Toyota back in the game with new " z killer?

chief_Roka · 09-22-2009, 04:48 PM

According to ride lust and edmunds.com.

Toyota WILL be producing a RWD CELICA GT AND GT-4.
These cars will be 2+2 coupe and 3door hatch config.

The N/A GT will get a 2.0ltr 220 hp engine with a weight of 2,866lbs.
The GT-4 will be a turbo or twin turbo of the same engine pushing 300-320hp and possibly an 8,000rpm redline. This car will be under under 3klbs as well.
TT just changes the high end torque loss issue n this car might be a beast?
To make it hurt even more... photos look like it will be a quality ride starting under $20k
Looks like even the genesis coupe is gonna need a refresh soon or its bargain potential will fall thru the floor...
Lastly, toyota back in the day had a rep for true sports cars in 2+2 form.
It might come to the u.s.a. as a toyota or subaru or both but it looks like it may be coming for sure.
What u guys think? Comp for the Z or no?

theDreamer · 09-22-2009, 04:52 PM

Not unless they can actually do it.
There has been talk about this lightweight, quick (200-250HP) car from Toyota/Subaru for awhile now. I heard at one point it was not going to happen and then a few months later it was online still.

semtex · 09-22-2009, 05:31 PM

So, if I'm reading correctly, it'll be a 4-banger, right? One NA, the other TT? I have nothing against 4-cyl. cars per se. But if it wants to be seen as direct competition for the Z, I think they need a 6. Otherwise it'll be considered to be in a different class. Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right? But I think most people consider the STi and Z to be in different genres, if that makes any sense.

BanningZ · 09-22-2009, 06:32 PM

2012 Toyota/Suburu AE86?

This has been discussed for 3 years now.

Its either the new AE86, Supra or Celica.

It will be under 3000lbs, and most likely reach the US shores in a 200-220hp model under the Subaru badge.

Blown32 · 09-22-2009, 06:39 PM

Pure speculation and rumors at best at this time.So the Toyota killer is only a dream!
The killer right now is the Z!

shabarivas · 09-22-2009, 06:40 PM

I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

BanningZ · 09-22-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas

I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

Toyota Subaru Celica — Autoblog

The mythical FT-HS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS

An old rendering of the "new" GT4

GingaBreadMan · 09-22-2009, 07:06 PM

I'm not worried about any car that's out or that comes out. I'm on the road a lot, and let me tell you there is nothing that competes with a 370 driven by a "good driver". I almost feel bad for all these cars that are supposed be formidable and they consistently get spanked on.

kdo2milger · 09-22-2009, 07:09 PM

sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen...

CantZme · 09-22-2009, 07:18 PM

Enjoy,, Yes thats a Supra engine in it,, Thats my boys car from JC Customs at HIN New Hampshire

kannibul · 09-22-2009, 07:29 PM

Sorry, even with a TT setup, a 370z would best a TT car that has similar paper-numbers.

Meaning the torque curve on the Z would best the spin-up turbo power...

kannibul · 09-22-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen...

Even the cobalt SS is 21-22K in a desperate market. And that's a I4 Single Turbo FWD.

kdo2milger · 09-22-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

Even the cobalt SS is 21-22K in a desperate market. And that's a I4 Single Turbo FWD.

is that brand new?

Zsteve · 09-22-2009, 07:38 PM

Coming from the 08 Audi TT 2.0T which is a 4 cyl single turbo under 3K lbs and with a chip I was doing 0 60 in 5.5. Audi now has the TTS 4 cyl 2.0T with a slightly bigger turbo that does 4.9 stock and about 4.5 chipped. Now they have the TTRS which is a 5 cyl turbo that does 4.5 stock and less when chipped. So a 4 banger can hang when done right. But not for less than 40K for Audi. I loved my Audi but I love the new Z too. I went with the Z this time cuz I already had 2 Audi TTs and wanted something different and Ive always loved the Z, just waited till they inproved the interior before I got one. Love the exhasut note on the Z compared to the TT too.

kensin0429 · 09-22-2009, 08:08 PM

why not just 400zx tt or a 10's supra darn even rx9 tt whould kick ***

09-22-2009, 04:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
chief_Roka Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: BKLYN,NY/DFW,TX Posts: 166 Drives: '10 370z7at B.C. Rep Power: 16	Toyota back in the game with new " z killer? According to ride lust and edmunds.com. Toyota WILL be producing a RWD CELICA GT AND GT-4. These cars will be 2+2 coupe and 3door hatch config. The N/A GT will get a 2.0ltr 220 hp engine with a weight of 2,866lbs. The GT-4 will be a turbo or twin turbo of the same engine pushing 300-320hp and possibly an 8,000rpm redline. This car will be under under 3klbs as well. TT just changes the high end torque loss issue n this car might be a beast? To make it hurt even more... photos look like it will be a quality ride starting under $20k Looks like even the genesis coupe is gonna need a refresh soon or its bargain potential will fall thru the floor... Lastly, toyota back in the day had a rep for true sports cars in 2+2 form. It might come to the u.s.a. as a toyota or subaru or both but it looks like it may be coming for sure. What u guys think? Comp for the Z or no?

09-22-2009, 04:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Not unless they can actually do it. There has been talk about this lightweight, quick (200-250HP) car from Toyota/Subaru for awhile now. I heard at one point it was not going to happen and then a few months later it was online still. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

09-22-2009, 05:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	So, if I'm reading correctly, it'll be a 4-banger, right? One NA, the other TT? I have nothing against 4-cyl. cars per se. But if it wants to be seen as direct competition for the Z, I think they need a 6. Otherwise it'll be considered to be in a different class. Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right? But I think most people consider the STi and Z to be in different genres, if that makes any sense. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

09-22-2009, 06:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	2012 Toyota/Suburu AE86? This has been discussed for 3 years now. Its either the new AE86, Supra or Celica. It will be under 3000lbs, and most likely reach the US shores in a 200-220hp model under the Subaru badge. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

09-22-2009, 07:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	I'm not worried about any car that's out or that comes out. I'm on the road a lot, and let me tell you there is nothing that competes with a 370 driven by a "good driver". I almost feel bad for all these cars that are supposed be formidable and they consistently get spanked on. __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

09-22-2009, 06:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Blown32 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N.J. Posts: 289 Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T Rep Power: 16	Pure speculation and rumors at best at this time.So the Toyota killer is only a dream! The killer right now is the Z!

09-22-2009, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

09-22-2009, 07:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen... __________________ Project *NISMO*

09-22-2009, 07:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 267	Sorry, even with a TT setup, a 370z would best a TT car that has similar paper-numbers. Meaning the torque curve on the Z would best the spin-up turbo power...

09-22-2009, 07:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Coming from the 08 Audi TT 2.0T which is a 4 cyl single turbo under 3K lbs and with a chip I was doing 0 60 in 5.5. Audi now has the TTS 4 cyl 2.0T with a slightly bigger turbo that does 4.9 stock and about 4.5 chipped. Now they have the TTRS which is a 5 cyl turbo that does 4.5 stock and less when chipped. So a 4 banger can hang when done right. But not for less than 40K for Audi. I loved my Audi but I love the new Z too. I went with the Z this time cuz I already had 2 Audi TTs and wanted something different and Ive always loved the Z, just waited till they inproved the interior before I got one. Love the exhasut note on the Z compared to the TT too.

09-22-2009, 08:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
kensin0429 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: palmsprings Posts: 244 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 16	why not just 400zx tt or a 10's supra darn even rx9 tt whould kick ***

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