New C&D, 7AT 370Z wicked fast time

edeeZee · 09-28-2009, 09:59 PM

WOW...I made a thread about this a couple months ago. Auto is FAST. Never thought it'd be this way.

All the exotics i.e. Ferrari, Lambo are phasing out manuals. Doesn't this portend to something?

Albeit I drive a manual, a manual is to VHS as a automatic nowadays is to Blueray.

cdawg410 · 09-28-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by edeeZee

WOW...I made a thread about this a couple months ago. Auto is FAST. Never thought it'd be this way.

All the exotics i.e. Ferrari, Lambo are phasing out manuals. Doesn't this portend to something?

Albeit I drive a manual, a manual is to VHS as a automatic nowadays is to Blueray.

Retort: Professional athletes and CEO's don't know how to drive manuals and Danica Patrick is a Indycar driver. I'm not sayin, I'm just saying. They got me to use a computer, I'll be damned if they get me to drive an AT. Better, Faster or otherwise........ THIS IS AMERICA DAMMIT.

theDreamer · 09-28-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edeeZee

All the exotics i.e. Ferrari, Lambo are phasing out manuals. Doesn't this portend to something?

Actual the anaglogy you want is VHS v. DVD, Blu-ray is just higher quality DVD with no extra gains (maybe online connectivity but that can be found in DVD also).

At the quoted line, this is not for the AT v. 6MT debate, but those companies have also spent millions on perfecting the technology. Now Nissan has been working just as hard, and has made a 7AT that I myself almost bought, but there is a rather large difference between what Ferrari/Lambo are doing and what Nissan is doing with the automatics. Will Nissan be there? Someday, but not today.

cdawg410 · 09-28-2009, 10:14 PM

Just so I don't get flamed when I go to bed (I get nightmares and cold sweats). My favorite person on this thread drives a 7AT. It's ALL GOOD, either way you go. I'm just doing a little late night rabble-rousing.

Anecdote: When I was a kid and I was emulating driving, making engine noise with my mouth, you know with the vrrrmm.... vrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, vrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I always had both hands on the make believe steering wheel.

m4a1mustang · 09-28-2009, 10:07 PM

I will always prefer a proper manual transmission, but I can't deny the superiority of the modern automatic transmission. Not too many years ago the ATs would lose one or two tenths per shift to their manual counterparts. Not anymore...

Hell, the first 370 I drove was a 7AT... and I LOVED it.

kenchan · 09-28-2009, 10:07 PM

i wouldn't go as far as comparing AT's to electronically controlled double clutch manuals (SMG/DSG, etc).

those are more like manuals than conventional AT's. when the clutch is engaged, it is
engaged. does not slush around.

kenchan · 09-28-2009, 10:17 PM

when i was a kid, all my vrrroom vrroooom sounds were MT... even had a poor shift into 2nd gear with a slight slip on the clutch sound. lol

rudi · 09-28-2009, 10:29 PM

If the AT wasn't as good as it is, there wouldn't be a debate.

fairladyZ34 · 09-28-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rudi

If the AT wasn't as good as it is, there wouldn't be a debate.

preach on preacher

VCuomo · 09-29-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rudi

If the AT wasn't as good as it is, there wouldn't be a debate.

And with the reported 6MT synchro problems that seem to be happening, there really is no debate.

Sorry, couldn't resist...

Ahem...on a more serious note, I've owned plenty of manuals, and currently own this manual:

All I can say is I have just as much fun in my 370Z with 7AT, especially with (or maybe because of) the tiptronic shifter and paddleshifters!

rudi · 09-29-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ34

preach on preacher

Not preaching, just sticking up for the autos. Thats it, not going to enter into any more AT V MT discussions.

fuct · 09-29-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

when i was a kid, all my vrrroom vrroooom sounds were MT... even had a poor shift into 2nd gear with a slight slip on the clutch sound. lol

best line in the thread...

billydsz · 09-29-2009, 01:04 PM

I drive the 7AT because I'm too lazy to clutch. I've said it and I feel better.

semtex · 09-29-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz

I drive the 7AT because I'm too lazy to clutch. I've said it and I feel better.

LOL. Rep pts for honesty!

Z-WHIZ · 09-29-2009, 02:29 PM

It's kind of funny that this was posted the same time that autoweek ripped apart the automatic.

09-28-2009, 10:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
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09-28-2009, 09:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 266	WOW...I made a thread about this a couple months ago. Auto is FAST. Never thought it'd be this way. All the exotics i.e. Ferrari, Lambo are phasing out manuals. Doesn't this portend to something? Albeit I drive a manual, a manual is to VHS as a automatic nowadays is to Blueray.

09-28-2009, 10:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
cdawg410 Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: alexandria, va Posts: 238 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 16	Just so I don't get flamed when I go to bed (I get nightmares and cold sweats). My favorite person on this thread drives a 7AT. It's ALL GOOD, either way you go. I'm just doing a little late night rabble-rousing. Anecdote: When I was a kid and I was emulating driving, making engine noise with my mouth, you know with the vrrrmm.... vrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, vrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I always had both hands on the make believe steering wheel.

09-28-2009, 10:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i wouldn't go as far as comparing AT's to electronically controlled double clutch manuals (SMG/DSG, etc). those are more like manuals than conventional AT's. when the clutch is engaged, it is engaged. does not slush around.

09-28-2009, 10:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	when i was a kid, all my vrrroom vrroooom sounds were MT... even had a poor shift into 2nd gear with a slight slip on the clutch sound. lol

09-28-2009, 10:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
rudi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 306 Drives: 370Z Australian Spec Rep Power: 16	If the AT wasn't as good as it is, there wouldn't be a debate.

09-29-2009, 01:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 16	I drive the 7AT because I'm too lazy to clutch. I've said it and I feel better.

09-29-2009, 02:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
Z-WHIZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philly Posts: 115 Drives: 370 Base Rep Power: 16	It's kind of funny that this was posted the same time that autoweek ripped apart the automatic.