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Originally Posted by Jordo! The author claims the 350Z was closer to the orginal 240Z than the current 370Z. Does he mean numerically? Your right on that. I hated the

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Old 07-24-2014, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The author claims the 350Z was closer to the orginal 240Z than the current 370Z. Does he mean numerically?
Your right on that. I hated the 350z. I thought it was ugly. The sweeping back end of the 370z looks more like the early 240-280z.
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Your right on that. I hated the 350z. I thought it was ugly. The sweeping back end of the 370z looks more like the early 240-280z.
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That article is completely just his take on it, a design exercise. It isn't actually based off of any inside info or anything.
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Read this in a motor trend article recently, don't know how valid it is...

While the car will feature a low-slung, swooping body, it will be downsized from the current 370Z to dimensions that resemble the original's. That means the car will lose around 2 inches in width from the current 72.6 inches. Our insider mentions that lightweight high-tensile steel will be used to further reduce the car's curb weight by up to 420 pounds to a class-leading 2866 pounds.

According to a source close to Nissan, the Z35 will be powered by a choice of V-6 and four-cylinder engines at first. Company bosses want to phase out the V-6, though a small but strong fan base might lead engineers to retain it.

Nissan feels that it has to "wean" the motoring public off the six cylinder, which has been its mainstay powerplant since the very beginning, and switch to a more fuel-efficient four. We are told that the new four-cylinder will be a 2.5-liter turbo unit and incorporate direct injection to make at least 330 hp. But our insider explains that Nissan bosses are concerned about fuel economy and CO2 emissions, a fact that will almost certainly force them to reduce power to around 280 hp. For a gutsier Z, we can look to the company's in-house tuning arm Nismo, which is rumored to be working on a 330-plus-hp model.

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The biggest problem I can see with the partnership with MB is their own ego. What they did with Chrysler back in the day is a perfect example. Sure, they gave Chrysler a few items to add some style to what was a very boring vehicle lineup, but at the same time they were turning them into a redheaded stepchild that their own vehicles would easily out-shine. Sure, the Crossfire did alright, but it was specifically built low power so that it couldn't compete against anything in MB's lineup. Another beautiful example of this is what happened to the Chrysler ME412. A Chrysler designed super car with a quad-turbo AMG V12. Originally slated for production, never made it there. Why? Because it out-performed the Mclaren SLR, and cost a great deal less to R&D.

What's the point of my rant? Merely to say that I wouldn't rely on MB to do much to "improve" the Z. Chances are that if they started to make one that might give any of MB's cars a run for their money performance-wise, MB would have a tantrum and pull the plug.

Getting back to the original topic (I apologize for the tangent), I for one sincerely hope that they stay with the V6, as long as they can get the superior power out of it. If they want to resurrect the 240Z (or would it be 250Z in this case?), so be it, but give those of us who still believe the mantra "there's no replacement for displacement" something to work with.
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Chances are that if they started to make one that might give any of MB's cars a run for their money performance-wise, MB would have a tantrum and pull the plug.
Well it "pretty" much does most and/or near close to others except for the newer AMG cars.
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I'm just praying they don't go I4 turbo
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How about Nissan using this engine for the z35 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QxFjId2cd0
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but... no soul....
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As much as I'd love a baby GTR engine, what I'm hoping Nissan can make happen is great handling, good power, good build and material quality, great design and a starting price less than $40,000. Oh, and good headroom for we tall/long of torso folks!

That's a lot to ask but I'm hopeful.
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I would like to see the Z35 drop in weight with a 3.0T, however I doubt Nissan will do that. I know there's been talk about a turbo I4 as well, but I see Nissan, being Nissan and retaining the VQ37 with sheet metal changes. Case in point, the G37 -> Q50 remodel.

Sadly, Nissan has pretty much forgotten about the Z34 since it's introduction and I don't see them making a legitimate effort on the Z35 either. Yes, it's received updates here and there, but the GTR also came out in 2009, and look how much they've improved it compared to the Z.
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imo the best thing that can happen right now, if we don't get a turbo 6, is the z34 go the way of the z32. no car follows for a couple years, and the z34 market stays extremely strong as its the last Z car on the market for the time
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imo the best thing that can happen right now, if we don't get a turbo 6, is the z34 go the way of the z32. no car follows for a couple years, and the z34 market stays extremely strong as its the last Z car on the market for the time


I really hope they don't bastardize the z35
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Seems like the new supra may be a Z competitor after all. I hope nissan doesn't go plug in hybrid.....

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...details-emerge


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Seems like the new supra may be a Z competitor after all. I hope nissan doesn't go plug in hybrid.....

New Toyota Supra Powertrain Details Emerge


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Interesting read. Seem's overly complex with 3 electric motors, but if it meets their performance specs, hard to argue with it.

I dunno, it just drives me nuts that the only answer to higher fuel economy that all of the Asian companies can come up with is to go with a Turbo 4. I realize that it does the trick, and it gets agencies like the EPA off their back. But it just seems like such a cop-out to me. If I had really wanted a car with a turbo 4, I'd just go buy an FRS and be done with it.
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