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Bleek 07-24-2014 03:34 AM

Biased, non biased opinions... Help
 
As a long time forum member (almost since the 370 came out), I've been a fan of the 370z. I've been saving the past 2 years and am finally in the market to pull the trigger. I know more than likely what everyone on these forums are going to say, get the 370z and shut up. While I realllllly want to, I want something faster... Without having to TT the Z.


Basically my options are... Anything under 60k. I just got the wife a 2014 A4, and while I really don't like buying new cars (for obvious depreciation reasons), its going to be brand new.


The only requirements are-


Under 60k (obviously the cheaper the better, ideally around 50~)
Manual



TL;DR- Should I just buy the Z and TT it or explore other options (up to 60k) ?

14ZTSport 07-24-2014 04:39 AM

There are faster cars you can buy for < 60k. For example, the mustang 5.0 I recently traded for my Z was a few 1/10 second faster 0-60. That being said, I buy cars to DD, not race and though I do like to stretch out a cars performance now and then, those few 1/10 will never make a difference, as I'll never line up head to head with any other car to race, street or track. I always know the specs of any car I own, the general specs of other cars, and pretty much know without a run what the outcome would be. Buy what you like!

NoLaKrewe 07-24-2014 05:01 AM

Buy a Z and TT it.

madwi 07-24-2014 05:14 AM

I personally would try to find a slightly used 'vette (or new? I have not looked at their prices recently) but thats just me.

Zoren 370 07-24-2014 05:26 AM

I vote for the vette! Not as nibble as the Z but the vette is fast and damn intimidating on the road!
The Z is more spanking flirtatious! :tup:

DjSquall 07-24-2014 05:51 AM

Find a used GTR for that money

zefaulter 07-24-2014 06:18 AM

2012 - 2013 corvette for your price point. Older GTR if you want auto. I personally would still get Z

aszyd 07-24-2014 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2906370)
Find a used GTR for that money


I was shocked to see that there are GTRs available for 60K on Autotrader. They might not be the best examples, but they do exist.

I would look for a Vette as well. You can probably find a new C7 for that, or a just little more.

Zoren 370 07-24-2014 06:20 AM

Of course the big brother GTR but get the 11+ models.
2009 have transmission/clutch issues with too much launch control.

Duc_Z09 07-24-2014 06:27 AM

1) Buy a gently used Boss 302 Mustang and add forced induction.
2) ???
3) Profit!

Bleek 07-24-2014 06:47 AM

Didn't expect to see this many replies this quickly, love the370z :D



I think everyone seems to forget... Most people like the Z because its fairly quick and great around the corners. I, too, like the Z for that reason. If I were to go the Vette/Mustang route, I feel asif I would be disappointed. Maybe I just need to get out and test drive.


As for the GTR, its auto. I refuse to buy an automatic sports car, takes the fun outta it.



Thanks though everyone :tiphat:

aszyd 07-24-2014 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 2906390)
1) Buy a gently used Boss 302 Mustang and add forced induction.
2) ???
3) Profit!


Also a good choice! A roots blower would make the car amazing.

brancky3 07-24-2014 07:14 AM

Shelby GT500?

njobe89 07-24-2014 07:17 AM

i'd go with a z06 vette you can find them in the 40 range for 2008+

mab864 07-24-2014 07:20 AM

A C7 vette gets around the corners better than just about every other car. You can get a C7 with the Z51 package for 60K. I'd wait and buy a 2 year old one though.

Zoren 370 07-24-2014 07:34 AM

My only gripe with the vette about 90% of owners i see are senior citizens!
Dang don't want to wait to drive a sports car that nice when I'm already osteoporotic in my spine!:tup:

Arrvaxx 07-24-2014 07:46 AM

$60,000 is a lot of money.

A Vette? No way. Yawn. A muscle car? Lame. None of those cars have any soul.

OP...why do you want something faster? Bragging rights or the track?

I did a search on autotrader and you can get 911s and even Caymans for $60,000 and even low $40s. Aston Martin V8 Vantage if you want a V8. Or a Lotus Evora or Exige. Tons of Audi's and BMWs if you want the European version of yawn. If you're going to get an American power machine get a Viper. At least they are not as common.

And when you decide meet me in PA at the Tristate Import Tuner event next year. I'll show you what a twin turbo 370 can do. :D

IDZRVIT 07-24-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrvaxx (Post 2906477)
$60,000 is a lot of money.

A Vette? No way. Yawn. A muscle car? Lame. None of those cars have any soul.

OP...why do you want something faster? Bragging rights or the track?

I did a search on autotrader and you can get 911s and even Caymans for $60,000 and even low $40s. Aston Martin V8 Vantage if you want a V8. Or a Lotus Evora or Exige. Tons of Audi's and BMWs if you want the European version of yawn. If you're going to get an American power machine get a Viper. At least they are not as common.

And when you decide meet me in PA at the Tristate Import Tuner event next year. I'll show you what a twin turbo 370 can do. :D

Really? No soul? It's America's first true sports car! Remember, you can always mod something to go faster but you will run out of cubes with most of the cars you mentioned.

To the OP, my unbiased ;) opinion is get a new C7. A base model is faster than the Z and is less than $55K. Just head up to Nashua, NH. McMulkin has dozens on his lot.

njobe89 07-24-2014 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2906463)
My only gripe with the vette about 90% of owners i see are senior citizens!
Dang don't want to wait to drive a sports car that nice when I'm already osteoporotic in my spine!:tup:

seems everyone on here is old too -_- lol

big daddy 07-24-2014 08:12 AM

It's a great question and a tough decision:ugh2:

I've owned a GTR and like it a lot, only downside was the upkeep. You will also own a expensive car and will be treated like a turd like the rest of the Nissan owners at the dealership.

I traded the GTR in for the C7, pictures on here, and it's my second favorite car I've ever owned. There isn't one thing I don't like about the new Vet. You can say for old people, maybe just for people that can drop that much money for a car.

The wife drive an A7 and it puts me to sleep. :stirthepot:

My favorite car to drive is my Nismo :tiphat: I installed some aftermarket parts and had a tune done. For the $$$$$ it's the best bang for the buck. I purchased it used for $36,000 with less than a 800 miles.

Just my 2 cents

Hotrodz 07-24-2014 08:19 AM

I went through the same process before I TT my Nismo and I have not been disappointed at all. It's pretty awesome having a "sleeper" that is faster than the muscle cars listed above. Oh yes you can mod them too, but you won't stay under your $60K threshold. My suggestion is if you want a Z get a Z, a 12 or 13 and you will be able to buy all the supporting mods and come out with money in your pocket!

JWillis72 07-24-2014 08:59 AM

I have never been a vette fan but I love the C7 so I would buy it or the 370Z and TT it. I have a friend I track with that just traded in his 350Z track car for a BMW M3 and loves it but I'm just not into owning a BMW.

Bleek 07-24-2014 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big daddy (Post 2906526)
It's a great question and a tough decision:ugh2:

I've owned a GTR and like it a lot, only downside was the upkeep. You will also own a expensive car and will be treated like a turd like the rest of the Nissan owners at the dealership.

I traded the GTR in for the C7, pictures on here, and it's my second favorite car I've ever owned. There isn't one thing I don't like about the new Vet. You can say for old people, maybe just for people that can drop that much money for a car.

The wife drive an A7 and it puts me to sleep. :stirthepot:

My favorite car to drive is my Nismo :tiphat: I installed some aftermarket parts and had a tune done. For the $$$$$ it's the best bang for the buck. I purchased it used for $36,000 with less than a 800 miles.

Just my 2 cents


I feel like we're in the same boat, except I couldn't afford 70k for my wife's car (if i wanted to have 60k for my toy :stirthepot: )

+rep for the info :tiphat:

Munts 07-24-2014 09:08 AM

If I were you i'd go for a 2011-2013 BMW M3 6 speed.

You can find quite a few of these for under 60k with low miles.

If I had the kind of cash to buy one of those it would be in my garage within a heartbeat :)

2011 Nismo#91 07-24-2014 09:30 AM

Fiat 500 Abarth with all the bells and whistles. Take the rest the the money and fly 1st class to anywhere in the world and have a hell of a vacation.

jpkirk 07-24-2014 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleek (Post 2906427)
I think everyone seems to forget... Most people like the Z because its fairly quick and great around the corners. I, too, like the Z for that reason. If I were to go the Vette/Mustang route, I feel asif I would be disappointed. Maybe I just need to get out and test drive.

Thanks though everyone :tiphat:

The problem I have with vette/camaro/mustang/challenger is that every third car on the the road is a vette/camaro/mustang/challenger. Way too many of them. This summer I have seen only a few 350Z's and damn few 370Z's. They are unique and that is very high on the list of why I like it. Other than the fact that it is quick/fast enough for this old fart and I have only rarely stretched the traction control. AutoX will fix that.

jpkirk 07-24-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 2906513)
seems everyone on here is old too -_- lol

Hey ... Hey ... :shakes head:

I resemble that remark.

:icon17:

njobe89 07-24-2014 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2906738)
Hey ... Hey ... :shakes head:

I resemble that remark.

:icon17:

lol i move what i consider old every 5 years, so as of now anything over 30 is old -_- lol so this way i will always be young :stirthepot:

bdavis89 07-24-2014 10:31 AM

I'd go BMW M3, Audi S4/S5 (or even a used RS4/5), or Cadillac CTSV...for that kind of money I want luxury as well as speed.

FlyByGTI 07-24-2014 10:32 AM

Is this car a secondary toy or is it your daily driver??

What kind of power expectations are you hoping for??

What type of driving are you planning on doing -> Straight line vs. carving back roads??

Any specific type of features/creature comforts that you are looking for??

kenchan 07-24-2014 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2906656)
Fiat 500 Abarth with all the bells and whistles. Take the rest the the money and fly 1st class to anywhere in the world and have a hell of a vacation.

I hear they break easy... :ugh:

Davey 07-24-2014 10:38 AM

You should get a nice 2007 Corolla and put that money into an IRA.

280z/300zx 07-24-2014 10:42 AM

I've been a Z owner since I was 17 and currently now 32. Still have my 280z and 300zx. Bought a 2009 sport touring 370z in 09 when they first came out. Unfortunately it was wrecked a year and a half later. Shopped other cars but instead got a 2010 NISMO. Two months ago I was itching for something new and faster. Like you I was looking to spend 60k or Less. I looked at C7's but it would have put me at 68k plus it's a first year model and don't want any issues. So instead I bought a 2012 Corvette Grand Sport with only 3k miles on it.

Let me tell you, it's loads faster than the Z and I get more compliments/looks than the Z. Like others have said the Vette is far more common place compared to the Z. I rarely see 370z's on the road like I do Vettes but for some reason people pay more attention to the Vette. Personally in the looks department I like the Z a bit more, but that's not to say I don't like the Vette.

As for performance, hands down better than the Z. Yes, the non-Z51 pkg or non-GS pkg Vettes are not as nimble as the Z is. My ex used to have a regular 06 Vette and compared to my Z on the auto-x course it was not as nimble. My GS Vette on the other hand is every bit as nimble as the Z, has better cornering at high speeds on say a fwy bend or on ramp, and is loads faster. Coming from a NISMO the Vette interior is on par or better. Basically this car is just a bridge gap until I feel comfortable enough buying a new C7. Letting them work out the bugs.

In my opinion for the money you are talking about I'd go with a lightly optioned C7 if you want to take a small risk or get a slightly used C6 Vette GS. The Z is a great option too but it's severely lacking in power compared to other cars in the 30k+ range. Yes you can mod it but modding a brand new car past doing exhaust has never been something I like doing. Other options I would recommend is the Camaro 1LE. My ex just bought one 6 months before we split and I loved that car. I almost got one myself but got lucky finding my Vette first. Any questions about the 1LE let me know, hands down better than the Z for the same money.

axmea? 07-24-2014 10:52 AM

Why not open the possibilities by considering an auto? The future of a true sport transmission is in auto not MT. It's just more efficient and naturally quicker. Not knocking MT, I have one. For a car choice, I vote GTR (not sure if you'll find one easy at that price). Another is a used Cayman R.

kenchan 07-24-2014 11:02 AM

But you just suck at it or? :ugh:

;)

kenchan 07-24-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 2906762)
You should get a nice 2007 Corolla and put that money into an IRA.

Rather just die... :mad:

Limeybastard 07-24-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2906370)
Find a used GTR for that money

Good god no!

cigarclifford 07-24-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 2906762)
You should get a nice 2007 Corolla and put that money into an IRA.

Agree. If you cant figure out in life what sports car you really should buy.
Maybe rent the Corolla....................

kenchan 07-24-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 2906795)
Agree. If you cant figure out in life what sports car you really should buy.
Maybe rent the Corolla....................

Is that wat the doc ordered?

cigarclifford 07-24-2014 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2906798)
Is that wat the doc ordered?

Greeting's Kenchan, if you had to pick out your next sports car.. you
would surely know the Make, Model, and Color................
:bowrofl:


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