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MagmaRed370z 07-30-2014 06:58 PM

Tilted wheels (picture)
 
Sorry for my big ignorance, but why do people do this to their cars? I'm talking about how the wheels stick out like that and they seem kinda tilted to the side?


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/31/juradaju.jpg

kenchan 07-30-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 2914054)
Sorry for my big ignorance, but why do people do this to their cars? I'm talking about how the wheels stick out like that and they seem kinda tilted to the side?

cause stance/vip/hella flush a toilet is the shitts. get with it.

dP3NGU1N 07-30-2014 07:00 PM

Because it's hella flush, bro.:ugh2:

enkei2k 07-30-2014 07:02 PM

it's called negative camber...

P's_Z 07-30-2014 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 2914054)
Sorry for my big ignorance, but why do people do this to their cars? I'm talking about how the wheels stick out like that and they seem kinda tilted to the side?


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/31/juradaju.jpg

Kind of a bit overboard with the whole hella fresh stance flush a toilet watchamacallit :ugh2:

RonRizz 07-30-2014 07:06 PM

I thought he nailed it....

Malm 07-30-2014 07:19 PM

its for show. Able to throw big ol wheels on there , then slam it.. only way to do that is to invert the wheels (like in the picture) which is called negative camber.

Typically you see this @ shows or photo shoots. On the road, you usually only see this on Hondas. More than likely the higher end "hellaflush" are probably on some type of air suspension to raise the car for street.. or just swap wheels.


edit: for a picture tho, that Z looks pretty mean.

aszyd 07-30-2014 07:20 PM

http://i.imgur.com/DyP40i3.jpg

gurneyeagle 07-30-2014 07:36 PM

This is why they do it:

Hellaflush cartoon - YouTube

MagmaRed370z 07-30-2014 07:38 PM

Is it for show only or does it have any other purpose?

onzedge 07-30-2014 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 2914054)
Sorry for my big ignorance, but why do people do this to their cars? I'm talking about how the wheels stick out like that and they seem kinda tilted to the side?


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/31/juradaju.jpg

There are many valid reasons for this behavior. Chief among them are (note that these are in no particular order of magnitude or severity):

1. Repeated rejection by the opposite sex

2. Repeated beatings delivered to them in high school

3. Peer pressure

4. Their Moms denied them the breast at a sensitive period in their psycho/socio development that later manifested into a "Stance-Fixation"

5. Their Fathers ignored them

5. One extra chromosome

6. Small genitals (real or perceived)

7. Beaten up by a girl once

8. Low IQ

9. Gender identity confusion

10. Etc.

falconfixer 07-30-2014 07:44 PM

I thought people did this 'cause they didn't know what else to do with Mommy and Daddy's money.


This thread will be epic:stirthepot:

Kenwoodturbo 07-30-2014 07:45 PM

OP. Don't let these guys fool you. There are very legitimate reasons why. As real hardcore racers know, when you are making mad powa with your rwd 370 z and you are taking out pesky lamborghini/ferrari/lotus/Bugatti/Pagani the limiting factor to the 370z is always the excessive forward bite. The mad grip in this car just costs you speed because the rear is just way too planted and sticky. so instead you camber the wheels inward so instead of 10"+ of tire of contact patch you try to get 1/4 " contact patch. This allows your rear wheels to spin much more out of the gate and that's a little known trade secret as you leave them in a trail of smoke. But much as we all know, on top of the excessive forward bite of the 370z rear tires, we understand that the limiting factor of the 370 is it's inability to turn a corner effectively. So by running 9 deg negative camber this ensures the car really grips in excessive cornering. Couple that with the stretched 5" wide tire on a 10.5"x 22 rim and this ensures that as you approach apex of turn you free the car on exit by transferring most of the weight to the lip of your rims. This does an excellent job of freeing up an otherwise tight steering car. Finally before the hardcore racers come in here and delete my thread. The last secret is that we all know that the soft suspension in our cars is just too plush and not oriented towards knocking out vipers. So we take and cut our springs or even more stealth is to remove them to have the minimum amount of travel as possible. I mean let's face it. With 2-3" of suspension travel your car may begin to roll in a corner which is bad. If the suspension cant move the body won't roll. That why I never bother with some overrated afco coilover setup. It's easier and lighter to cut or remove completely the springs and just keep the shocks bottomed out on themselves. Light and fast.

Oops gotta go I've now spilled the beans and published the worlds best kept racing secrets.

onzedge 07-30-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenwoodturbo (Post 2914092)
OP. Don't let these guys fool you. There are very legitimate reasons why. As real hardcore racers know, when you are making mad powa with your rwd 370 z and you are taking out pesky lamborghini/ferrari/lotus/Bugatti/Pagani the limiting factor to the 370z is always the excessive forward bite. The mad grip in this car just costs you speed because the rear is just way too planted and sticky. so instead you camber the wheels inward so instead of 10"+ of tire of contact patch you try to get 1/4 " contact patch. This allows your rear wheels to spin much more out of the gate and that's a little known trade secret as you leave them in a trail of smoke. But much as we all know, on top of the excessive forward bite of the 370z rear tires, we understand that the limiting factor of the 370 is it's inability to turn a corner effectively. So by running 9 deg negative camber this ensures the car really grips in excessive cornering. Couple that with the stretched 5" wide tire on a 10.5"x 22 rim and this ensures that as you approach apex of turn you free the car on exit by transferring most of the weight to the lip of your rims. This does an excellent job of freeing up an otherwise tight steering car. Finally before the hardcore racers come in here and delete my thread. The last secret is that we all know that the soft suspension in our cars is just too plush and not oriented towards knocking out vipers. So we take and cut our springs or even more stealth is to remove them to have the minimum amount of travel as possible. I mean let's face it. With 2-3" of suspension travel your car may begin to roll in a corner which is bad. If the suspension cant move the body won't roll. That why I never bother with some overrated afco coilover setup. It's easier and lighter to cut or remove completely the springs and just keep the shocks bottomed out on themselves. Light and fast.

Oops gotta go I've now spilled the beans and published the worlds best kept racing secrets.

I was moments away from firing away at you until I read it carefully. I have one comment:

:icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18:

falconfixer 07-30-2014 07:49 PM

:icon18::icon18:

Kenwoodturbo 07-30-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2914098)
I was moments away from firing away at you until I read it carefully. I have one comment:

:icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18:

I was hoping my level of sarcasm was not missed. Lol

onzedge 07-30-2014 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenwoodturbo (Post 2914104)
I was hoping my level of sarcasm was not missed. Lol

Good job. :tup:

onzedge 07-30-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2914107)
Yah that bite :rock:

:tup:

Masterbeatty 07-30-2014 07:55 PM

http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/z...psb0c15647.jpg

MagmaRed370z 07-30-2014 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2914087)
This is why they do it:

Hellaflush cartoon - YouTube

Lol

jpkirk 07-30-2014 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenwoodturbo (Post 2914092)
OP. Don't let these guys fool you. There are very legitimate reasons why. As real hardcore racers know, when you are making mad powa with your rwd 370 z and you are taking out pesky lamborghini/ferrari/lotus/Bugatti/Pagani the limiting factor to the 370z is always the excessive forward bite. The mad grip in this car just costs you speed because the rear is just way too planted and sticky. so instead you camber the wheels inward so instead of 10"+ of tire of contact patch you try to get 1/4 " contact patch. This allows your rear wheels to spin much more out of the gate and that's a little known trade secret as you leave them in a trail of smoke. But much as we all know, on top of the excessive forward bite of the 370z rear tires, we understand that the limiting factor of the 370 is it's inability to turn a corner effectively. So by running 9 deg negative camber this ensures the car really grips in excessive cornering. Couple that with the stretched 5" wide tire on a 10.5"x 22 rim and this ensures that as you approach apex of turn you free the car on exit by transferring most of the weight to the lip of your rims. This does an excellent job of freeing up an otherwise tight steering car. Finally before the hardcore racers come in here and delete my thread. The last secret is that we all know that the soft suspension in our cars is just too plush and not oriented towards knocking out vipers. So we take and cut our springs or even more stealth is to remove them to have the minimum amount of travel as possible. I mean let's face it. With 2-3" of suspension travel your car may begin to roll in a corner which is bad. If the suspension cant move the body won't roll. That why I never bother with some overrated afco coilover setup. It's easier and lighter to cut or remove completely the springs and just keep the shocks bottomed out on themselves. Light and fast.

Oops gotta go I've now spilled the beans and published the worlds best kept racing secrets.

I don't care!

jpkirk 07-30-2014 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2914098)
I was moments away from firing away at you until I read it carefully. I have one comment:

:icon18: :icon18: :icon18: :icon18:

I don't care, I will find new friends that understand...:mad:

jpkirk 07-30-2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenwoodturbo (Post 2914104)
I was hoping my level of sarcasm was not missed. Lol

I don't care ... :mad:

Ok, three times is enough. I might chase away the b!tches.

onzedge 07-30-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2914123)
I don't care!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2914125)
I don't care, I will find new friends that understand...:mad:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2914129)
I don't care ... :mad:

Ok, three times is enough. I might chase away the b!tches.

:icon17:

madwi 07-30-2014 08:25 PM

Those tires are so sticky that only 3/8ths of them can be in contact with the road otherwise they wouldn't move from the hella grip. That or they just have really bad taste.

jpkirk 07-30-2014 08:26 PM

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Winner Hellaflush!

roadrash666 07-30-2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2914087)
This is why they do it:

Hellaflush cartoon - YouTube

:icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18:::
OMG I'm crying!!!!!!!!!!!

falconfixer 07-30-2014 08:32 PM

Little known fact is that the inventor of the hella flush is the grandson of Uncle Ben.

Read T 07-30-2014 09:41 PM

OP, there are reasons cars run negative camber (and race cars normally run more). But the Hellaflush trend is retard. I think I own the only 240sx that isn't hellaflush slammed.

http://www.raceweb.co.za/homefeats/i...nds/negcam.jpg

Also, why do they call it flush? It's not flush if it's all tilted. Flush would be straight down parallel to the car.

Read T 07-30-2014 09:43 PM

Whoever said "hellaflush" was a Honda thing has never seen a 240sx in their life.

If you want to get mad bitches, run positive camber like on an old Morgan (not a mog in the picture)
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/...e-models-1.jpg

Duc_Z09 07-30-2014 09:56 PM

Negative camber for a street car is hella gay. I've only ever seen it on POS Civics from the 90s and various other crap that's barely even worth mentioning.

1325 07-30-2014 09:56 PM

Because, race car.

Read T 07-30-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 2914218)
Negative camber for a street car is hella gay. I've only ever seen it on POS Civics from the 90s and various other crap that's barely even worth mentioning.


I'm pretty sure about 95% of cars on the streets have negative camber.

axmea? 07-31-2014 12:25 AM

I used to criticize or judge but have learned to let them be. I no longer waste my energy on execution I don't necessarily agree with. They have reasons that others may never understand. Diverse taste = diverse execution amounts to a variety of cars that every enthusiast can appreciate. If you don't like it, press next.

/Angelo350Z/ 07-31-2014 01:31 AM

I can certainly see the appeal on hellaflush cars; especially the ones done right. That is, the wheels and tires are actually flushed with the fenders--not poking out with a ridiculous amount of negative camber. Controlled negative camber in the front actually provides more grip during corner exits as the wheels tend to "straighten" during cornering, but I'm pretty sure the hellaflush crowd don't really care about that nonsense :ugh2:.

RonRizz 07-31-2014 03:33 AM

I'm convinced that state inspection laws will soon be modified to exclude this severe negative camber, as well as tire stretching, citing it as unsafe. Just my opinion.

Footloose301 07-31-2014 04:46 AM

Stretching a tire to fit a wheel is dumb. Its dangerous to everyone on the road as well as themselves. Not to mention running all that negative camber kills tires, but I know this is the part that some to them like to brag about. Bragging about killing new tires with massive camber is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

I associate these kids with the people that sag their pants. Both display that you're homo looking to get @ss-fvcked.

onzedge 07-31-2014 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 2914218)
Negative camber for a street car is hella gay. I've only ever seen it on POS Civics from the 90s and various other crap that's barely even worth mentioning.

I am unsure about the accuracy of your observations. I have many gay friends, both men and women. and every one of their vehicles' camber appears in spec.

Here's a tip. Anyone who seriously employs the phrase "hella gay" or even "hella" (unless referring to the company that makes lights, horns, etc.) instantly reveals that person's level of intelligence.

onzedge 07-31-2014 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2914056)
cause stance/vip/hella flush a toilet is the shitts. get with it.

:iagree:

Zteve 07-31-2014 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 2914054)
Sorry for my big ignorance, but why do people do this to their cars? I'm talking about how the wheels stick out like that and they seem kinda tilted to the side?

totally agree. why anyone would do this to a sports car is beyond me. but hey, they want their car to ride like crap, scrape over the smallest of bumps, only drive on flat surfaces, etc it's on them. gives me something to laugh at. especially that park bench stuck on the back


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