:wtf: hahahah!! seriously ???

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i want it :yum:

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.


This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

you can say it better dude!!! Amen :tup:

Certainly agree here. Sold a crammed, full bolt on C6 Z06 before I bought the Nismo. It was my third +500rwhp car in a row, and I just got a little tired of having power I really didn't use on the street. They are great cars, super bang for the buck, but I just wanted something you don't see everyday. I've said it here before. I think the 370 handles damn near as well, and the stock power levels, while never gonna beat even a stock C5 or newer, are great for the street.

I get what you are saying... and for the most part agree. I never once stated that a C7 is "better" than a 370z, just trying to make a point that it is way faster, handles and brakes better than a Z. I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z... But if its strictly from a performance standpoint... then come on people, lets be realistic. The Vette is far superior than a Z performance wise... I tried making that statement and it seemed like a lot of defensive people had to jump in with bias opinions. "Vettes aren't reliable, they are everywhere, old men drive them, add HFCs plus a tune and your Z will be just as fast"... blah blah. I just think some people need to tone down the pride a little... its ok to admit the Z isn't the greatest sports car ever made. Its ALWAYS the same when somebody starts a thread asking about other cars, or is thinking about trading in their car for something else... People get so butt hurt and have to completely bash whatever car is mentioned. Cough cough Mustang*.

Of course being faster doesn't make a vehicle better than another... I would have never bought my 370 if that was the case, or my 350.

FP, he makes it to fourth near the end. But those are quick changes. :driving:

Reading his posts, it seems that he's already set on getting the C7 and wants to be convinced that keeping the Z is better.

He claims to loves the Z and C7 equally in terms of appearance and appeal. So if performance is the determinator... get the C7. If spending is the determinator... stay with the Z. If it's all about bragging rights... well... it depends on the audience.

I'm in agreement with you... these "Car X versus Car Y" topics are ultimately silly "this is better than that" bait.

Me? Who cares what OTHER people think of your ride? It's YOUR ride. More importantly: it's YOUR money. Do what YOU want.

If peer pressure determines what car you buy: see whatever the latest car magazines are gushing over as the hottest thing. Just don't be disappointed if 6 to 12 months later, the magazines are praising something entirely different. Cars are like computers... the next best thing is always around the corner, and what you buy today will be old news tomorrow.

He is set on a C7, but like FPenvy mentioned, he didn't even know what a C7 was, lol. I was gonna say maybe to hold out till the Z35 comes out... if it ever does.

I pretty much just had this debate with myself but instead of a Z vs Vette, it was the Z vs. the 5.0 Mustang. In the end, it's all about what decision makes you happy.

On topic, I'd take a used C6 ZO6 over the Z any day of the week. :driving:

Some of those Z06's on the 1320video channel on Youtube are ungodly fast.

The thing is a monster stock. 505hp and mid 11's in the 1/4 at 120+

I wouldn't even need to mod it. Though knowing me that would change real quick :icon17:

I only got on the bandwagon because the OP never specified which Corvette he was interested in. C7 does bring much more to the track. And like you say in your last comment, faster does not make better when you take into consideration intangibles.

Im not hating on the vettes by any means but yea the average joe out there racing them are not running those times in a stock or slightly modded one. You are going to the Z06 and the ZR1 class which we all know are monsters and the Z couldn't keep up so please. Those two are in the GTR class chief. My point was simple. You do not need a lot of mod money to be competitive with the Vette. The Z has a damn V6 in it for Christs sake.

for the record if he's worried about keeping up with them he will be fine.

strip run the other day i hung with a couple year old viper.

reason being one of my favorite sayings.....

you spin, i win :tiphat:

power isnt everything when you dont know how to use it and the car cant put it to the ground.

havent raced a new vette yet but i have taken down camaro SS, mustang 5.0, challenger/charger srt8's, C6 vettes, etc...

took out a older supercharged mustang the other weekend too. almost forgot that lol

I can think of a million reasons why the Z is better and it starts with the letter $ :icon17:

Once again: Lotus Exige S.:driving:

1) More agile than Z or Vette
2) Can be had barely used for much cheaper than a new C7
3) Cool factor is off the charts, looks awesome
4) Acceleration will stomp the Z and challenge the C7, if not even beat it outright
5) Way more rare than Z or any Corvette

Too bad I don't have $50k just sitting around...:rolleyes:

Do the base performance stats really matter?

Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys.

Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?

soooooo #3 idk man lol a lotus is a little piece of ugly with a toyota 4cyl

if ANYTHING i would say the evora is cool. exige yea not so much.

and #5 wrong again. i see about 20 corvettes a day. no joke. and many C7's are popping up quickly. i see multiple lotus' on a daily basis and my cars and coffee is overrun with them to where we actually have a lotus day along with our porchse day, exotic day, etc...

there are less Z's here than either of the 3 named.

well i see a couple 350s but those dont count. 370s theres barely any.

and cant blame the area i live in either. at my local cars and coffee we have 4 aventadors, 6 458's, a veyron, F40, Gt 250, carrera gt's, etc lol

I guess looks are subjective but it's hard to argue with performance. That little Toyota 4-banger will eat up anything but the most outrageously built Z and will give a stock C7 everything it can handle and then some.

Where I live I've only ever seen 3 Lotuses in person and they were all Elises, not Exiges. C7 Vettes are becoming a dime a dozen, 350s are common, there are a handful of 370s, and one other 370 Nismo that I know of.

pretty sure a TT Z will eat a lotus.

500WHP at 3300lbs give or take vs 170BHP at 2600 or whatever they weigh.

go look up pittsburhg cars and coffee we have a million lotus' its almost too much lol

Um, no. 260hp and 2000lbs, 0-60 in something like 4.1. Sounds like you're mixing up the Evora weight and the Elise power.:confused:

Is the Evora the same chassis used for that Henessey Venom?

The Venom is a stretched Elise / Exige chassis. It looks like they made a new back half for it to accommodate the motor.

My understanding is that the Venom is a stretched Exige. They just had to make it longer to fit a massive engine.

The Evora is totally different than the Exige. It weighs over 3000lbs, has back seats, and is powered by a V6 that makes around the same power as a Z. I personally don't see the point.

Oh ok. We had a guy in our WA Z club go from a 370z to a Exige. It was so tiny. Looked pretty cool and from what he said was really fast.

At the end of the track day how many Corvette guys will brag about passing a six cylinder 370Z? None. The Z on the other hand is the underdog in the fight. If it wins or does as well then which car was the better purchase?

"There's no need to fear Underdog is here."

They're stupid fast because they don't weigh anything. Here's a vid of an Elise (basically a much less powerful, cheaper, soft top Exige) spanking a 370 Nismo and some other cars in a drag race. Not the best start from the Z driver, but you still get the idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPpU17C5JM

I hate to go off topic but I need to mention quality. I work for a worldwide elevator co. Here in the US we made a major change and fumbled the ball, instead of apologizing to the customers and do a recall we had a meeting and basically said that it was not a safety issue so when things broke we would fix them.
Our counter parts in Japan made a mistake Once and we sat thru hours of teleconferencing watching every one from the plant manager, engineer, manufacturing personnel to the secretary who sent out the manuals apologize and bow their heads to us...a day later to receive a retrofit unit to be sent out to repair the flaw in the field which was replacing the metric to standard hardware...my point is that as a country we (look at GM) really are not following the motto "Quality is #1"...but quantity is, sad but true and this applies to all the transportation, manufacturing and any business that has CEO's that love their big bonuses... enough said...carry on Z vs Vett :drama:

Go with the Vette. High school jackoffs are picking up used 09s for dirt cheap and slamming, hellaflushing, woot woot muffler-ing them. Look around the forum for proof. Me? I'll be the bald, middle-aged fvck driving a C7 in a couple years.

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What? No way... I NEVER see that on the VQ Nation FB page :rofl2:

Luckily, in New Orleans I don't see a 370z often at all. Infact I may see one every 2 days. I have yet to see Nismo 370 down here, I heard they're a few but I've never seen them.

HaHa, so does the Z.

I know its in the wet weather but this thing barely moves..Matt Farah Discovers Pointlessness of Dodge’s New 707HP Challenger Hellcat in the Wet

With 707hp and summer tires, not surprised it wasn't as fast driving in a freakin monsoon.

Its did a 10.8 pass with DR's.

This will be in my garage soon next to my Z!
Don't care what you say.
I'll enjoy my Life. While the rest complain about the silliest things about life!

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^ Nice! But if I was going to get a C7, I think I would go all out and get the Z06!

Same. If you get a Vette go zo6