More info on the next 370Z

Davey

Well yeah but to be fair, Acura's lineup is awful. They have an upscale Civic, an outdated upscale Accord, a couple of ginormous boats, a few SUV's...

Cmike2780

Up until Hyundai's recent models, I wasn't really a fan either. About 20 years ago their cars were worthless than scrap metal. I still remember my uncle's Excel that I swear I could rip apart with a butter knife. 10 years ago, their styling was terrible, but build quality was on par with some American cars. With the market collapse, people in the US started buying them because they were relatively less expensive than their counterparts and they offered a lengthy warranty compared to others (5-year bumper-to-bumper with a 10-year powertrain). That's a huge plus for most consumers. People who just needed a car to get them from A to B swallowed them up and the rest is history. This is pretty much how Nissan and Toyota gained footing in the 80's and 90's.

Word of mouth just started to spread and most of their line-up surprisingly started becoming more reliable. About 4-5 years ago, I think they really up'd the ante and came out with bolder styling and better build quality. My wife had an '04 Santa-fe which we just traded in for a new Tucson. I gotta say, I'm truly impressed with the overall improvement in build quality over her old car. It's night and day and I would honestly consider placing Hyundai on the list of companies if I were buying a new car now. I sat in a new Sonata & Santa-Fe Sport in the dealership and it was a lot nicer than what Nissan, Toyota, Mazda or Honda has to offer so far. The Genesis Coupe is still meh...but it looks like they're at least headed in the right direction. Only issue will all this is pricing. Hyundai is no longer the cheap/bargain alternative. It's definitely more in-line with other companies now and the price points show it.

The badging is used by companies to charge higher premiums for certain cars. It makes sense in the US because of the way our cars are priced. Some companies like Toyota for example, have models that overlap if they didn't separate from Lexus. Rather than cannibalizing sales from one model to another, it makes more sense to have a standalone company that offers more of a niche luxury market. This can be beneficial to companies with a large model portfolio. It also has a lot to do with being able to create costly dealerships outlets. It's why Hyundai is still on the fence about separating it's Genesis line-up. With only a 3 or so models so far, it doesn't bode well on the logistics side to construct a new network of dealerships. In the UK, the market is significantly different. They frankly have different taste when it comes to cars and more often flock to smaller cars. Luxury brands are a bit more difficult to introduce in the UK especially when you have established brands with better pedigree right next door.

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Firebase99

I'm writing from my phone otherwise would have clipped this. What you say about is bang on. I agree about the looks too. Though tbe rear of the 3.8 is sexy as hell IMO. The Z is the hands down looker. But up until you really drive a 3.8, especially the two top models, GT and Ultimate, it really is quite the package. No, it doesn't have quite the performance of the Z, I wondered if I'd miss that selling my 370 for the 3.8. I don't. It has 95% of the performance (I'd argue mid range the 3.8 would put a hurting on a 6 speed though), for the same price I got my base 2013 with sport, I got a 3.8 decked out in all the tech, leather and goodies you could want for slightly less than I paid for the Z. It's a fantastic Touring/commute car. I do miss the Z a little. Mostly the looks but the fit and finish inside is IMO above Nissans. They've come A LONG way in a short time and will only get better.

njobe89

to me it's a Hyundai... after i sold my acura i was looking at a 3.8 and i went and test drove, my friend worked at the dealership and gave me hell of a deal. still i couldn't manage to buy it. the rear looks nice but the front is hideous, at least to me. the fake hood scoops too. to me the high tech package doesnt matter, i have a acura tsx fully loaded but i still use my phone for navi, go figure lol.

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Cmike2780

I agree. The Gen Coupe isn't a bad car, but it's at least on the radar now. It's a choice worth looking into whereas 10 years ago, no way in hell would most of us trade in a Z for a Tiburon. I honestly think Hyundai is still seeing what works and what doesn't in the design language. Not a fan of the front of the Gen Coupe, but I do like what they did with the Santa-Fe, Genesis Sedan and Sonata.

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Jordo!

All Hyundais come with an extra large fries and soft drink for only 85 cents more, so...

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Davey

Yeah, Europeans don't care about status. Serfs and knights and kings and all that crap is just some made-up stuff that they lied to you about when you were a kid.

njobe89

not much difference between a king and the president here... obama does whatever he wants here much like kings did/do. until the people get tired and then overthrow them. lol

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KaienZ34

Where does the "people that are sick of this king shit" line start?!?

More executive orders than ALL other presidents combined, spent more money than ALL other presidents combined....The list just goes on and on, not to mention the man HATES the fuck out of America.

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Cmike2780

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edk370

^I always thought Lark Voorhees aka Lisa Turtle was the hottest of them all.

But the Toyota, Nissan thing you wrote, I disagree with. I don't think Japanese cars ever suffered a POS car reputation in the U.S. I think their windfall was the 1970s oil crisis when people drove 8 mpg Detroit metal, and when gas prices were like 40 cents a gallon or something. Then the oil crisis happened, people with certain numbers or letters in their license plates go to visit gas stations on certain days. People in Detroit literally got baseball bats and smashed Toyotas and Hondas, blaming them for being laid off the plants...Hyundai's windfall on the other hand was due to the financial crisis i.e. 2008.

watson853

Down south where I live people still think nissan's are POS cars, it drives me crazy. Not nearly as bad as it used to be though.


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Drakonis GTR

I use to live in Arkansas. There, the motto was "If it aint wearin a Bow-Tie, it ain't worth a ****" That attitude, coupled with a some first-hand examples of "superior GM quality" led to my older brother and I having such a low opinion of GM in general, though I can honestly admit that they have made some vehicles that have withstood the test of time. Japanese vehicles there were virtually unheard of, with the exception of the occasional Corolla or Accord, usually owned by new arrivals.

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My parents follow the same motto, honestly chevy motors never have let them or even me down. Chevy electrics are the worst built/designed I feel in the entire industry.