Intelligent key question..

MeetJoeAsian · 10-10-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

quick question...i noticed this today and i can't figure it out reading the owner's manual.

my car doesnt seem to recognize either one of my intelligent keys without the keys
in the key port.

before i could just sit in the car with the key in my pocket, i hit ENGINE START
and drove off.

this morning i sat in my car as usual, hit the ENGINE START and the LCD says
"NO KEY".

so i inserted my key into the port and drove off.

while i was inside the car during my drive, i shut off the car, pulled my key from
the port and hit ENGINE START and it started without the key in the port.

this afternoon it's back to NO KEY unless i have they key in the port.

any tricks to get it back to not having to have to put the key in the port?

I know with the Toyotas, there is a switch you can turn off the i-key feature and use the fob like a regular fob and it must be inserted...I'm not sure about the Nissans

kenchan · 10-10-2009, 08:54 PM

Never mind, I figured it out. Apparently the 2 conductor wire inside the console is an antenna. Had that unplugged from an install I did earlier this week.

Plugged it back in and now it works like before.

SLICKYz · 09-27-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian

here's a question since there's a thread opened already...kinda a little off topic but has to do with keyfob...sorry, if this is in the manual, then, well, I'm just too lazy to read it, but here goes:

How long/far can you drive the car without the the keyfob inside the car? cuz you can actually drive it once it's been started without the keyfob..

oh, here's another tip for the OP, if your engine is running, and you need to step out of the car for a quick minute (to run into the grocery store, or maybe to warn up your car in the early morning), you can start the car, step out, close the door, and use the keyfob or the button on the door handle to lock the car...I do this a lot when I have to just run in and out somewhere, just so I don't have to restart my car again and my A/C will still be running, AND my car is locked so no one can get in it...I guess you can say there's a benefit to this too: you burn less gas cuz you don't have to restart the car, cuz your car juices more gas when you start the vehicle...then again, if you're gonna be in somewhere for 30 minute, that defeats the whole purpose of saving gas...in that case, turn off your damn car, you're heating up the outdoor damn it...

I read that the even without the i-Key in the vicinity, the car will run until it is shut off. After that, the key needs to be present for it to start again. Yeah it's a little disturbing that if you turn your car on and someone carjacks you, they can travel as far the gas in tank permits. If it's any consolation, atleast you still have your i-Key hahaha.

MeetJoeAsian · 09-29-2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLICKYz

I read that the even without the i-Key in the vicinity, the car will run until it is shut off. After that, the key needs to be present for it to start again. Yeah it's a little disturbing that if you turn your car on and someone carjacks you, they can travel as far the gas in tank permits. If it's any consolation, atleast you still have your i-Key hahaha.

I think it's actually a liability issue, just like if you set up booby traps for buglars...eventhough they are breaking the law, you still cannot harm them...cuz they can sue you....So yes, eventhough a thief is stealing your car, if your car dies in the middle of a highway, and another car hits him and injures him, he can sue the manufacturer....kind of a catch-22

fuzzywuzzy · 09-29-2010, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian

here's a question since there's a thread opened already...kinda a little off topic but has to do with keyfob...sorry, if this is in the manual, then, well, I'm just too lazy to read it, but here goes:

How long/far can you drive the car without the the keyfob inside the car? cuz you can actually drive it once it's been started without the keyfob..

oh, here's another tip for the OP, if your engine is running, and you need to step out of the car for a quick minute (to run into the grocery store, or maybe to warn up your car in the early morning), you can start the car, step out, close the door, and use the keyfob or the button on the door handle to lock the car...I do this a lot when I have to just run in and out somewhere, just so I don't have to restart my car again and my A/C will still be running, AND my car is locked so no one can get in it...I guess you can say there's a benefit to this too: you burn less gas cuz you don't have to restart the car, cuz your car juices more gas when you start the vehicle...then again, if you're gonna be in somewhere for 30 minute, that defeats the whole purpose of saving gas...in that case, turn off your damn car, you're heating up the outdoor damn it...

No it doesn't take more gas to start your car than to leave it running

...where do people get these "facts" ?

SeattleLion · 09-30-2010, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian

I think it's actually a liability issue, just like if you set up booby traps for buglars...eventhough they are breaking the law, you still cannot harm them...cuz they can sue you....So yes, eventhough a thief is stealing your car, if your car dies in the middle of a highway, and another car hits him and injures him, he can sue the manufacturer....kind of a catch-22

The way my Prius worked is that if you had the car turned on (which doesn't necessarily mean the engine is running) and left the car, the car would not go into drive or reverse. It just sat there until someone with the fob returns. It also had proximity door unlocking, but not from a distance. You had to insert your hand into the door handle, then the door unlocked itself. I really liked those features.

SouthArk370Z · 12-22-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy

No it doesn't take more gas to start your car than to leave it running

...where do people get these "facts" ?

. Back in The Good Old Days (when cars had carburetors) it could take quite a bit of gas to start a car, especially if the operator liked to pump the gas pedal. The pedal was mechanically connected to an accelerator pump that would shoot a little extra gas into the manifold with each press of the pedal (even if the battery was out of the car; it would add gas until the fuel bowl was empty if you kept pumping the pedal).
. Not a problem with modern EFI cars (especially ones with "drive-by-wire" gas pedals and auto-start as with a 370Z), but the "fact" lingers on in lore.
.
. There is extra stress on the starter and battery every time you start the car, but I'm guessing that being able to manipulate valve timing greatly reduces that wear & tear (compared to The Good Old Days).
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Youngwolf34 · 08-31-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edeeZee

Let me tell ya a little secret. If you idiotically left your FOBgina, as so many on here call it, in the car, and you happen to press the button below the silver door handle (exterior), it won't let you lock yourself outta the car. Try it my fellow 370 drivers. My Nissan rep at Fontana Neezan demonstrated that feature.

I'm awaiting my rep points...

You know what I been wondering about, lets say I take a nap in my Z during lunch hour. And I turn off the engine and lock my doors with the FOBgina. inside the car. Can someone from outside unlock my door by pressing the button below the door handle ,since the Fobgina is in the car? And rob my *** while I'm asleep?

Fuzzzy · 09-01-2014, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngwolf34

You know what I been wondering about, lets say I take a nap in my Z during lunch hour. And I turn off the engine and lock my doors with the FOBgina. inside the car. Can someone from outside unlock my door by pressing the button below the door handle ,since the Fobgina is in the car? And rob my *** while I'm asleep?

Can't you persuade your boss or a co-worker to assist you with an experiment?

Minhtin · 09-01-2014, 06:08 PM

I remembered when I had to roll down the windows by hand!! Crazy convenience technology.

LennyK · 06-04-2015, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Never mind, I figured it out. Apparently the 2 conductor wire inside the console is an antenna. Had that unplugged from an install I did earlier this week.

Plugged it back in and now it works like before.

Hi Kenchan

I seem to be having the same problem "No Key" (I didn't do any installs)

Could you PLEASE Show or Explain what got UNPLUGGED inside the Console - So I Can Check It and Plug It Back IN...

KrazyD · 06-05-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LennyK

Hi Kenchan

I seem to be having the same problem "No Key" (I didn't do any installs)

Could you PLEASE Show or Explain what got UNPLUGGED inside the Console - So I Can Check It and Plug It Back IN...

If you haven't done any installs recently, you may want to swap the battery in the key fob first to see if that solves it.

KrazyD · 06-05-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LennyK

Hi Kenchan

I seem to be having the same problem "No Key" (I didn't do any installs)

Could you PLEASE Show or Explain what got UNPLUGGED inside the Console - So I Can Check It and Plug It Back IN...

If the battery doesn't solve the fob issue, one of the key fob antennas is located under the center console. Google part "285E5-JK60A" and you'll see a picture of it. Shouldn't be in a place where it can get knocked loose, but stranger things have happened. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

LennyK · 06-07-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazyD

If you haven't done any installs recently, you may want to swap the battery in the key fob first to see if that solves it.

I did the "New" Battery swap in the FOB & still had the "No Key" & "Blinking" Port Lights...
(the "New" battery was from some drug store) - anyway
Got Another "New" Battery at Walmart - put it in / Problem Solved
(moral of the story - not every "New" Battery is a GOOD Battery!)

Im so Glad,

Im Glad

kenchan · 06-07-2015, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LennyK

Hi Kenchan

I seem to be having the same problem "No Key" (I didn't do any installs)

Could you PLEASE Show or Explain what got UNPLUGGED inside the Console - So I Can Check It and Plug It Back IN...

there's an antenna inside the center console for the intelligent key. if that gets undone, it can throw the error icon.
u'll have to pull up the center console to see it.

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10-10-2009, 08:54 PM	#62 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Never mind, I figured it out. Apparently the 2 conductor wire inside the console is an antenna. Had that unplugged from an install I did earlier this week. Plugged it back in and now it works like before.

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Minhtin Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ca Posts: 99 Drives: 14 370z Nismo PW Rep Power: 11	I remembered when I had to roll down the windows by hand!! Crazy convenience technology.