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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck 4.0L V8 is a tiny motor. Ummmm what? In a japanese car thats massive. I mean GoDZilla uses a v6.... If you want a V8

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Old 10-07-2014, 11:04 PM   #316 (permalink)
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4.0L V8 is a tiny motor.
Ummmm what? In a japanese car thats massive. I mean GoDZilla uses a v6....

If you want a V8 go buy a Mustang. A v6tt or inline 6 tt would be far more fun and have much more tuning potential done right.

I assume you would take a 4000 pound car with a 600hp v8 over a 2700 pound car with a 420hp 4 cylinder?

The difference with those options is one corners and can go fast straight lines and one will not corner at all.
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A Japanese V8 in a sports car? Lol sorry guys, not happening. You have a better chance at winning the lottery. Leave the big V8's for the American cars. I honestly see Nissan keeping it NA, smaller V6, but major overhaul on the chassis. 2800-3000lbs with 300ish hp. I just can't see them doing a V6 TT when you already have that in the GTR.
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Are those cars even considered sports cars? I know there are Japanese V8's, but when is the last time you seen one in a 2 seater sports car? If you guys want big displacement, go buy an American car. I think a smaller boosted 6 or even possibly a 4 would be great for the Z platform. I'm not so much concerned about the engine as much as I am the chassis. If there isn't a huge overhaul with the chassis... like 2800-3000lbs curb weight, then I am going with a Vette or used Viper.
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^I think they are.

Have fun with a used Viper. I think that's a money pit. I doubt they're reliable. I drove a 2002 Viper. Very fast but scary car. I thought the interior was waaaaay too small. Your left (clutch) leg is literally pushed towards the right. It's a rolling coffin. I guess I'm claustrophobic. But I don't know about the new ones though.
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Are those cars even considered sports cars?
Nope. Apparently its a "Performance Sedan"
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With the possible exception of 4-door rally cars, anything boxy with four doors is definitely not a traditional "sportscar".

The ISF is awesome... for a family car

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Ummmm what? In a japanese car thats massive. I mean GoDZilla uses a v6....

If you want a V8 go buy a Mustang. A v6tt or inline 6 tt would be far more fun and have much more tuning potential done right.

I assume you would take a 4000 pound car with a 600hp v8 over a 2700 pound car with a 420hp 4 cylinder?

The difference with those options is one corners and can go fast straight lines and one will not corner at all.
Yes. In fact, a 4.0L V8 is quite small compared to the V8s everyone else uses. And our VQs are about the same size as some V8s, and weight, especially if you are considering a TT V6. I agree that a turbo is easier for power adding, but a hi-reving V8 would be a lot of fun. Look at F1. 2.4L V8 revving to 19k RPM. Not saying it needs to be that extreme, but it would be fun to have an NA hi-revving motor.

I considered a Mustang. I bought the Z because it's lighter and was more affordable for the options.

You also assume incorrectly, and your sentence structure is suspect.
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I love the assumption people keep making about how cars with V8s don't handle well, and cars with 4 or 6 cylinder motors do. I never heard any E92 M3 owners complain.
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Got the gorgeous 2013 bumper on mine

It's the price lowering on the 14's that maybe cost me $4k but this really doesn't bother me as I had no control over this. Also for $33k, a brand new 13 Sport Z picked up in Aug 2012 has been worth every penny.
i just didnt like the removal of the fangs personally. the 13 bumper just looks like a 350 to me and whats the point then. plus the fangs just look badass and follow the hood design.

the 14 price drop hurt us all lol
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I love the assumption people keep making about how cars with V8s don't handle well, and cars with 4 or 6 cylinder motors do. I never heard any E92 M3 owners complain.


just think koenigsegg pulls 1,371 BHP out of a TT 5.0 V8.

i think i'd be ok with a 4.0 V8 that i can throw some snails on lol
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Nope. Apparently its a "Performance Sedan"
2014 Lexus IS F - Performance Sedan | Lexus.com

With the possible exception of 4-door rally cars, anything boxy with four doors is definitely not a traditional "sportscar".

The ISF is awesome... for a family car

2 doors, roadsters and coupes only, please
Seriously... I was on the market for a true coupe (ie 2 doors and 2 seats) and lets see what I could have got... Z, miata, lotus... okay nevemind I even asked that. Alfa Romeo not even in canadia nor could i afford one =(

in all honesty, i got the Z with full knowledge of its potentials, qualities, qweks, and draw backs. No other car is like it on the market, I like the design (tight waist wide hips) and the engine. There aren't any comparable engines out there. You cannot compare a FI'd engine to a NA engine because any FI'd car will have a higher output. But what would that engine do non-fi'd? What's the stress on the FI on the car? Will you get the same mileage before the heart goes? So many questions, not enough answers.

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Yes. In fact, a 4.0L V8 is quite small compared to the V8s everyone else uses. And our VQs are about the same size as some V8s, and weight, especially if you are considering a TT V6. I agree that a turbo is easier for power adding, but a hi-reving V8 would be a lot of fun. Look at F1. 2.4L V8 revving to 19k RPM. Not saying it needs to be that extreme, but it would be fun to have an NA hi-revving motor.

I considered a Mustang. I bought the Z because it's lighter and was more affordable for the options.

You also assume incorrectly, and your sentence structure is suspect.
those ultra-hyper revving engines need to be rebuilt after every race so i can't say that's too practical... but would be cool to see if they could push one out for the crowds
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i just didnt like the removal of the fangs personally. the 13 bumper just looks like a 350 to me and whats the point then. plus the fangs just look badass and follow the hood design.

the 14 price drop hurt us all lol
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just think koenigsegg pulls 1,371 BHP out of a TT 5.0 V8.

i think i'd be ok with a 4.0 V8 that i can throw some snails on lol
okay lets not get greedy...
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I love the assumption people keep making about how cars with V8s don't handle well, and cars with 4 or 6 cylinder motors do. I never heard any E92 M3 owners complain.


my friend has one and it's a beast of a car
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I love the assumption people keep making about how cars with V8s don't handle well, and cars with 4 or 6 cylinder motors do. I never heard any E92 M3 owners complain.
However the v8 people are suggesting is Nissan's VK45/VK56. A little different than the E92 M3.

Also why have an NA v8 when you can have a TT 6cyl. I don't see F82 M4 owners wishing they had a v8 . One owner in our Sunday C&C group traded his ZR1 for the M4 and doesn't miss it one bit...
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Also why have an NA v8 when you can have a TT 6cyl. I don't see F82 M4 owners wishing they had a v8 . One owner in our Sunday C&C group traded his ZR1 for the M4 and doesn't miss it one bit...
A NA V8 can make the same power numbers, with no lag, with less heat and less complexity and less weight once you add in all of the turbo parts and plumbing. If Nissan had offered a V8 Z with 450 ft/lbs of torque, I'd have happily done that over boosting the Z. Plus, it's not like you can't boost a V8.

And the guy who traded the ZR1 for the M4 doesn't miss it one bit because the interior of a Vette is really sad, especially when you pay 100k for it.
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