Z35 motor theory

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2014, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall

If they turbo V6 the Z, they'll kill the GTR. It's either going to be a turbo 4 (massive fail) or another NA v6.

My 2c

the current 3.0 6 cylinder turbo is rated at 329 horsepower. I don't see how it will cut into a 600 horsepower GTR

watson853 · 07-22-2014, 10:21 PM

^ Exactly and someone stated earlier the gtr is getting a rather decent power boost so there is plenty of room for even something as crazy as a 500 hp Z.

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my2004Z · 07-22-2014, 10:26 PM

No turbos please! A higher revving, lighter weight with a more balanced power band engine mated to a 2800 lb car will wipe the floor with anything in its targeted class while meeting tighter EPA regulations. Throw in a KERS type boost system good for a 1/4 mile run and you have something worthy of the Z name.

Eclipz · 07-22-2014, 10:34 PM

A weight reduction will be key to obtaining better performance and economy. Just hope nissan doesnt do what ford did to the mustang and add weight

Spooler · 07-22-2014, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I've owned 2 infiniti's and 5 nissans. I know that nissans are generally good quality for the m obey. but I spent 35,000 dollars on a sports car that sounds like a sewing machine. That bothers. Both my G's sounded awesome. The Z and my Altima 3.5 nearly sounded the same. That's not good to me. I shouldn't have to spend money to make my car sound like a sports car when it is in fact a sports car. When buying an enthusiastic vehicle, yes exhaust note mean something to me. Torque means 10 times more to me. The Z gets a D+ on torque for the manual and the C+ on the automatic. Let's push it up two an A+.

I'm about nissan progress, not about nissan fanboy.

LOL, Let's just agree to disagree. Modifying to your likes has always been part of the game. I have owned the following Z's.

1974 1/2 260z
1975 280zt, currently still have.
1978 280z
1980 280zx
1983 280zx 2+2
1987 300zt
1990 300ztt

So, I have had just a few of them. I am not counting any of my other Nissans I have owned. Nissan fan boy, ah, NO. I do love a Z car. Never did like the 350z though.

Spooler · 07-22-2014, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipz

A weight reduction will be key to obtaining better performance and economy. Just hope nissan doesnt do what ford did to the mustang and add weight

Agreed, Z 's have become far too heavy.

NoLaKrewe · 07-23-2014, 12:23 AM

Personally, I would like to see the Z lose about 400-600 pounds. If it did that I would be fine with engine numbers.

mab864 · 07-23-2014, 12:28 AM

We need a direct injected, higher compression NA 3.8L V-6 out of the GTR that's not hand built. 400 hp & 300 tq and the car needs to weigh 3K. 25 mpg combined due to the direct injection. Yeah... better stock exhaust note. Oh yeah, and I want those red Recaros out of the '15 Nismo. That would be $$$.

NoLaKrewe · 07-23-2014, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mab864

We need a direct injected, higher compression NA 3.8L V-6 out of the GTR that's not hand built. 400 hp & 300 tq and the car needs to weigh 3K. 25 mpg combined due to the direct injection. Yeah... better stock exhaust note. That would be $$$.

That don't sound to bad. I wonder how much more the new Z will cost.

aszyd · 07-23-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe

That don't sound to bad. I wonder how much more the new Z will cost.

The same, maybe a little less. Gotta compete with the Mustang and Camaro. I love the Z, but a Mustang GT is a great value and can be built to handle.

Jordo! · 07-23-2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

If there's ever a new Supra, it will be 100K+ and a direct competitor with the GTR.

I don't see that happening. They'd have way too much catch-up to play in order to compete. The GT-R has gotten too good for Toyota to fight with at a competitive price point.

The LF-A can barely hold its own with the GT-R at three times the price, so I just don't see it.

It would make more sense for them to try and steal the Z or top tier Camaro/Mustang crowd. Even then, I suspect the price point will higher, but at least it would have a shot.

kenchan · 07-23-2014, 10:04 AM

They should just call it a paseo.

Read T · 07-23-2014, 10:32 AM

I don't see the car getting much lighter unless they start using expensive materials. You can thank safety standards and accessories for that. You want a lightweight sportscar but you also want power windows. heated seats etc.

Firebase99 · 07-23-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T

Not that they would, but how would you guys feel about a hybrid? Think KERS/F1 style.

Ive been saying for a year now, that it might share the Q's hybrid. IMO, would be awesome.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-23-2014, 03:52 PM

Its obvious from the thread Nissan needs to go back to Z31/32 ideology of having 2 engines. I think they should keep the vq for people who are stuck in the vq era. And a 3.0T for people that want to get hardcore with modding the engine and appreciate having a pre-piped FI vehicle.

My personal taste would be... If NA power was my main interest? I'd be waiting on further pony car news. in the naturally-aspirated world, there's no replacement for displacement. Which I have my eyes and ears out for the C6 camaro as well. Rumors are that chassis is dropping 300-500 pounds with the alpha platform

Me, personally, I love the Z for so many reasons. But that's another thread right there. But if the Z doesn't not meet my expectations. I will finally have to break a life-long rule. I will pay more than $45,000 for my sports car. I am going delve into the arena of 2015 low end supercars.Porsche 911 GT-3, Meredes-Benz C63 AMG, Jaguar F-type R and Corvette Z06. Value for $$,$$$ seems to be decreasing in the current affordable car market. And if the next gen Z is as gimmicky as the 2015 mustang. I gotta spend more money to play. Me and the wife divorced so my finances are free to get deep in the game. Bye BYTCH!!!!

07-23-2014, 12:23 AM	#37 (permalink)
NoLaKrewe Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NoLa Posts: 469 Drives: 2011 FJ//2015 370z Rep Power: 13	Personally, I would like to see the Z lose about 400-600 pounds. If it did that I would be fine with engine numbers. __________________ Starting a NoLa Z club https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheBigeZClub/ The struggle will be real!

07-23-2014, 12:28 AM	#38 (permalink)
mab864 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 482 Drives: 13 Sport 6MT Rep Power: 12	We need a direct injected, higher compression NA 3.8L V-6 out of the GTR that's not hand built. 400 hp & 300 tq and the car needs to weigh 3K. 25 mpg combined due to the direct injection. Yeah... better stock exhaust note. Oh yeah, and I want those red Recaros out of the '15 Nismo. That would be $$$. UNKNOWN_370 and NoLaKrewe like this. __________________ Berk HFC & CBE, Stillen G3, UpRev & tune by PSI, GTMat, 3M, Swift, StopTech, H&R 20/25, GT-R, 324 whp & 262 torque

07-23-2014, 10:32 AM	#43 (permalink)
Read T A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,046 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z BC 6M Rep Power: 18	I don't see the car getting much lighter unless they start using expensive materials. You can thank safety standards and accessories for that. You want a lightweight sportscar but you also want power windows. heated seats etc. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370z Black Cherry Sport Pkg - Daily Driver, , 1960 Morgan +4 fun car, 1986 BMW 325ES, 1998 M3 and 1996 Spec Miata - Race Cars SUPPORT TEAM WINSOME RACING - WRL, CHUMP, LEMONS

07-23-2014, 03:52 PM	#45 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Its obvious from the thread Nissan needs to go back to Z31/32 ideology of having 2 engines. I think they should keep the vq for people who are stuck in the vq era. And a 3.0T for people that want to get hardcore with modding the engine and appreciate having a pre-piped FI vehicle. My personal taste would be... If NA power was my main interest? I'd be waiting on further pony car news. in the naturally-aspirated world, there's no replacement for displacement. Which I have my eyes and ears out for the C6 camaro as well. Rumors are that chassis is dropping 300-500 pounds with the alpha platform Me, personally, I love the Z for so many reasons. But that's another thread right there. But if the Z doesn't not meet my expectations. I will finally have to break a life-long rule. I will pay more than $45,000 for my sports car. I am going delve into the arena of 2015 low end supercars.Porsche 911 GT-3, Meredes-Benz C63 AMG, Jaguar F-type R and Corvette Z06. Value for $$,$$$ seems to be decreasing in the current affordable car market. And if the next gen Z is as gimmicky as the 2015 mustang. I gotta spend more money to play. Me and the wife divorced so my finances are free to get deep in the game. Bye BYTCH!!!! Jordo! and falconfixer like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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07-22-2014, 10:21 PM	#32 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	^ Exactly and someone stated earlier the gtr is getting a rather decent power boost so there is plenty of room for even something as crazy as a 500 hp Z. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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my2004Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 285 Drives: 09' 370Z w/Sport 7AT Rep Power: 37	No turbos please! A higher revving, lighter weight with a more balanced power band engine mated to a 2800 lb car will wipe the floor with anything in its targeted class while meeting tighter EPA regulations. Throw in a KERS type boost system good for a 1/4 mile run and you have something worthy of the Z name.

07-22-2014, 10:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
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07-23-2014, 10:04 AM	#42 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	They should just call it a paseo.