cammed and tuned C6 Z06 makes over 500whp so saying a boosted Z is a "Vette killer".... hmm, I don't know about that... maybe a "stock Vette killer"...

If I were to ever get a Vette, It would have to be something a little rare... Z06, or even ZR1. The C7 Z06 is only supposed to be around 78K. Way out of my price range but maybe in a few years.

Im not hating on the vettes by any means but yea the average joe out there racing them are not running those times in a stock or slightly modded one. You are going to the Z06 and the ZR1 class which we all know are monsters and the Z couldn't keep up so please. Those two are in the GTR class chief. My point was simple. You do not need a lot of mod money to be competitive with the Vette. The Z has a damn V6 in it for Christs sake.

FPenvy · 09-26-2014, 03:45 PM

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Im not hating on the vettes by any means but yea the average joe out there racing them are not running those times in a stock or slightly modded one. You are going to the Z06 and the ZR1 class which we all know are monsters and the Z couldn't keep up so please. Those two are in the GTR class chief. My point was simple. You do not need a lot of mod money to be competitive with the Vette. The Z has a damn V6 in it for Christs sake.

for the record if he's worried about keeping up with them he will be fine.

strip run the other day i hung with a couple year old viper.

reason being one of my favorite sayings.....

you spin, i win

power isnt everything when you dont know how to use it and the car cant put it to the ground.

havent raced a new vette yet but i have taken down camaro SS, mustang 5.0, challenger/charger srt8's, C6 vettes, etc...

took out a older supercharged mustang the other weekend too. almost forgot that lol

Magic Bus · 09-26-2014, 04:00 PM

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Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

I can think of a million reasons why the Z is better and it starts with the letter $

Duc_Z09 · 09-26-2014, 04:06 PM

Once again: Lotus Exige S.

1) More agile than Z or Vette
2) Can be had barely used for much cheaper than a new C7
3) Cool factor is off the charts, looks awesome
4) Acceleration will stomp the Z and challenge the C7, if not even beat it outright
5) Way more rare than Z or any Corvette

Too bad I don't have $50k just sitting around...

dotcomee · 09-26-2014, 04:07 PM

Do the base performance stats really matter?

Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys.

Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?

FPenvy · 09-26-2014, 04:13 PM

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Once again: Lotus Exige S.

1) More agile than Z or Vette
2) Can be had barely used for much cheaper than a new C7
3) Cool factor is off the charts, looks awesome
4) Acceleration will stomp the Z and challenge the C7, if not even beat it outright
5) Way more rare than Z or any Corvette
Too bad I don't have $50k just sitting around...

soooooo #3 idk man lol a lotus is a little piece of ugly with a toyota 4cyl

if ANYTHING i would say the evora is cool. exige yea not so much.

and #5 wrong again. i see about 20 corvettes a day. no joke. and many C7's are popping up quickly. i see multiple lotus' on a daily basis and my cars and coffee is overrun with them to where we actually have a lotus day along with our porchse day, exotic day, etc...

there are less Z's here than either of the 3 named.

well i see a couple 350s but those dont count. 370s theres barely any.

and cant blame the area i live in either. at my local cars and coffee we have 4 aventadors, 6 458's, a veyron, F40, Gt 250, carrera gt's, etc lol

Duc_Z09 · 09-26-2014, 04:25 PM

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soooooo #3 idk man lol a lotus is a little piece of ugly with a toyota 4cyl

if ANYTHING i would say the evora is cool. exige yea not so much.

and #5 wrong again. i see about 20 corvettes a day. no joke. and many C7's are popping up quickly. i see multiple lotus' on a daily basis and my cars and coffee is overrun with them to where we actually have a lotus day along with our porchse day, exotic day, etc...

there are less Z's here than either of the 3 named.

well i see a couple 350s but those dont count. 370s theres barely any.

and cant blame the area i live in either. at my local cars and coffee we have 4 aventadors, 6 458's, a veyron, F40, Gt 250, carrera gt's, etc lol

I guess looks are subjective but it's hard to argue with performance. That little Toyota 4-banger will eat up anything but the most outrageously built Z and will give a stock C7 everything it can handle and then some.

Where I live I've only ever seen 3 Lotuses in person and they were all Elises, not Exiges. C7 Vettes are becoming a dime a dozen, 350s are common, there are a handful of 370s, and one other 370 Nismo that I know of.

FPenvy · 09-26-2014, 04:34 PM

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I guess looks are subjective but it's hard to argue with performance. That little Toyota 4-banger will eat up anything but the most outrageously built Z and will give a stock C7 everything it can handle and then some.

Where I live I've only ever seen 3 Lotuses in person and they were all Elises, not Exiges. C7 Vettes are becoming a dime a dozen, 350s are common, there are a handful of 370s, and one other 370 Nismo that I know of.

pretty sure a TT Z will eat a lotus.

500WHP at 3300lbs give or take vs 170BHP at 2600 or whatever they weigh.

go look up pittsburhg cars and coffee we have a million lotus' its almost too much lol

Duc_Z09 · 09-26-2014, 04:53 PM

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pretty sure a TT Z will eat a lotus.

500WHP at 3300lbs give or take vs 170BHP at 2600 or whatever they weigh.

go look up pittsburhg cars and coffee we have a million lotus' its almost too much lol

Um, no. 260hp and 2000lbs, 0-60 in something like 4.1. Sounds like you're mixing up the Evora weight and the Elise power.

MJB · 09-26-2014, 04:57 PM

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Um, no. 260hp and 2000lbs, 0-60 in something like 4.1. Sounds like you're mixing up the Evora weight and the Elise power.

Is the Evora the same chassis used for that Henessey Venom?

Chuck33079 · 09-26-2014, 04:58 PM

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Is the Evora the same chassis used for that Henessey Venom?

The Venom is a stretched Elise / Exige chassis. It looks like they made a new back half for it to accommodate the motor.

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Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	Once again: Lotus Exige S. 1) More agile than Z or Vette 2) Can be had barely used for much cheaper than a new C7 3) Cool factor is off the charts, looks awesome 4) Acceleration will stomp the Z and challenge the C7, if not even beat it outright 5) Way more rare than Z or any Corvette Too bad I don't have $50k just sitting around... __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

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09-26-2014, 02:58 PM	#91 (permalink)
BC416 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NJ Age: 37 Posts: 718 Drives: 2012 KAD 6MT Rep Power: 592	I pretty much just had this debate with myself but instead of a Z vs Vette, it was the Z vs. the 5.0 Mustang. In the end, it's all about what decision makes you happy. On topic, I'd take a used C6 ZO6 over the Z any day of the week.

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dotcomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Austin, TX. Posts: 77 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 11	Do the base performance stats really matter? Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys. Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?