Z35 motor theory

watson853 · 09-29-2014, 07:59 AM

All the links are in this thread you just gotta read through it.

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watson853 · 09-29-2014, 08:10 AM

Here is one that may or may not have made on here but it's still basically same info.

http://carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/10/Th...Targa-7721917/

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watson853 · 09-29-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777

Well idk wtf u guys r thinking, i dont want to be a troll, but if you put a German in a Japanese clothes, its still a F@(Kin German. Lol

I don't think anyone here wants the Mercedes engine but they're the only engines brought up in any article I have found.

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Volk Z · 09-29-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

Idk if it will be a Benz in Nissan clothing. Only the motor will be Mercedes. Maybe the transmission too. Im also willing to bet that the motor won't just be all Mercedes. Im sure Nissan will tinker with the intake, head design, and stuff like that to better suit the Z. Who knows though.

So when the juke had a gtr engine and transmission put in it and spanked the ferrari. Lambo and mercedes it wasnt gtr in juke clothing it was a juke that did it?

Dont kid your self the heart of a car is the engine and transmission.

Its the death of the z if they source to mercedes.
I would rather see a 4 cylinder turbo made by nissan that focused on performance then a v6 turbo merc engnine.

Eclipz · 09-29-2014, 10:20 PM

I just hope Nissan doesn't do that "engine noise amplification" BS that other car companies are doing.

Rusty · 09-29-2014, 11:02 PM

Well, the new GT-R that's getting released in 2017? will have the 3.8L V6 twin turbo motor- hybid combo with over 800HP. So any turbo motor may make it into the new Z.

Shamu · 09-29-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

So when the juke had a gtr engine and transmission put in it and spanked the ferrari. Lambo and mercedes it wasnt gtr in juke clothing it was a juke that did it?

Dont kid your self the heart of a car is the engine and transmission.

Its the death of the z if they source to mercedes.
I would rather see a 4 cylinder turbo made by nissan that focused on performance then a v6 turbo merc engnine.

....Uhhhh you mean the Juke with GTR suspension, GTR brakes, tubeframe reinforcements ? Lol!

Don't kid yourself, a well developed mercedes powerplant isn't end of Z if that's direction nissan goes. Have to hand it to Nissan they have kept all in the dark about what's going on with Z.

zguynate · 09-30-2014, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z

So when the juke had a gtr engine and transmission put in it and spanked the ferrari. Lambo and mercedes it wasnt gtr in juke clothing it was a juke that did it?

Dont kid your self the heart of a car is the engine and transmission.

Its the death of the z if they source to mercedes.
I would rather see a 4 cylinder turbo made by nissan that focused on performance then a v6 turbo merc engnine.

You mean the Juke that had everything that made the GTR a GTR except for the body? Nissan won't be using a Mercedes C Class engine, transmission, suspension, rear differential, etc.

Is the FRS a Subaru? Is the Genesis 2.0 an Evo? Is the Vette a Silverado? Its not like Nissan is going to be taking these motors out of Benz's. Just because they use the basic engine design doesn't mean that Nissan won't have any development in the motor that makes it to the Z. This is all speculation anyway. Hell Nissan could use the motor straight from the Mercedes factory, but even then to say its not a Z is absurd. Nissan is going to be doing a ton of R&D on the car. Specifically design for a smaller/lighter car and suspension. Mercedes is not.

Volk Z · 09-30-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

You mean the Juke that had everything that made the GTR a GTR except for the body? Nissan won't be using a Mercedes C Class engine, transmission, suspension, rear differential, etc.

Is the FRS a Subaru? Is the Genesis 2.0 an Evo? Is the Vette a Silverado? Its not like Nissan is going to be taking these motors out of Benz's. Just because they use the basic engine design doesn't mean that Nissan won't have any development in the motor that makes it to the Z. This is all speculation anyway. Hell Nissan could use the motor straight from the Mercedes factory, but even then to say its not a Z is absurd. Nissan is going to be doing a ton of R&D on the car. Specifically design for a smaller/lighter car and suspension. Mercedes is not.

You took my rebuttal out of context. I said the juke was simply a gtr in sheeps clothing. Which you clearly agree with.

If nissan can truly dig in and increase reliability and make a Mercedes engine mod friendly then it wont be the death of the z.

These speculation forums really bring out the best in all of us... lol

Im not arguing fyi

watson853 · 09-30-2014, 10:45 AM

I'm not as worried about the engine as I am the hybrid setup that will be paired to it. It's one thing to have a hybrid DD that you don't plan on keeping since the warranty will pretty much take care of you, but putting a really expensive system that will most likely need expensive maintenance work on top of the regular drivetrain maintenance worries me.

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falconfixer · 09-30-2014, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Well, the new GT-R that's getting released in 2017? will have the 3.8L V6 twin turbo motor- hybid combo with over 800HP. So any turbo motor may make it into the new Z.

784HP

Next-gen Nissan GT-R will go hybrid, pack 784 HP

mishuko · 09-30-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

You mean the Juke that had everything that made the GTR a GTR except for the body? Nissan won't be using a Mercedes C Class engine, transmission, suspension, rear differential, etc.

Is the FRS a Subaru? Is the Genesis 2.0 an Evo? Is the Vette a Silverado? Its not like Nissan is going to be taking these motors out of Benz's. Just because they use the basic engine design doesn't mean that Nissan won't have any development in the motor that makes it to the Z. This is all speculation anyway. Hell Nissan could use the motor straight from the Mercedes factory, but even then to say its not a Z is absurd. Nissan is going to be doing a ton of R&D on the car. Specifically design for a smaller/lighter car and suspension. Mercedes is not.

but the frs is a brz... it's the toyobaru twins last time i checked aside from some cosmetics they were identical.

as for your other comparisons... well i see some hemi-engined cars. Well that's a wolf in sheep skin imo.

njobe89 · 09-30-2014, 12:16 PM

i just read on carmarketnews that it will have 408hp? it will be the benz engine... how much truth there is behind that who knows

brucelidat · 09-30-2014, 01:16 PM

It better not be 408+hp and also lighter. I was planning to keep the 370 for a long time instead of wasting money upgrading...

njobe89 · 09-30-2014, 01:36 PM

idk... i plan on keeping it till i pay it off, then sell it and get something better.

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watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	Z35 motor theory I'm not as worried about the engine as I am the hybrid setup that will be paired to it. It's one thing to have a hybrid DD that you don't plan on keeping since the warranty will pretty much take care of you, but putting a really expensive system that will most likely need expensive maintenance work on top of the regular drivetrain maintenance worries me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Last edited by watson853; 09-30-2014 at 10:54 AM.

09-30-2014, 12:16 PM	#163 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	i just read on carmarketnews that it will have 408hp? it will be the benz engine... how much truth there is behind that who knows __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	It better not be 408+hp and also lighter. I was planning to keep the 370 for a long time instead of wasting money upgrading... __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-30-2014, 01:36 PM	#165 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	idk... i plan on keeping it till i pay it off, then sell it and get something better. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

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watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	All the links are in this thread you just gotta read through it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

09-29-2014, 08:10 AM	#152 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	Here is one that may or may not have made on here but it's still basically same info. http://carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/10/Th...Targa-7721917/ Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

09-29-2014, 10:20 PM	#155 (permalink)
Eclipz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 360 Drives: 06 Eclipse GS Rep Power: 12	I just hope Nissan doesn't do that "engine noise amplification" BS that other car companies are doing.

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