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chief_Roka 09-22-2009 03:48 PM

Toyota back in the game with new " z killer?
 
According to ride lust and edmunds.com.

Toyota WILL be producing a RWD CELICA GT AND GT-4.
These cars will be 2+2 coupe and 3door hatch config.

The N/A GT will get a 2.0ltr 220 hp engine with a weight of 2,866lbs.
The GT-4 will be a turbo or twin turbo of the same engine pushing 300-320hp and possibly an 8,000rpm redline. This car will be under under 3klbs as well.
TT just changes the high end torque loss issue n this car might be a beast?
To make it hurt even more... photos look like it will be a quality ride starting under $20k
Looks like even the genesis coupe is gonna need a refresh soon or its bargain potential will fall thru the floor...
Lastly, toyota back in the day had a rep for true sports cars in 2+2 form.
It might come to the u.s.a. as a toyota or subaru or both but it looks like it may be coming for sure.
What u guys think? Comp for the Z or no?

theDreamer 09-22-2009 03:52 PM

Not unless they can actually do it.
There has been talk about this lightweight, quick (200-250HP) car from Toyota/Subaru for awhile now. I heard at one point it was not going to happen and then a few months later it was online still.

semtex 09-22-2009 04:31 PM

So, if I'm reading correctly, it'll be a 4-banger, right? One NA, the other TT? I have nothing against 4-cyl. cars per se. But if it wants to be seen as direct competition for the Z, I think they need a 6. Otherwise it'll be considered to be in a different class. Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right? But I think most people consider the STi and Z to be in different genres, if that makes any sense.

BanningZ 09-22-2009 05:32 PM

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...buru-ae86.html

This has been discussed for 3 years now.

Its either the new AE86, Supra or Celica.

It will be under 3000lbs, and most likely reach the US shores in a 200-220hp model under the Subaru badge.

Blown32 09-22-2009 05:39 PM

Pure speculation and rumors at best at this time.So the Toyota killer is only a dream!
The killer right now is the Z!

shabarivas 09-22-2009 05:40 PM

I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

BanningZ 09-22-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 208696)
I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

Toyota Subaru Celica — Autoblog

The mythical FT-HS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...s---17_opt.jpg


An old rendering of the "new" GT4
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...r-imagejpg.jpg

GingaBreadMan 09-22-2009 06:06 PM

I'm not worried about any car that's out or that comes out. I'm on the road a lot, and let me tell you there is nothing that competes with a 370 driven by a "good driver". I almost feel bad for all these cars that are supposed be formidable and they consistently get spanked on.

kdo2milger 09-22-2009 06:09 PM

sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen...

CantZme 09-22-2009 06:18 PM

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Enjoy,, Yes thats a Supra engine in it,, Thats my boys car from JC Customs at HIN New Hampshire

kannibul 09-22-2009 06:29 PM

Sorry, even with a TT setup, a 370z would best a TT car that has similar paper-numbers.

Meaning the torque curve on the Z would best the spin-up turbo power...

kannibul 09-22-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 208740)
sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen...

Even the cobalt SS is 21-22K in a desperate market. And that's a I4 Single Turbo FWD.

kdo2milger 09-22-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 208806)
Even the cobalt SS is 21-22K in a desperate market. And that's a I4 Single Turbo FWD.

is that brand new?

Zsteve 09-22-2009 06:38 PM

Coming from the 08 Audi TT 2.0T which is a 4 cyl single turbo under 3K lbs and with a chip I was doing 0 60 in 5.5. Audi now has the TTS 4 cyl 2.0T with a slightly bigger turbo that does 4.9 stock and about 4.5 chipped. Now they have the TTRS which is a 5 cyl turbo that does 4.5 stock and less when chipped. So a 4 banger can hang when done right. But not for less than 40K for Audi. I loved my Audi but I love the new Z too. I went with the Z this time cuz I already had 2 Audi TTs and wanted something different and Ive always loved the Z, just waited till they inproved the interior before I got one. Love the exhasut note on the Z compared to the TT too.

kensin0429 09-22-2009 07:08 PM

why not just 400zx tt or a 10's supra darn even rx9 tt whould kick ***


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