Advice: 370z after accident // keep or sell?

onzedge · 09-15-2014, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

You are on the edge. If it will drive perfectly fix it. Best of luck.

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ProfessorDave · 09-15-2014, 03:30 PM

You guys in CT were slammed last winter. And the one before that, I think. I don't blame you for thinking of going AWD. Wrecked Z or not!

spdandpwr · 09-15-2014, 04:37 PM

yea, the car isn't totalled or salvage title...damage is front bumper, radiator clips, powersteering cooler, wheel, tire, front quarter, hood (needs to be bumped out), and everything associated with the front control arm.

And the negotiated price for the Sti is at 500 below invoice. I'm not disagreeing that I'm getting screwed, I'm having a dilemma of whether or not getting screwed is worth having the issue of driving "damaged goods"

Ubetit · 09-15-2014, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spdandpwr

oh, and if anyone is wondering...this accident happened at 15 mph in first gear...to this day shocked at the extent of the damage for a low speed accident.

but the other guy in your head on collision was going a least 45 right?

Ubetit · 09-15-2014, 05:36 PM

Also, you're getting severely hosed if you have to give the dealer a 2014 Z, a 2013 ABarth and $3,000.

spdandpwr · 09-15-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubetit

Also, you're getting severely hosed if you have to give the dealer a 2014 Z, a 2013 ABarth and $3,000.

I need to do some clarifying.

I don't own either of these cars outright...still paying off the loans. So I'd be paying off negative equity by switching them out. However, even with negative equity, the monthly payment for the subaru is less than the combined total of the Nissan and the Fiat. As well it's nearly 250 when you factor insurance. I'll pay off that downpayment in less than a year on savings alone. Just can't come to figure out if the damage will affect car enough for me to need to trade...it's not a salvage, thankfully

Magic Bus · 09-15-2014, 07:06 PM

Just curious, aren't you putting the cart in front of the horse? Meaning don't you have to repair the car before you trade it in to the dealer?

So why not fix the Z with the insurance money. See how it drives, then make your decision whether to keep it or trade your cars at that time.

cigarclifford · 09-15-2014, 07:17 PM

All jokes aside. I am here to help..............

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PapoZalsa · 09-15-2014, 08:34 PM

I had an accident about 3 yrs ago. The damage paid by the insurance was a total of $9K, no frame or steering damage all cosmetic. No airbag deployment either.

Fixed with OEM parts in one of the best body shops in my area. After that I have been 3 times on the dragon with no issues. So I still have the car and you would not be able to know what side of the car was hit.

However if it had any frame or front end steering problems I would have sold it.

Dirk McGurck · 09-15-2014, 08:57 PM

If he owes this much on both cars, why not get the settlement for the Z and keep the Abarth and pay it off. Then wait a couple years with no car payment and buy the new Z when it comes out.

Limeybastard · 09-16-2014, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by spdandpwr

damage quote is 10k on the nissan...the adjuster was confident that the car was not beyond repair...and he insisted that he'll guarantee the car will drive perfectly for as long as I own it.

Thats what they all say. You have your heart on the STi, go for it.

SouthArk370Z · 09-16-2014, 08:33 PM

As long as you didn't do any frame damage, a good shop should be able to fix that so it looks/drives like new. Finding a good shop is the difficult part.

I kissed a tree and knocked the front right wheel completely off of the car. My fave body shop fixed it so that the only way to tell was a slight air leak in the right door seal that showed up at high (100+) speeds. They replaced the whole wheel/steering assembly and did some great body work. YMMV
They told me that many modern cars are built similar to race cars and designed to break apart in a crash - the outer parts are sacrificed to protect the major components and occupants. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds good.

mab864 · 09-17-2014, 08:25 AM

You loose money on all car purchases... it's a fact. Trading cars often is worse of course. I agree with Magic Bus... get the car fixed and see how you feel about it and how it drives. I wouldn't do anything until that part of the deal is done. Then decide if you'd rather have one AWD car to do everything. AWD in CT makes sense, but you will get hosed by trading in. STIs are nice but still a 4 door sedan which was not what I was after.

njobe89 · 09-17-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

Selling would be a mistake at this point. Making decisions in the heat of the moment is wrong. I have had a similar crash (with a Scion TC I used to own) and after quality work, the car drove just as well as ever. Its the psychological issue of feeling "violated" that effects you.

I have a hunch you have already decided to go for the STI and are simply looking for support, sort of like when dumping a GF and excuses because you already have someone else in mind!

Otherwise, get it repaired, get some Blizzaks and use a cab on the few days when weather is truly awful.

lolol... yessssss

Limeybastard · 09-17-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

As long as you didn't do any frame damage, a good shop should be able to fix that so it looks/drives like new. Finding a good shop is the difficult part.

I kissed a tree and knocked the front right wheel completely off of the car. My fave body shop fixed it so that the only way to tell was a slight air leak in the right door seal that showed up at high (100+) speeds. They replaced the whole wheel/steering assembly and did some great body work. YMMV
They told me that many modern cars are built similar to race cars and designed to break apart in a crash - the outer parts are sacrificed to protect the major components and occupants. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds good.

Yep, it is called crumple zones.

09-15-2014, 03:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 19	You guys in CT were slammed last winter. And the one before that, I think. I don't blame you for thinking of going AWD. Wrecked Z or not! __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

09-15-2014, 07:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	Just curious, aren't you putting the cart in front of the horse? Meaning don't you have to repair the car before you trade it in to the dealer? So why not fix the Z with the insurance money. See how it drives, then make your decision whether to keep it or trade your cars at that time. Motionmagic likes this.

09-15-2014, 07:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
cigarclifford A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Cali State Hospital Posts: 13,351 Drives: 2017 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 458713	All jokes aside. I am here to help.............. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6169/6...4687f9d6_z.jpg onzedge and janglez like this. __________________ -Clifford

09-15-2014, 08:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	I had an accident about 3 yrs ago. The damage paid by the insurance was a total of $9K, no frame or steering damage all cosmetic. No airbag deployment either. Fixed with OEM parts in one of the best body shops in my area. After that I have been 3 times on the dragon with no issues. So I still have the car and you would not be able to know what side of the car was hit. However if it had any frame or front end steering problems I would have sold it. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

09-15-2014, 08:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	If he owes this much on both cars, why not get the settlement for the Z and keep the Abarth and pay it off. Then wait a couple years with no car payment and buy the new Z when it comes out. cigarclifford, Ghostvette and Motionmagic like this. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

09-15-2014, 04:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
spdandpwr Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: CT Posts: 52 Drives: 370Z Sport Rep Power: 11	yea, the car isn't totalled or salvage title...damage is front bumper, radiator clips, powersteering cooler, wheel, tire, front quarter, hood (needs to be bumped out), and everything associated with the front control arm. And the negotiated price for the Sti is at 500 below invoice. I'm not disagreeing that I'm getting screwed, I'm having a dilemma of whether or not getting screwed is worth having the issue of driving "damaged goods"

09-15-2014, 05:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ubetit Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Drives: the women lazy Rep Power: 14	Also, you're getting severely hosed if you have to give the dealer a 2014 Z, a 2013 ABarth *and* $3,000.

09-16-2014, 08:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	As long as you didn't do any frame damage, a good shop should be able to fix that so it looks/drives like new. Finding a good shop is the difficult part. I kissed a tree and knocked the front right wheel completely off of the car. My fave body shop fixed it so that the only way to tell was a slight air leak in the right door seal that showed up at high (100+) speeds. They replaced the whole wheel/steering assembly and did some great body work. YMMV They told me that many modern cars are built similar to race cars and designed to break apart in a crash - the outer parts are sacrificed to protect the major components and occupants. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds good. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

09-17-2014, 08:25 AM	#28 (permalink)
mab864 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 482 Drives: 13 Sport 6MT Rep Power: 12	You loose money on all car purchases... it's a fact. Trading cars often is worse of course. I agree with Magic Bus... get the car fixed and see how you feel about it and how it drives. I wouldn't do anything until that part of the deal is done. Then decide if you'd rather have one AWD car to do everything. AWD in CT makes sense, but you will get hosed by trading in. STIs are nice but still a 4 door sedan which was not what I was after. __________________ Berk HFC & CBE, Stillen G3, UpRev & tune by PSI, GTMat, 3M, Swift, StopTech, H&R 20/25, GT-R, 324 whp & 262 torque

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