Shifting points?

victorofhavoc

just an fyi to anyone that might be looking around at this thread.

last night I went to play around with what would make the smoothest shift from 1st to 2nd and I discovered if you start pulling the shifter as you begin pressing the clutch (so you disengage before the clutch fully disengages) then you shift into 2nd as you release the clutch and give gas a little earlier you'll get a perfectly smooth shift as if it's an auto. If done correctly this will all be one single smooth motion and you'll have a smoother shift than most automatic transmissions.

the real key is to slip the clutch for a little longer than you would in other types of MT cars.

oh, and I've found the smoothest city driving shifts (besides just not using gas at all and idling all the way to 6th) is around the 2200 to 2500 range...

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mishuko

2.2-2.5? Redline only.
J/K

I do notice from 3ish it's a bit funky. under 3 or over 4 seems to work well for me. I used to go to 5.5 and it was hellasmooth for mebut it's not something you want to do on a colder engine.

here's the weird part... My shifts n-1, 1-2 are smooth but now my 2-3 are jerky. 3-4 , 4-5, 5-6 are smooth too. amateur hour

victorofhavoc

haha, my gf experiences the same thing in my car when she tries to drive it...

try pushing the shifter out of 2nd immediately before you press the clutch (i promise this is very easy and safe on the engine, just don't have your foot on the gas) and then as you're depressing the clutch the last bit slide it into 3rd, add gas, then take about a half second to let off the clutch...


it's weird how every manual trans has some sort of finicky nature between each gear compared to one another...

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Had a 2010 WRX- boy was it quick in a straight line, got a 2014 Z- man is she grippy in the corners-- then left the Z and later got a GTI, now back in an 09 racecar Z!

kenchan

hint: there's no immediate or quick movements for driving the Z or any MT car smoothly. if you're doing any fast movements, you're doing it wrong.

hint2: wear the same shoes, use the same seating position for newbs.

hint3: listen to the car, become part of the car.

JARblue

Slower is smoother if done properly

Fast shifts are fine when you're redlining every gear at the track. Otherwise, it's just clutch in, shift, clutch out. Don't overlap those motions, and be patient. Each shift is different. 1-2 requires the most finesse and patience. But even 3-4 can clunk if you let out the clutch too soon. If you have SRM, use this and practice Kenchan hint #3.

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victorofhavoc

I agree for the most part. However, this being my 7th MT car of yet again a different make, I've learned that some cars like some motions to be overlapped (and that's mostly due to how to pedal engages). I'm not sure about everyone else's Z but mine has the clutch engagement way too high up and past halfway it's all dead zone. I just start releasing in the dead zone when I'm sliding the lever into the next gear. Allows for a very smooth mesh every time.

but yes, definitely slow is smooth. Clutches are meant to be slipped for a reason. Coming from a subaru I can say that clutches will always be cheaper than broken teeth on transmissions...

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Codename067

Do you even shift bro?