Funny thing about oil....especially synthetic..

ZeeBabar · 08-28-2014, 06:39 AM

Maybe you guys are too young to know or remember but cars have been going over 100k miles, even 200k miles, long before synthetics or fancy filters and such. Just Dino oil and much simpler oil filters.

It's One thing to want to use synthetics to change oil less often and another to do it because it is better for the ca. Are we not overdoing it when we buy a Z and really plan on driving it for 3-4 years? There are discussions about redline versus Mobil 1 and various filters and on and on...

It's like arguing one set of head phones (costing a hundred dollars more) is better than another set of headphones when we could not ever tell the difference.

I bet no one could drive a Z and tell that this one is a better Z than the next because this one has synthetic in it.

ZeeBabar · 08-28-2014, 06:40 AM

A better analogy, sort of like arguing that a razor with 5-7 blade gives you a better shave and is better for your face than a double blade razor.

DjSquall · 08-28-2014, 07:01 AM

Some of us are planning on keeping the Z's for a little longer than 3-4 years. Like.... Forever.

Also, engine technology has evolved since those days as well. Yes, regular oil will still lubricate fine on a regular basis, but synthetic is better and tougher. And lasts longer.

It's like comparing a honda civic vs a lamborghini. Both have four wheels and get from A to B. But one is just way better than another.

Debiandog · 08-28-2014, 07:06 AM

I do it for peace of mind. I have been running synthetics near 20 years and when I was drag racing cars many people blew motors using the same high rev configuration I did yet my motor stayed running. To me it is worth the cost knowing I will have less friction, better coverage on parts, smoother flow, etc.... I don't sweat it staying up near the redline.

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watson853 · 08-28-2014, 07:54 AM

Isn't one of the main reason's you should use synthetic in our cars do to heat. Dyno oil degrades really fast once it gets into the 240+ degree range which our cars can easily achieve once pushed really hard. I'm sure someone on here will chime in and correct me.

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H2O_Doc · 08-28-2014, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853

Isn't the main reason you should use synthetic in our cars do to heat. Dyno oil degrades really fast once it gets into the 240+ degree range which our cars can easily achieve once pushed really hard. I'm sure someone on here will chime in and correct me.

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That's why I use cooking oil. Not the cheap stuff, not canola, my Z only gets high grade almond oil. Sure, other folks say I'm being bourgeois, but my exhaust smells like amaretto; who can beat that.

JARblue · 08-28-2014, 08:38 AM

We do not need another oil thread on this forum...

onzedge · 08-28-2014, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

Maybe you guys are too young to know or remember but cars have been going over 100k miles, even 200k miles, long before synthetics or fancy filters and such. Just Dino oil and much simpler oil filters.

It's One thing to want to use synthetics to change oil less often and another to do it because it is better for the ca. Are we not overdoing it when we buy a Z and really plan on driving it for 3-4 years? There are discussions about redline versus Mobil 1 and various filters and on and on...

It's like arguing one set of head phones (costing a hundred dollars more) is better than another set of headphones when we could not ever tell the difference.

I bet no one could drive a Z and tell that this one is a better Z than the next because this one has synthetic in it.

My Bose QC15 headphones are better than yours.

So are my Sony Studio Monitor headphones.

b15 · 08-28-2014, 08:43 AM

Tolerances are much tighter now than 'back in the day'. It's the same reason why cars of yester years run much thicker oil too. You don't have to run synthetic, but if you are truly driving your car let us know how dino holds up to the abuse and heat this car makes when driven hard.

Dino oil, no second car....sounds like you're a cheap person.

madwi · 08-28-2014, 08:46 AM

No hooker analogy today?

b15 · 08-28-2014, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

My Bose QC15 headphones are better than yours.

So are my Sony Studio Monitor headphones.

I don't get it!!!!

My Philips headphones from the dollar store produce sound, why bother with the Bose

onzedge · 08-28-2014, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15

Tolerances are much tighter now than 'back in the day'. It's the same reason why cars of yester years run much thicker oil too. You don't have to run synthetic, but if you are truly driving your car let us know how dino holds up to the abuse and heat this car makes when driven hard.

Dino oil, no second car....sounds like you're a cheap person.

(Rep Freely)

onzedge · 08-28-2014, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15

I don't get it!!!!

My Philips headphones from the dollar store produce sound, why bother with the Bose

I traded Marriott points for the Bose. They are my sanctuary when travelling...

cigarclifford · 08-28-2014, 08:50 AM

Question of the morning. Have you ever read any other posts on the 370Z forum besides the ones that you post and create ?

onzedge · 08-28-2014, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford

Question of the morning. Have you ever read any other posts on the 370Z forum besides the ones that you post and create ?

08-28-2014, 06:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
ZeeBabar Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 423 Drives: 2006 350z Rep Power: 0	Funny thing about oil....especially synthetic.. Maybe you guys are too young to know or remember but cars have been going over 100k miles, even 200k miles, long before synthetics or fancy filters and such. Just Dino oil and much simpler oil filters. It's One thing to want to use synthetics to change oil less often and another to do it because it is better for the ca. Are we not overdoing it when we buy a Z and really plan on driving it for 3-4 years? There are discussions about redline versus Mobil 1 and various filters and on and on... It's like arguing one set of head phones (costing a hundred dollars more) is better than another set of headphones when we could not ever tell the difference. I bet no one could drive a Z and tell that this one is a better Z than the next because this one has synthetic in it.

08-28-2014, 06:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
ZeeBabar Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 423 Drives: 2006 350z Rep Power: 0	A better analogy, sort of like arguing that a razor with 5-7 blade gives you a better shave and is better for your face than a double blade razor. binary0x01 and janglez like this.

08-28-2014, 07:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
DjSquall A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tottenham, ON Age: 36 Posts: 1,340 Drives: My first car Rep Power: 22	Some of us are planning on keeping the Z's for a little longer than 3-4 years. Like.... Forever. Also, engine technology has evolved since those days as well. Yes, regular oil will still lubricate fine on a regular basis, but synthetic is better and tougher. And lasts longer. It's like comparing a honda civic vs a lamborghini. Both have four wheels and get from A to B. But one is just way better than another. TreeSemdyZee and Pintsize725 like this. __________________ My Z did p0rn

08-28-2014, 07:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Debiandog Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 94 Drives: 10 Blackcherry 370Z Rep Power: 11	I do it for peace of mind. I have been running synthetics near 20 years and when I was drag racing cars many people blew motors using the same high rev configuration I did yet my motor stayed running. To me it is worth the cost knowing I will have less friction, better coverage on parts, smoother flow, etc.... I don't sweat it staying up near the redline. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD __________________ 2010 Black Cherry 370Z - Sports Touring - Ark Grip V2 / AAM CAI R line / 20mm-25mm spacers / UpRev tuned to 310HP

08-28-2014, 07:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	Funny thing about oil....especially synthetic.. Isn't one of the main reason's you should use synthetic in our cars do to heat. Dyno oil degrades really fast once it gets into the 240+ degree range which our cars can easily achieve once pushed really hard. I'm sure someone on here will chime in and correct me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Last edited by watson853; 08-28-2014 at 08:24 AM.

08-28-2014, 08:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	We do not need another oil thread on this forum... onzedge, cigarclifford and Spooler like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

08-28-2014, 08:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	Tolerances are much tighter now than 'back in the day'. It's the same reason why cars of yester years run much thicker oil too. You don't have to run synthetic, but if you are truly driving your car let us know how dino holds up to the abuse and heat this car makes when driven hard. Dino oil, no second car....sounds like you're a cheap person. onzedge and watson853 like this.

08-28-2014, 08:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
madwi A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Michigan Posts: 31,410 Drives: Granma red Z Rep Power: 2684429	No hooker analogy today? Masterbeatty, cigarclifford and Fuzzzy like this.

08-28-2014, 08:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
cigarclifford A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Cali State Hospital Posts: 13,351 Drives: 2017 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 458713	Question of the morning. Have you ever read any other posts on the 370Z forum besides the ones that you post and create ? kenchan, onzedge, JARblue and 3 others like this. __________________ -Clifford

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