Not preaching, just sticking up for the autos. Thats it, not going to enter into any more AT V MT discussions.;)

I read this article a couple months ago on C&D concerning the speed of the 7at.
Its weird this is coming out as new info now.

I luv the 7at. Its fun as f%&k n the FORMULA 1, magnesium paddle-shifts are wicked.

Its the BEST auto I encountered. I test drove 4 other competitors in auto and this was by Far the best auto.
I recently got a chance to drive a dsg gti. The Z auto imo was better. More power I think tipped that scale.

A quick review, the best 0-60 time I've seen for the A/T is 4.6 (Car and Driver) and the best for the 6MT is 4.7 (Motor Trend). The gap between the two is pretty insignificant, though I must admit that the performance improvements have come along way for automatic transmissions. If we could run the two side by side we'd get a better feel for the actual difference. The 6MT driver has NO room for error and I think that sums up the bottom line between the two transmissions.

Why the 7AT over the 6MT.

The 7AT is "one" more.

/this-is-spinal-tap-movie

But comparing MT to C&D is a bit apples-to-oranges. Car and Driver has reviewed both and got a 4.9 (13.5 @ 106 mph 1/4) out of the manual and a 4.6 (13.1 @ 108 in 1/4) out of the auto. Doesn't make sense but I assume they are running at the same place/elevation. Ambient Temp changes can make a small difference but it would have to be significant to make up that much of a difference. Somehow Nissan has pulled off something with a slushbox no one else ever has as far as I know.

best line in the thread...:tup:

I drive the 7AT because I'm too lazy to clutch. I've said it and I feel better. :tiphat:

It's nice you took the best 6MT clocking and compared to the more consistent auto time. Most 6MT's(from mags) are clocking around 5 sec to 60 and the quarter in 13.4 and higher. Of course naturally the manual will require more attention....but in the real world no one gives that much attention unless you are a seasoned drag racer.

3-4 tenths of a sec(and a 108mph trap) is a pretty significant gap to me.....especially since it can be repeated pretty easily over and over.

LOL. Rep pts for honesty! :bowrofl:

It's kind of funny that this was posted the same time that autoweek ripped apart the automatic.

You've seen 0-60 times for the 7AT at 4.6s routinely before? I think this is the best I've seen from the 7AT.

Consider me a ninny.:rolleyes:

FWIW, the 2 fastest stock strip times I've seen so far were 7ATs, a 13.1 and a 13.2.

The only way to resolve the performance difference between the two is obviously race side by side at the track with a driver who can drive a manual. This will never happen in the magazines, so we'll never know unless two owners go to the track and test it. I believe that any gain made by the automatic will be in the first sixty feet, after that it would be fairly equal with a slight advantage going to the manual in the top end. Steve, please correct me if I'm wrong here so I don't have to change my order and get a 7AT instead.

Now that said, my drag racing days at the track are over. Any spirited driving would be from a roll on the interstate or divided highway for a short distance instead of light to light. Understand, I do not condone street racing of any type, made enough poor judgement calls during the nineties and was very fortunate my friends and I in the Norfolk-Va Beach area never had an accident or hurt anyone. Any Z rolling up to on me on the highway would get a respectful thumbs up and an invite to pull over and talk about our cars. Chances of that happening in Maine are slim however, I think only four have been sold so far in the entire state.

Am not purchasing a 370Z to compete against my fellow Z owners regardless of transmission choice! Other performance cars that may challenge me in a responsible manner, now that's a different story. "You run what you brung" :)

so ya i just got back from the bath room and had a really good poop.

hahha nice man.


So which one?

Ghost Shit
You know you've shit. There's shit on the toilet paper, but no shit in the bowl.

Teflon Coated Shit
Comes out so slick, clean and easy that you don't feel it. No traces of shit on the toilet paper, you have to look in the bowl to be sure you did it!

Gooey Shit
This has the consistency of hot tar. You wipe your ass 12 times and it still doesn't come clean. You end up putting toilet paper in your underwear so you don't stain it. This shit leaves permanent skid marks in the toilet.

Second Thought Shit
You're all done wiping your ass and you're about to stand up when you realize it.....you've got some more.

Pop a Vein in Your Forehead Shit
This kind is the kind of shit that killed Elvis. It doesn't come until you're all sweaty, trembling and purple from straining so hard.

Bali Belly Shit
You shit so much you lose 5 kilos.

Right Now Shit
You better be within 10 seconds of a toilet. Usually it has its head out before you get your pants down.

King Kong or Commode Choker Shit
This shit is so big that you know it won't go down the toilet unless you break it into smaller chunks. A coat hanger works well. This kind of shit usually happens at someone else's house.

Wet Cheeks Shit
This shit hits the water sideways and makes a BIG splash that gets your *** wet.

Wish Shit
You sit there all cramped up and fart a few times, but no shit!

Cement Block or Oh God Shit
You wish you'd gotten a spinal block before you shit.

Snake Shit
This shit is fairly soft and about as big around as your thumb and at least three feet long.

Cork Shit (Also Known as Floater Shit)
Even after the third flush, it's still floating in there. My god! How do I get rid of it? This shit usually happens at someone else's house.

Mexican Food Shit (also called Screamers)
You'll know it's alright to eat again when your ******* stops burning.

Beer Drunk Shit
This happens the day after the night before. Normally your shit doesn't smell too bad, but this shit is BAD. Usually there's somebody standing outside to use the bathroom. This kind of shit also usually happens at someone else's house.

The Frightened Turtle
The kind of shit that just pokes its head out then quickly goes back in

The Bungee Shit
The kind of shit that just hangs off your ass before it falls into the water.

The Ring of Fire Shit
The kind of shit where you eat really spicy food and your ******* feels like the inside of a cigarette lighter.

The Crippler
The kind of shit where you have to sit on the toilet so long your legs go numb from the waist down.

The Big Bobber
The kind of shit that no matter how many times you flush it always floats back to the surface.

The Shitty Shitty Bang Bang
The kind of shit that hits you when you're trapped in your car in a traffic jam.

The Incredible Hulk Shit
The king of shit that sits in the toilet overnight and mysteriously expands to twice it's normal size.

The Jack the Ripper Shit
The kind of shit that yanks out the hair of your ass as it pushes its way out.

The Party Pooper
The giant shit you take at a party. And when you flush the toilet, you watch in horror as the water starts to rise.

The Toxic Gas Shit
The kind of shit that makes you pass out and fall of the toilet before you finish, and then you wake up in some strange South American town.

Dirty Bowl Shit
The kind of shit that comes out in a million pieces a second, reminiscent of an avalanche - but with rocket propulsion, and splatters all over the toilet bowl.

The Windy City Shit
When you sit down, and fart for so long and hard that you no longer need to take a shit.

Oh Shit! Shit
You shit so much and wipe your ass so furiously you run out of toilet paper and you say OH SHIT!

The Never Ending Shit
It's the shit that keeps running out of your ass like pea, and just when you start wiping your ass your stomach gargles and splash, more shit runs out. This always happens after eating at Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Ouch That Hurt Shit
The type of shit that leaves you feeling like you just hoped onto a bicycle without a seat. Sensation usually lasts hours.

A **** that'll even make Bono proud.








South Park reference

Man Togo, I thought that sh/t only happened to me.

This auto, dsg autos, and double clutch autos will pull faster times on a stock car.
This has been the trend over the last few years. Autos have been getting better and better.
1980's- manuals avg being faster by 1.2 seconds.
1990-s- gap began closing in the early 90' that by mid 90's autos were only .05sec slower.
Early 2000's we began seeing autos that would match acceleration times of the manual or be .01 second slower. Porsche, aston martin vehicles and ZF trannies changed the game on autos.
By the middle 2000's you began seeing autos that beat manuals by .02 to .05 seconds.
The manual still is superior in standard mod applications and is the only tranny of choice in drifting sports..
But on stock motors and on ultra advanced racing cars like formula 1. Autos are now superior for track times. Also in formula 1 and several other types of extremely high speed racing sports. Most use automated manuals. Meaning, paddle shift n no clutch.

I love the manual, but if I lived in a major urban area where I drove the car daily I would have opted for the auto.

The fastest times, whether in a mag or on this forum, have all been the 7AT's and all are pretty consistent with one another.

The trap speeds we are seeing do not agree with your theory.....unless you are talking about speeds greater than 110, which may have a slight chance of holding true, but I doubt it.

really we are still going even after my poop?

:icon17:

12.8009 @ 110.33 Best pass with 370z sport with 7 AT.
12.95 @ 111.69 @ second best pass/

The car will run 13.3 to 13.4 all day when the moter is hot.
The olny way it goes into the 12.s if it the moter is slightly warm. ties preasure at 29 psig.and it is cold outside. Trust me i know
Time slip is posted in drag section 12.8 @ 110.33.
I removed all weight from the car including the passenger seat. spare tire mats ect. 4.08 gear, stillen intake exhaut and cats. It ran 13.201 @ 107.9 with just the intake.
Did they take the car to the drag strip or test it in a parking lot,
How did they get traction with the stock tires. (1.976 is my best 60 ft times on a fulley prepeted drag strip i was the 4th car down the track. I heard stories that they rolled the car 1 ft before they started to time it. Im pushing close to 308 to 310 rwhp. how does a car with 266 rwhp base line go 13.1's. I dynoed my car after every mod. Im also 100 lb lighter that a stock 370 z.
What would you estimate , my 0 to 60 times to be?
Look at some of the times posted in 370 drag times. They seem to be more realistic.
The harder you push the 7 AT the harder it shifts.
I have a gtm valve body and torque converter coming soon,
Have you ever tried to hold the gas and brake pedal for a good launch at the track. will not happen as the ecu bogs the motor at 2000 rpm.
I wish that i could race a stock 370z 7 AT at the drag strip and post the video and the times. I do not think that you would see a 13.1 pass.
You would see something like a 13.5 or higher.
Do not get me wrong i think that it is a great car but its not that fast at the track.
did they use a device to get the times ( g teck ect.)

^^^ I ran a 13.1 stock..

For one there are alot of you with the new Z both manual and automatic.Also a lot of hot air from both about this and that and he said she said bull!Between rumors,claims,magazine reports,bragging and bull$hit I have yet to see one time slip posted from the track to claim fame to any story?

You might want to take a look around the forum, there is a nice section for racing where people have been posting plenty.

Here ya go, chotyme's slip!

Bone stock 1/4 for the 370...auto! - ChicagoZ.com- A Forum for Everything Nissan Z, 350z, 370z, Infiniti G35, G37, GTR, and MORE!

Nice find!

Thanks for the tip.Was unaware.
I'll be looking for that 12.8 et. time slip?

The slips are around. If you can't find them you aren't looking hard enough. That's the only way we are arriving at these conclusions...no blanket statements here.

I don't think anyone is claiming 12.8 stock. I see no problem getting there with HFCs, cold air intake, and catback. That's been demonstrated to get somewhere around 25 to 35 ponies or more on dynos on several cars here.

Edit: here's Z eliminator's slip....

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/t...time-slips.jpg

Different tracks and conditions mean different times. Just because a stock auto 370z got 13.1 at one track doesn't mean that in canada, where you are, it would get the same 13.1. Every track is different which yields different times. For example, here in Vegas our track sucks and people get much slower times than one would think. You go a few hundred miles over to Arizona's track and times there are much quicker. It's all dependent of the track as well as the conditions of that particular day. So it's not some odd thing that stock Z's are running 13.1 while your moddified Z is going 12.8 dispite all that you have done.

I'm a little shocked too. I mean with all the possibilities of types of **** you had and all the mystery behind it, yet the controversy of 7AT vs 6MT continues. Oh well

I believe us ole school enthusiasts believe a real sports car has a manual trans.Thats the way they originated and it was a given through the years.I mean a sports car with an automatic trans is for the young techy's that never drove a manual trans for the most part.Some I see on here are buying manual and learning which is a cool thing.
The die hard sports car enthusiast track driving for the most part are driving manual.
Either way it is a nice car and alot of fun to drive.

^I have owned 7 sports cars - all manual. I once thought like you, but this will be my first auto.

I didn't intend this to be a MT vs AT thread. I was just surprised at how darn fast the 0-60 time was for the 7AT. 4.6s is very quick. That being said, I wouldn't give up my 6MT to shave a few tenths of a second from that time. It's too much fun to have the intimate feel of the car that an MT yields.

as long as you enjoy what your driving

Don't worry about other people. Get what you want and enjoy what you get.

Just a heads up; don't confuse the 7AT with computer controlled, dual-clutch, sequential manual transmissions. Just an FYI...