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But to the contrary it is unsafe. They are out of bounds of the vehicles designed purpose. Given you accept the risk everyday to walk out of your house and

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Old 08-13-2014, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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But to the contrary it is unsafe. They are out of bounds of the vehicles designed purpose. Given you accept the risk everyday to walk out of your house and drive with all the crazy people on the road. If they are being trailored back and forth to a show then by all means. But when you are driving it on the road especially at the most extreme edge it becomes a hazard.
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i'm so happy right now. a thread full of my people. all stance haters aka people with good taste

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i'm so happy right now. a thread full of my people. all stance haters aka people with good taste

I do feel pretty bad for that one guy thats gonna show up and be mad about it... And you know its gonna happen. Theres always THAT guy
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I do feel pretty bad for that one guy thats gonna show up and be mad about it... And you know its gonna happen. Theres always THAT guy
i welcome him. usually i'm THAT guy who goes into stance threads and just destroy them all. at least now i can tag out and let someone else have some fun
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We shouldn't be so happy. Their definition of Hellaflush, while correct, also sounds like it would include ANY lowered vehicles. I would not define my car as hellaflush. I have stock camber and my tires fit the rims, however, I am tucking a little front and rear. A police officer might decide that my car is hellaflush anyways and ticket me, or worse.

Here's the part that I don't like...

Changes to the suspension geometry
The majority of vehicles have lowered anomalies on the adjustment of camber 1 . Indeed, the adjustment of camber is not provided on several vehicle models, making it impossible to align the wheels of the vehicle according to the manufacturer's specifications. To compensate, the suspension has to work outside the range for which it was designed, reducing the handling and stability of the vehicle and the area of contact with the road.
Change the geometry of the suspension of a vehicle reduces its maneuverability and safety. Furthermore, it is prohibited to use components too rigid suspension or insufficient travel. It is also forbidden to modify a vehicle to the point where the tires touch a vehicle component or part of the vehicle body touches the road in normal driving conditions.
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I DIDNT TOUCH YOUR DRUMBSET! Im all sweaty cause i was watching cops
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They need a concrete definition of "unsafe".

If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea.

"Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws.

So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe".

...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush.
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They need a concrete definition of "unsafe".

If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea.

"Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws.

So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe".

...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush.
If i were to guess, since they are basing this on the vehicle being unsafe, they are talking about the tire issue not contacting the road. If that were the case, the smart thing to do would be put something into effect with percentages. Meaning, if more than 50% of your tire is not making contact with the road, you're screwed. That would make sense
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If i were to guess, since they are basing this on the vehicle being unsafe, they are talking about the tire issue not contacting the road. If that were the case, the smart thing to do would be put something into effect with percentages. Meaning, if more than 50% of your tire is not making contact with the road, you're screwed. That would make sense
But 49% of a 315/40 18 is still more contact patch than 51% of 175/80 15 econo-box tire?
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But 49% of a 315/40 18 is still more contact patch than 51% of 175/80 15 econo-box tire?
Right, but are you forgetting that tires are made to perform flat on the ground. Sidewalls stretch and grip the road, grooves in the tire divert water to better handling in rain. With half the tire off the ground, it cant do those thing, not to mention putting twice the stress on the inside sidewall (which is only designed to handle a certain weight limit) So, ill take 100% of a 175/80 over 30% of a 315 any day.
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Right, but are you forgetting that tires are made to perform flat on the ground. Sidewalls stretch and grip the road, grooves in the tire divert water to better handling in rain. With half the tire off the ground, it cant do those thing, not to mention putting twice the stress on the inside sidewall (which is only designed to handle a certain weight limit) So, ill take 100% of a 175/80 over 30% of a 315 any day.
also throw in the fact that typically the outside 1/3 of the tire tread block is the real part designed for traction.

on a stance vehicle thats the first part that gets pulled away from the pavement.

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Well when you've got a tire that's 12" wide, and only 3" of that is making contact with the road, i can see where they're coming from. Doesnt take much for some rain to hit the ground and stability goes right out the window.. On the plus side.. Now would be a good time to hit up the Quebec classifieds for some used 19x12's lol
That can be said about a lot of styles though. If the car is too low it poses a problem, too high: problem, etc.

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Has it always not been? I thought your headlights could not be lower then 21 inches off the ground.
That's not law everywhere. Well, maybe in the Nazi state of Canada it is. They should just consider it part of California. 'Tards.
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That can be said about a lot of styles though. If the car is too low it poses a problem, too high: problem, etc.
You're absolutely right.. And they are all UNSAFE lol. No matter how much we dont wanna admit it, just about every law thats made, theres a good reason for it. I see NO valid argument that can be said about having just the inner lip of your tire touching the road NOT be a bad idea on the road.

But i welcome someone to try
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