Shifting points?

JARblue · 07-27-2014, 09:28 AM

35 mph in 1st, 60 mph in 2nd, and 90 mph in 3rd sounds about right

But in all seriousness, on my daily commute, I often find myself driving 1st and 2nd gear to 5K RPMs and then skipping to 6th gear and cruising around 50 mph.

MagmaRed370z · 07-27-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

35 mph in 1st, 60 mph in 2nd, and 90 mph in 3rd sounds about right

But in all seriousness, on my daily commute, I often find myself driving 1st and 2nd gear to 5K RPMs and then skipping to 6th gear and cruising around 50 mph.

Is skipping gears from 2nd to 6th advisable? I thought that was bad due to something with the syncros.....

JARblue · 07-27-2014, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

Is skipping gears from 2nd to 6th advisable? I thought that was bad due to something with the syncros.....

Absolutely it is bad if you're not patient with it. My 6th gear grinds coming from 5th sometimes, so I am especially careful with it coming from 2nd gear. As long as I wait for the RPMs to settle coming out of 2nd before trying to put it into 6th, everything is fine

aszyd · 07-27-2014, 09:39 PM

Another option, one that I usually use, is to just do quick shifts up to six, rather than making that jump.

JARblue · 07-27-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

Another option, one that I usually use, is to just do quick shifts up to six, rather than making that jump.

But that's not as much fun as redlining 1st and 2nd

onzedge · 07-28-2014, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

But that's not as much fun as redlining 1st and 2nd

aszyd · 07-28-2014, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

But that's not as much fun as redlining 1st and 2nd

That's what I mean. Redline first and second, then do quick shifts up to sixth, that way no gears are skipped.

JARblue · 07-28-2014, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

That's what I mean. Redline first and second, then do quick shifts up to sixth, that way no gears are skipped.

Ahh... gotcha. Just as fun then

I guess I just skip to keep the wear off the clutch rather than running through gears 3-5. With SRM on, I just hover over the 6th gear gate until the RPMs drop before I engage the gear - I think this is less wear on the clutch system than running through the gears quickly. Most people probably do this so infrequently that it doesn't really matter which method they use

victorofhavoc · 07-28-2014, 04:53 PM

I've had my 2014 for exactly a week now and i read what the manual said just out of curiosity, haha. For the sake of the clutch, if you don't use gas getting into first you'll save a lot of miles on the thing, and it helps nourish clutch working skill because going up an incline with just clutch and no gas in traffic is a toughie!

cooltoy · 07-28-2014, 05:27 PM

Does that give you a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd?

MagmaRed370z · 07-28-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

Does that give you a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd?

I don't think there's any smoothness from 1st to 2nd. Nature of the Z tranny.

JARblue · 07-28-2014, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

I don't think there's any smoothness from 1st to 2nd. Nature of the Z tranny.

Wrong

It is possible. It just takes practice and a little patience during the shift maneuver

onzedge · 07-28-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

I don't think there's any smoothness from 1st to 2nd. Nature of the Z tranny.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Wrong

It is possible. It just takes practice and a little patience during the shift maneuver

Swap your trans oil to Redline MT 85 as a start. It greatly improves smoothness, especially when cold.

The RJM clutch pedal upgrade is also a big help.

That said, even when stock I had no problems with shifting. I think the reason is that I know how to drive a manual transmission-equipped car. My wife drives a 6MT Juke also -- just for reference.

JARblue · 07-28-2014, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Swap your trans oil to Redline MT 85 as a start. It greatly improves smoothness, especially when cold.

I put in Redline MT-85 almost from the start and have very little experience with OEM fluid to compare. But I would listen to anything serious this man has to say

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The RJM clutch pedal upgrade is also a big help.

Best mod available under $300. Tremendous improvement. And I had no troubles with the stock clutch either.

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Originally Posted by onzedge

That said, even when stock I had no problems with shifting. I think the reason is that I know how to drive a manual transmission-equipped car. My wife drives a 6MT Juke also -- just for reference.

and for additional reference, we originally purchased the Z for my wife as her daily driver. We got her an AT when she changed jobs and her daily commute went from 15 min of open road to 45 min of snarling traffic all the way across town. She rarely drives the Z now, but when she does it just takes a few 1-2 shifts before she's back in the groove.

I will also add that a tune will improve throttle response and is a very noticeable improvement over the stock map. Better throttle response is a big help in mechanics of operating a manual transmission IMO.

cooltoy · 07-28-2014, 07:32 PM

I though it was me.

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