I don't see that happening. They'd have way too much catch-up to play in order to compete. The GT-R has gotten too good for Toyota to fight with at a competitive price point.

The LF-A can barely hold its own with the GT-R at three times the price, so I just don't see it.

It would make more sense for them to try and steal the Z or top tier Camaro/Mustang crowd. Even then, I suspect the price point will higher, but at least it would have a shot.

They should just call it a paseo.

I don't see the car getting much lighter unless they start using expensive materials. You can thank safety standards and accessories for that. You want a lightweight sportscar but you also want power windows. heated seats etc.

Ive been saying for a year now, that it might share the Q's hybrid. IMO, would be awesome.

Its obvious from the thread Nissan needs to go back to Z31/32 ideology of having 2 engines. I think they should keep the vq for people who are stuck in the vq era. And a 3.0T for people that want to get hardcore with modding the engine and appreciate having a pre-piped FI vehicle.

My personal taste would be... If NA power was my main interest? I'd be waiting on further pony car news. in the naturally-aspirated world, there's no replacement for displacement. Which I have my eyes and ears out for the C6 camaro as well. Rumors are that chassis is dropping 300-500 pounds with the alpha platform

Me, personally, I love the Z for so many reasons. But that's another thread right there. But if the Z doesn't not meet my expectations. I will finally have to break a life-long rule. I will pay more than $45,000 for my sports car. I am going delve into the arena of 2015 low end supercars.Porsche 911 GT-3, Meredes-Benz C63 AMG, Jaguar F-type R and Corvette Z06. Value for $$,$$$ seems to be decreasing in the current affordable car market. And if the next gen Z is as gimmicky as the 2015 mustang. I gotta spend more money to play. Me and the wife divorced so my finances are free to get deep in the game. Bye BYTCH!!!! :happydance: :driving:

My first car was a Paseo...

part of me hopes nissan doesn't put a 3.0 turbo int he next Z so I won't be tempted to losea bunch of money trading in...

I promised I would keep my NISMO for 3 years... I figured that's one to enjoy it and two to see how the new model shakes out. ;)

I would love to see them put that truck V8 in a Z, but I'm a sucker for V8's.

you've come a very very long way. :tup:

I think the V6 3.0 turbo would be very interesting.
But again, Nissan has been following a path of 300zx with a 3.0lt, 350z with a 3.5lt, 370z with a 3.7lt so, somehow people would expect to keep a continuation of this and it could be a non-handmade 3.8lt NA.

Whatever the engine is, if NISSAN doesn't fix the lack of torque and exhaust note, because of not having appropiate cooling, torque restrictions in the ECU and so on…. it will simply be the same 370z story.

so go trade in your z then:rolleyes:

I did say that I love the Z, did I not? Why would I trade my car if I love it? Am I not allowed to recognize that there are other vehicles out there that can be compared to the Z in both specs and price?

you guys have seen this?

Future Cars: Nissan's Next Z Coupe Takes On An Illustrated Diet

Seems more like a Honda CR-Z to me.
Hope Nissan wo'nt aim in that direction, that would be sooo wrong..

The author claims the 350Z was closer to the orginal 240Z than the current 370Z. Does he mean numerically? :icon17:

That article is completely just his take on it, a design exercise. It isn't actually based off of any inside info or anything.

Read this in a motor trend article recently, don't know how valid it is...

While the car will feature a low-slung, swooping body, it will be downsized from the current 370Z to dimensions that resemble the original's. That means the car will lose around 2 inches in width from the current 72.6 inches. Our insider mentions that lightweight high-tensile steel will be used to further reduce the car's curb weight by up to 420 pounds to a class-leading 2866 pounds.

According to a source close to Nissan, the Z35 will be powered by a choice of V-6 and four-cylinder engines at first. Company bosses want to phase out the V-6, though a small but strong fan base might lead engineers to retain it.

Nissan feels that it has to "wean" the motoring public off the six cylinder, which has been its mainstay powerplant since the very beginning, and switch to a more fuel-efficient four. We are told that the new four-cylinder will be a 2.5-liter turbo unit and incorporate direct injection to make at least 330 hp. But our insider explains that Nissan bosses are concerned about fuel economy and CO2 emissions, a fact that will almost certainly force them to reduce power to around 280 hp. For a gutsier Z, we can look to the company's in-house tuning arm Nismo, which is rumored to be working on a 330-plus-hp model.

Zdayz 2014!!

The biggest problem I can see with the partnership with MB is their own ego. What they did with Chrysler back in the day is a perfect example. Sure, they gave Chrysler a few items to add some style to what was a very boring vehicle lineup, but at the same time they were turning them into a redheaded stepchild that their own vehicles would easily out-shine. Sure, the Crossfire did alright, but it was specifically built low power so that it couldn't compete against anything in MB's lineup. Another beautiful example of this is what happened to the Chrysler ME412. A Chrysler designed super car with a quad-turbo AMG V12. Originally slated for production, never made it there. Why? Because it out-performed the Mclaren SLR, and cost a great deal less to R&D.

What's the point of my rant? Merely to say that I wouldn't rely on MB to do much to "improve" the Z. Chances are that if they started to make one that might give any of MB's cars a run for their money performance-wise, MB would have a tantrum and pull the plug.

Getting back to the original topic (I apologize for the tangent), I for one sincerely hope that they stay with the V6, as long as they can get the superior power out of it. If they want to resurrect the 240Z (or would it be 250Z in this case?), so be it, but give those of us who still believe the mantra "there's no replacement for displacement" something to work with.

I'm just praying they don't go I4 turbo :(

Prolly be a 3 litre turbo. Similar to the 335 twin scrolls no doubt.

Your right on that. I hated the 350z. I thought it was ugly. The sweeping back end of the 370z looks more like the early 240-280z.

Well it "pretty" much does most and/or near close to others except for the newer AMG cars.:driving:

How about Nissan using this engine for the z35 ?

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380Z Makes a lot of senses. it even sounds right :icon17:

240z (2400cc), 260z(2600cc), 280z (2800cc), 300zx (3000cc), 350z (3500cc), 370z (3700cc), and they are all 6 cylinders.

http://blog.theregularguynyc.com/wp-...why-84103d.jpg

You! out of the pool!! :tup:

Instant. Fecking. Torque.

but... no soul....

I would like to see the Z35 drop in weight with a 3.0T, however I doubt Nissan will do that. I know there's been talk about a turbo I4 as well, but I see Nissan, being Nissan and retaining the VQ37 with sheet metal changes. Case in point, the G37 -> Q50 remodel.

Sadly, Nissan has pretty much forgotten about the Z34 since it's introduction and I don't see them making a legitimate effort on the Z35 either. Yes, it's received updates here and there, but the GTR also came out in 2009, and look how much they've improved it compared to the Z.

imo the best thing that can happen right now, if we don't get a turbo 6, is the z34 go the way of the z32. no car follows for a couple years, and the z34 market stays extremely strong as its the last Z car on the market for the time

As much as I'd love a baby GTR engine, what I'm hoping Nissan can make happen is great handling, good power, good build and material quality, great design and a starting price less than $40,000. Oh, and good headroom for we tall/long of torso folks!

That's a lot to ask but I'm hopeful. :tup:

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I really hope they don't bastardize the z35

Agreed :tiphat:

Seems like the new supra may be a Z competitor after all. I hope nissan doesn't go plug in hybrid.....

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...details-emerge


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While I'm not completely sold on the hybrid drive trains in sports cars yet (love the instant torque concept just concerned about reliability) 350hp and 3000lbs excites me. I hope they keep it close to the FT1concept styling. :yum: :excited:

IDK a 3.0l VQ with a motor would be sweet! torque on demand all the time.

I agree I just worry bout long term but the car is beautiful.


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Interesting read. Seem's overly complex with 3 electric motors, but if it meets their performance specs, hard to argue with it.

I dunno, it just drives me nuts that the only answer to higher fuel economy that all of the Asian companies can come up with is to go with a Turbo 4. I realize that it does the trick, and it gets agencies like the EPA off their back. But it just seems like such a cop-out to me. If I had really wanted a car with a turbo 4, I'd just go buy an FRS and be done with it.

The FR-S doesn't have a turbo four, it just has a boxer four. Also, Mazda has not done the turbo thing with it's Sky Active technology so not all Japanese brands are going turbo four. That said, Ford and Chevy have been doing a lot of turboing as of late.

Haven't been on here in forever.

Have gone from 09 base Z to 04 sti back to a '12 sport Z back to a '12 sti. If this new Z cuts weight, has legit torque and looks like how a Z should, I'm making the switch again.

I've got no problem with the turbo 4. If they're cutting the dimensions to allow for a sub 3000 lb curb weight, the handling characteristics will more than make up for it.

380z sounds good. 380 hp and 320 torque would be awesome. Maintain the high quality of the interiors and reduce 200 lbs and it should be good to go.

They could always bring back the inline 6 with updated technology behind it and both shed weight and make power. Of course we will be at the EPA's mercy to a point. Which only makes the 3.0T V6 or I6 (would be nice) the default choice that makes sense. I would lean toward I6 because of balance, simplicity (for turbo plumbing as well as others), and most of all weight savings..........

There is an obvious choice, but is NISSAN willing to put for the effort? Until then, I have my turbo Z already.........so I doubt I will be in the market for a new car (unless the wife wants one too).