Z35 motor theory

aszyd · 08-08-2014, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st

Unnamed sources have told Motoring the new Z will be twin turbo v8 with upgraded vvl and have a 35 row oil cooler with 4 diffrent type of map settings.

The Camaro ZL1 is damn close to that... Supercharged V8 with coolers on everything.

Zoren 370 · 08-08-2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

I doubt the manufacturers care which people choose: only the one that gets the best sales. Their decision to only offer automatic or only CVT, is more to cut production costs than a secret hidden vendetta against sticks.

Precisely my point its all about profit its not about what the consumers want. Its all about more sales with less cost. Nothing against AT but even granny can drive a Camaro with an automatic! Who does heel and toe now only quite a skillfull few....Certainly now I dont with the syncro rev. Its fun its easy.

I remember Porsche said years back they will only cater to making sports cars no SUVs...,.now what do we have the cayenne and the latest Crossover Machan. Who cares about the purist? They are only a few. Widen the market that is where the money is! Make a super car affordable and run through the production line thus comes Nissan GTR with all the driving aids even a 16 year old rich mamas boy can drive one in the track like a pro!
Even car makers have change there game why kill each other when we can team up to survive and build an affordable sports car a 4 banger thus the brz/frs!

What a nice strategy isnt? Why not Nissan + renault + merc come up with the same stategy so that even a newly high school graduate would able to taste what it feels to have a sports car! Again Because its PRofitable.
So the rumors might be just arond the corner.

aszyd · 08-08-2014, 10:26 PM

Except the rumors say that Subaru got the short end of that deal and are pulling out of the BRZ market, especially after the ToyoBMW partnership.

Should have released a proper STI, with a turbo, to differentiate them from the Scion.

I say that there are two vendettas against manuals. Lazy people who just want to press the gas pedal and go, and the designers of performance cars who KNOW that their DCTs are faster than a manual. They didn't decide to stop making them out of spite, the market and technology has advanced to the point where manuals are becoming irrelevant.

Also, I love SRM! I can't heel toe for **** and without height adjustable pedals, I don't think I will ever take the time to learn.

Zoren 370 · 08-08-2014, 11:11 PM

I agree I certainly think Subaru was the one made more money out of the partnership as Frs have used and will continue to use the subaru boxter engine.

RND is the most expensive dept in the automotive industry. Its cheaper to source out other company who have already made all the Rnd and comes up with a good product.
Nissan has made the right move in choosing Merc to provide turbo charged engine + hybrid option. Hey who is currently making a killing in F1 in terms of reliability with turbo engines guess what its Mercedez Benz!

aszyd · 08-08-2014, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

boxter

Boxer...

Boxster is a Porsche, Boxer is an engine.

Zoren 370 · 08-08-2014, 11:21 PM

Nice catch my bad! Thanks for the correction.

Im sorry I still love Porsche but still cant afford that darn car!

I wish Porsche would partner with Kia!

aszyd · 08-09-2014, 12:18 AM

IMO, the Cayman is the ever looming presence over a 370z. That or the Audi TT-RS which was limited production.

Dirk McGurck · 08-09-2014, 12:55 AM

I didn't buy a Toybaru because there was no power and it's got a shitty interior compared to a used Z for the same price. I don't regret my decision. I'd be interested in a TT V6, or just a little more power out of the current V6. Add that to a lighter weight, and I'm happy.

Needs to have a real manual, though. I don't care that a DCT auto is faster. I don't want one.

aszyd · 08-09-2014, 01:48 AM

They should just throw direct injection ports into the VQ37. That would really help with the power.

Drakonis GTR · 08-09-2014, 11:54 AM

So the Turbo 3.0 liter is expecting 328hp? I hope that's at the wheels (not likely), or otherwise Nissan is back sliding. That better include a decent increase in MPG or otherwise my thought is that they are wasting their time. Of course, with the talk of throwing an electric motor into the mix, hopefully that HP figure will jump up a bit. Would like to see numbers near the 375 mark or so. That would make it more worthwhile IMO.

As for the turbo 4...why? Unless their plans for the IDx fall through, they will already have a Turbo 4 sports car. Double-dipping would do nothing more than hurt sales for both, and if the Nismo IDx is cheaper, hang it up. Unless you are the kind of person that doesn't care about power and just wants the look?

Of course, I have always been the kind of person that would wonder why someone would buy a V6 in a car, when the V8 is an option. It just seems like a waste to me.

But hey, it's Nissan's money. If this decision comes back to bite them in the ***, sucks to be them.

aszyd · 08-09-2014, 01:15 PM

Current rumors are that the iDX is not going to be produced.

Virtual · 08-09-2014, 01:20 PM

I've seen a couple stories of this since morning, here is another article :

2017 Nissan Z35 could feature turbo hybrid powertrain | Digital Trends

rumor it will cost 60k, gtfo

watson853 · 08-09-2014, 02:17 PM

I wonder if the turbo four will be base and the 3.0 turbo might be exclusive to the nismo. Anyone else think this may be the case.

Dirk McGurck · 08-09-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakonis GTR

So the Turbo 3.0 liter is expecting 328hp? I hope that's at the wheels (not likely), or otherwise Nissan is back sliding. That better include a decent increase in MPG or otherwise my thought is that they are wasting their time. Of course, with the talk of throwing an electric motor into the mix, hopefully that HP figure will jump up a bit. Would like to see numbers near the 375 mark or so. That would make it more worthwhile IMO.

As for the turbo 4...why? Unless their plans for the IDx fall through, they will already have a Turbo 4 sports car. Double-dipping would do nothing more than hurt sales for both, and if the Nismo IDx is cheaper, hang it up. Unless you are the kind of person that doesn't care about power and just wants the look?

Of course, I have always been the kind of person that would wonder why someone would buy a V6 in a car, when the V8 is an option. It just seems like a waste to me.

But hey, it's Nissan's money. If this decision comes back to bite them in the ***, sucks to be them.

My mantra: get the largest engine for the car or the smallest car for the engine.

Huck · 08-09-2014, 09:35 PM

From the talk I had it sounded like it would just be the RS. The rest will be as usual.

I also just found this: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...-hybrid-engine

Zdayz 2014!!

08-08-2014, 10:26 PM	#123 (permalink)
aszyd Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 877 Drives: Magma Red 370z T+S Rep Power: 21	Except the rumors say that Subaru got the short end of that deal and are pulling out of the BRZ market, especially after the ToyoBMW partnership. Should have released a proper STI, with a turbo, to differentiate them from the Scion. I say that there are two vendettas against manuals. Lazy people who just want to press the gas pedal and go, and the designers of performance cars who KNOW that their DCTs are faster than a manual. They didn't decide to stop making them out of spite, the market and technology has advanced to the point where manuals are becoming irrelevant. Also, I love SRM! I can't heel toe for **** and without height adjustable pedals, I don't think I will ever take the time to learn. __________________ Competition Clutch\|Fast Intentions\|Maxbore\|NST\|Setrab\|Stillen\|Tomei\|Uprev\| Z1 Avant Garde\|SPC\|Stance\|Whiteline Aerojacket\|Seibon\|Tanabe\|TRS\|TWM Last edited by aszyd; 08-08-2014 at 10:32 PM.

08-08-2014, 11:21 PM	#126 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913654	Nice catch my bad! Thanks for the correction. Im sorry I still love Porsche but still cant afford that darn car! I wish Porsche would partner with Kia! Last edited by Zoren 370; 08-08-2014 at 11:27 PM.

08-09-2014, 12:18 AM	#127 (permalink)
aszyd Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 877 Drives: Magma Red 370z T+S Rep Power: 21	IMO, the Cayman is the ever looming presence over a 370z. That or the Audi TT-RS which was limited production. __________________ Competition Clutch\|Fast Intentions\|Maxbore\|NST\|Setrab\|Stillen\|Tomei\|Uprev\| Z1 Avant Garde\|SPC\|Stance\|Whiteline Aerojacket\|Seibon\|Tanabe\|TRS\|TWM

08-09-2014, 12:55 AM	#128 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	I didn't buy a Toybaru because there was no power and it's got a shitty interior compared to a used Z for the same price. I don't regret my decision. I'd be interested in a TT V6, or just a little more power out of the current V6. Add that to a lighter weight, and I'm happy. Needs to have a real manual, though. I don't care that a DCT auto is faster. I don't want one. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

08-09-2014, 01:48 AM	#129 (permalink)
aszyd Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 877 Drives: Magma Red 370z T+S Rep Power: 21	They should just throw direct injection ports into the VQ37. That would really help with the power. __________________ Competition Clutch\|Fast Intentions\|Maxbore\|NST\|Setrab\|Stillen\|Tomei\|Uprev\| Z1 Avant Garde\|SPC\|Stance\|Whiteline Aerojacket\|Seibon\|Tanabe\|TRS\|TWM

08-08-2014, 11:11 PM	#124 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913654	I agree I certainly think Subaru was the one made more money out of the partnership as Frs have used and will continue to use the subaru boxter engine. RND is the most expensive dept in the automotive industry. Its cheaper to source out other company who have already made all the Rnd and comes up with a good product. Nissan has made the right move in choosing Merc to provide turbo charged engine + hybrid option. Hey who is currently making a killing in F1 in terms of reliability with turbo engines guess what its Mercedez Benz!

08-09-2014, 11:54 AM	#130 (permalink)
Drakonis GTR Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 154 Drives: 09' 370Z B/S Rd M6 Rep Power: 13	So the Turbo 3.0 liter is expecting 328hp? I hope that's at the wheels (not likely), or otherwise Nissan is back sliding. That better include a decent increase in MPG or otherwise my thought is that they are wasting their time. Of course, with the talk of throwing an electric motor into the mix, hopefully that HP figure will jump up a bit. Would like to see numbers near the 375 mark or so. That would make it more worthwhile IMO. As for the turbo 4...why? Unless their plans for the IDx fall through, they will already have a Turbo 4 sports car. Double-dipping would do nothing more than hurt sales for both, and if the Nismo IDx is cheaper, hang it up. Unless you are the kind of person that doesn't care about power and just wants the look? Of course, I have always been the kind of person that would wonder why someone would buy a V6 in a car, when the V8 is an option. It just seems like a waste to me. But hey, it's Nissan's money. If this decision comes back to bite them in the ***, sucks to be them. __________________ 2009 Nissan 370Z Base w/ Sport Package F.I . LTHs with Non-Resonated Cat-back exhaust (C.F.) / Stillen Gen3 CAI / Up-Rev Tune

08-09-2014, 01:15 PM	#131 (permalink)
aszyd Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 877 Drives: Magma Red 370z T+S Rep Power: 21	Current rumors are that the iDX is not going to be produced. Zoren 370 likes this. __________________ Competition Clutch\|Fast Intentions\|Maxbore\|NST\|Setrab\|Stillen\|Tomei\|Uprev\| Z1 Avant Garde\|SPC\|Stance\|Whiteline Aerojacket\|Seibon\|Tanabe\|TRS\|TWM

08-09-2014, 01:20 PM	#132 (permalink)
Virtual Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Socal Posts: 71 Drives: Mystery Machine Rep Power: 12	I've seen a couple stories of this since morning, here is another article : 2017 Nissan Z35 could feature turbo hybrid powertrain \| Digital Trends rumor it will cost 60k, gtfo

08-09-2014, 02:17 PM	#133 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	I wonder if the turbo four will be base and the 3.0 turbo might be exclusive to the nismo. Anyone else think this may be the case.

08-09-2014, 09:35 PM	#135 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 42 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 34	From the talk I had it sounded like it would just be the RS. The rest will be as usual. I also just found this: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...-hybrid-engine Zdayz 2014!! __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

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