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2012s on lots....where are the oil coolers?

So, now that we finally have confirmation on the style of cooler to be offered on the Z, I want to offer up some thoughts. There is going to be

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Old 10-18-2011, 07:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So, now that we finally have confirmation on the style of cooler to be offered on the Z, I want to offer up some thoughts. There is going to be a lot of bickering on both sides before long I am sure, but based on my experience with the handful of cars I've owned, here are some thoughts.
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The Oil-to-water cooler will probably NOT be sufficient for serious track use. On the other hand, guys that don't have much experience out there will probably find it perfectly suitable. We will almost certainly have water temps as the concern now, rather than oil temps. I am curious to see if Nissan adjusts limp mode, as hitting 280* oil temps on a water cooled system would generate huge problems....
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On the other hand, it is absolutely excellent for most users. You get great daily-driveability, nice warm oil, and none of the (HUGE) risk that an air-cooled system generates. Apologies to those doing this, but it's absolutely an awful decision to run an air-cooled system without a pressure gauge. The risk of catastrophic engine failure from a fitting issue or a rock is huge, and definitely not worth it. The water-cooled system will only result in a coolant leak in the same situation--not really a big deal. Another nice perk is upgrading a radiator can help, and is not nearly as much a warranty concern as an air-to-oil cooler.
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It remains to be seen what other changes have been made to the system-- I am interested to see for sure whether this system just taps straight into the old radiator setup, or if they have changed anything else...regardless, this marks a huge step forward for Z drivers. Truly a shame Nissan didn't pony up the extra $30 a unit to put this on from the start...would have been a lot better for everyone.




Looks like Nissan has gone with an oil to water cooler tapped of the current system.

Edit: page 5 for pics, reproduced here

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Oh, did they add a factory-standard oil cooler for 2012? That will be interesting.
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I was under the impression there were no changes for the 2012 model? Where did they say an oil cooler is standard now?
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I was under the impression there were no changes for the 2012 model? Where did they say an oil cooler is standard now?
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Hmm, will be interesting to see how the retrofit options work out for the factory oil:water and brake cooling ducts.
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Hmm, will be interesting to see how the retrofit options work out for the factory oil:water and brake cooling ducts.
I checked on that... Nissan is already saying no retrofit on the previous Z. They said they changed the plumbing on the Z so they won't retrofit the part. As for adding your own they didn't mention.

I'm getting the GTM oil cooler anyway but for those that were hoping for a nissan retrofit? Forget about. I think they are afraid that if they retrofit? They will have to warranty the product and don't want to. I see nissan going the toyota route with hybrids and the Z being electric and the END OF NISMO. The poser car of tomorrow. Lol. Anyway, get your Z's while they still have a name.
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By plumbing, they probably mean the coolant lines. I am pretty sure we can make it work, despite that. I seriously doubt that Nissan changed internal plumbing on the block to avoid retrofits.
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Ladies and gentleman, below I give you... the 2012 Nissan 370Z OEM water-to-oil cooler. Sorry for the dark picture, but this is from a dealer who was nice enough to put a 2012 Z on the lift and snap the pic.

2012 Nissan Z Oil Cooler part #21300-SS370

2012 Nissan Z Chassis Brake Cooling Kit part #E4420-1EA00
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I checked on that... Nissan is already saying no retrofit on the previous Z. They said they changed the plumbing on the Z so they won't retrofit the part. As for adding your own they didn't mention.

I'm getting the GTM oil cooler anyway but for those that were hoping for a nissan retrofit? Forget about. I think they are afraid that if they retrofit? They will have to warranty the product and don't want to. I see nissan going the toyota route with hybrids and the Z being electric and the END OF NISMO. The poser car of tomorrow. Lol. Anyway, get your Z's while they still have a name.
Who at Nissan did you talk to?
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Head of the service dept at my dealership.
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I checked on that... Nissan is already saying no retrofit on the previous Z. They said they changed the plumbing on the Z so they won't retrofit the part. As for adding your own they didn't mention.

I'm getting the GTM oil cooler anyway but for those that were hoping for a nissan retrofit? Forget about. I think they are afraid that if they retrofit? They will have to warranty the product and don't want to. I see nissan going the toyota route with hybrids and the Z being electric and the END OF NISMO. The poser car of tomorrow. Lol. Anyway, get your Z's while they still have a name.
I have been running the GTM oil cooler for a year and a half and I am quite pleased with it -- for what it is worth.
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Ignore the part number for the brake cooling parts, the guy misunderstood me and looked up the chassis brace kit (Nismo).
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Anyone have their hands on a 2012 Owner's Manual? I'd like to see the listed oil capacity compared with previous years. That would give us an idea of whether or not there's an oil cooler and what its capacity is.
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