Hellaflush is now... Illegal?!?!

FPenvy

pretty much everything that is "stance" is unsafe.

tons of negative camber which reduces the tires contact patch resulting in little to no traction = unsafe.

tires that are many sizes too small exposing the wheel and even sealing to the inside step of the wheels sometimes for desired looks. all resulting in a raised chance of popping the bead and having esentially a blow-out while driving = unsafe

super low hardened suspension (non-air ride) to where there is little to no give. this susepension then offers no give or abosrption of the bumps of normal driving which can result in bouncing and losing control of the vehicle = unsafe.

shall i continue? lol

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Haboob

Air suspension can tear causing an accident.

Screws can come loose, causing an accident.



Let's ban everything that anyone could like! Yeah!


Also, with my wheels having greater than OEM offsets, they're considered "stanced" (just not super duper stanced, just flush with the edges of the car) so... that's unsafe? Didn't feel unsafe flying around the mountain this weekend.

vividracing

On that premise, tires can tear causing an accident too, so lets make them illegal! lol.

We arent talking about having a little camber because of offset wheels. Its tires that are sitting at an extreme angle not making contact with the road, is the safety issue.

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FPenvy

well with you behind the wheel everyone else felt unsafe

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Z1NONLY

"Tons" needs a definition, and the definition needs to be demonstrably unsafe.

My Z runs between 2.5 and 3 degrees of negative camber for track use. That amount is safe in my application and effective for handling purposes as well as mitigating outside-edge tire wear from traction-limit turning.

My camber is out of spec from Nissan's recommended range. OEM specs may become the definition of "safe" limits if these laws come our way.

I have no experience with going with a wheel that's wider than the tire specs. But I have ran tires that were (one size) too wide for the wheels I mounted them on (according to tire specs)

I suspect that nailing down "safe" with tire seals and the beads may be easier than defining "unsafe" camber.

The only way to get "no give" would be to use solid materials all the way to the pavement. (No tires, no bushings etc)

I don't think "no give" is the legal definition you are looking for.


Again, I'm not a fan of "stance" I think it's a waste of money. However I take great care not to demand laws that outlaw things just because I don't like them or think they are stupid.

If we can come up with definitions that go to someone endangering others on the road, great.

But banning tastelessness is a very slippery slope. I think it's particularly unwise for automotive enthusiasts set foot on such a slope.