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ajc1884 07-07-2014 01:43 PM

Are these tires any good? Hercules Raptis Wr1's
 
So when I bought my Z they had to put a new set of rear tires on her in order to Nissan CPO her.
They put on a tire called Hercules Raptis WR1's.
So i've been noticing that when I take a sharp corner at moderate rate of speed (not high speed) they will lose traction and the traction light lights up my dash.

They now have about 300 miles on them....
Do sport tires need time to "break in"? If so, how long? Or do these tires just suck?

thanks in advance!

dP3NGU1N 07-07-2014 01:55 PM

I've never heard of the tires so can't speak to their quality but likely pretty poor. I doubt they would give you max performance tires if they can help it.

Tires often have mold release and other release agents to ease them out of the molds so it's possible you're sliding around on those. They burn off after a few hundred miles.

onzedge 07-07-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2886620)
So when I bought my Z they had to put a new set of rear tires on her in order to Nissan CPO her.
They put on a tire called Hercules Raptis WR1's.
So i've been noticing that when I take a sharp corner at moderate rate of speed (not high speed) they will lose traction and the traction light lights up my dash.

They now have about 300 miles on them....
Do sport tires need time to "break in"? If so, how long? Or do these tires just suck?

thanks in advance!

There is a break-in for tires. However, your tires "suck" as you put it.

Take heed of this:

Onzedge™ Tire Tip Number 1: Never cut corners on tires and always buy the best. They are all that exixts between you and the road.

JARblue 07-07-2014 02:10 PM

I would never use a tire called "Rapist" :wtf2:

onzedge 07-07-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2886654)
I would never use a tire called "Rapist" :wtf2:

:icon17:

ajc1884 07-07-2014 02:15 PM

they suck?????? ahhhhhhhhh. Hercules website says they are their "flagship tire"...

jpkirk 07-07-2014 03:04 PM

Hmmm, doesn't show up at TireRack. No dealers in my area. Gotta wonder where they even picked them up. Back of sombodies Cheby?

Yea, I'm with others, never even heard of these guys. They probably suck.

jpkirk 07-07-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2886656)
they suck?????? ahhhhhhhhh. Hercules website says they are their "flagship tire"...

What is the flagship of "suck?" Probably still suck I bet.

m4a1mustang 07-07-2014 03:27 PM

Do yourself a favor and replace all four tires with a matching set of not-crappy tires.

onzedge 07-07-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2886727)
Do yourself a favor and replace all four tires with a matching set of not-crappy tires.

:iagree:

kenchan 07-07-2014 03:35 PM

next question wat do you guys suggest?


next answer: PSS

then kenchan comes in, S04 is goodly too :tup:

then people are like :shakes head:

onzedge 07-07-2014 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2886743)
next question wat do you guys suggest?


next answer: PSS

then kenchan comes in, S04 is goodly too :tup:

then people are like :shakes head:

Although :iagree:, I reported this. :tup:

IDZRVIT 07-07-2014 05:01 PM

Hercule's Tires are not a top of the line tire as compared to say a Michelin. If you drive like a granny, you'll be ok but they probably won't last.

m4a1mustang 07-07-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2886743)
next question wat do you guys suggest?


next answer: PSS

then kenchan comes in, S04 is goodly too :tup:

then people are like :shakes head:

PSS are fantastic.

I am using S04s right now and think they are great as well. If you don't feel like spending on PSS they are a very good choice. :tup:

onzedge 07-07-2014 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2886917)
PSS are fantastic.

I am using S04s right now and think they are great as well. If you don't feel like spending on PSS they are a very good choice. :tup:

PSS are the way to go, unless you go with the S04, which are also quite good.

DjSquall 07-07-2014 06:59 PM

PSS are amazing.

OP, you know what to do 👍

onzedge 07-07-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2886976)
PSS are amazing.

OP, you know what to do ��

:iagree:

Mt Tam I am 07-07-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2886917)
PSS are fantastic.

I am using S04s right now and think they are great as well. If you don't feel like spending on PSS they are a very good choice. :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2886933)
PSS are the way to go, unless you go with the S04, which are also quite good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2886976)
PSS are amazing.

OP, you know what to do 👍

You are already losing traction in the corners. Do the above recommended.

ZeroZeta 07-07-2014 07:59 PM

OP - I never heard of this tire brand and really couldn't find much info about them.

Basically it doesn't look like it was designed to be the high performing tire you might have expected.

My advice is to drive like a granny until you get rims then you use them as a second set of knock around/temp tires. ie be a safe driver first.

Ubetit 07-07-2014 08:43 PM

The widest tire I could find in the Rapist is a 255/35/20 for $89. My bicycle tires were almost that much.

ajc1884 07-08-2014 07:13 AM

Well looks like its time to save up for a good set of tires. Till then ill drive like grandpa in the corners.
..they haven't lost traction when I punch it in a straight line...these tires confuse me...

ill report back in a few hundred miles when they are properly broken in.

onzedge 07-08-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2887500)
Well looks like its time to save up for a good set of tires. Till then ill drive like grandpa in the corners.
..they haven't lost traction when I punch it in a straight line...these tires confuse me...

ill report back in a few hundred miles when they are properly broken in.

Good luck. :tiphat:

m4a1mustang 07-08-2014 07:22 AM

I know I can't be the only one...

http://media.giphy.com/media/SVLnDFJvvJG80/giphy.gif

onzedge 07-08-2014 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2887513)

:icon17:

2011 Nismo#91 07-08-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

The company (Hercules) was founded in 1952 and is headquartered in Findlay, Ohio with a representative office in Guangzhou, China; a distribution center in Findlay, Ohio; and a warehouse location in Shandong, China.
Cheap Chinese tire.

ajc1884 07-08-2014 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2887581)
Cheap Chinese tire.

DAM.. u people got me scared as hell of these tires. I feel like going today and have them replaced and trashed.

what should I get?
Michelin A/S 3?
Hanhook Ventus V12?
Michelin PSS ?

I wont track car....I want something quiet and comfortable..BUT that doesn't lose traction in the curves...( screw u Hercules :shakes head:)
whats my best option??

jpkirk 07-08-2014 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2887581)
Cheap Chinese tire.

Should be good for doing donuts and burnouts. In a safe and legal manner mind you.

That'll get the rears worn out real fast.

ssmoked 07-08-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2887611)
DAM.. u people got me scared as hell of these tires. I feel like going today and have them replaced and trashed.

what should I get?
Michelin A/S 3?
Hanhook Ventus V12?
Michelin PSS ?

I wont track car....I want something quiet and comfortable..BUT that doesn't lose traction in the curves...( screw u Hercules :shakes head:)
whats my best option??

I am currently running A/S 3 and I love them. They will last you longer than PSS and traction is very good at launches and corners.
I also had V12. Don't get those. After mine were half way used, traction was like zero specially straight line.

jpkirk 07-08-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2887611)
DAM.. u people got me scared as hell of these tires. I feel like going today and have them replaced and trashed.

what should I get?
Michelin A/S 3?
Hanhook Ventus V12?
Michelin PSS ?

I wont track car....I want something quiet and comfortable..BUT that doesn't lose traction in the curves...( screw u Hercules :shakes head:)
whats my best option??

The other thing to do is go out to the TireRack.com and look at their comparisons. Many reviews of many different tires. Many things to take into consideration. PSS are rockin tires but not good in cold temperatures. If the Z is your daily driver, and you will drive it in the winter in PA, and you can't afford another set of wheels with more reasonable winter tires, that could be a problem. Do the research and make a decision that fits your driving across the entire year.

m4a1mustang 07-08-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2887611)
DAM.. u people got me scared as hell of these tires. I feel like going today and have them replaced and trashed.

what should I get?
Michelin A/S 3?
Hanhook Ventus V12?
Michelin PSS ?

I wont track car....I want something quiet and comfortable..BUT that doesn't lose traction in the curves...( screw u Hercules :shakes head:)
whats my best option??

If you don't mind the cost, PSS. Bridgestone Potenza S04 is another good option that doesn't cost quite as much.

Stay away from the V12.

Mt Tam I am 07-08-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2887611)
DAM.. u people got me scared as hell of these tires. I feel like going today and have them replaced and trashed.

what should I get?
Michelin A/S 3?
Hanhook Ventus V12?
Michelin PSS ?

I wont track car....I want something quiet and comfortable..BUT that doesn't lose traction in the curves...( screw u Hercules :shakes head:)
whats my best option??


Come on OP and read what has been written for you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2887722)
If you don't mind the cost, PSS. Bridgestone Potenza S04 is another good option that doesn't cost quite as much.

Stay away from the V12.


Here it is again.

ajc1884 07-08-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 2887775)

Come on OP and read what has been written for you.





Here it is again.


:wtf2:

jpkirk 07-08-2014 12:26 PM

I think the OP get's it. :tiphat:

Spooler 07-08-2014 01:34 PM

Hercules, the chinese tires that loves to come apart. Yeap, heard of them before.

conor1123 07-08-2014 01:48 PM

I usually see Hercules on a lot of off road vehicles around here. They try and lure you in with a good price but its just a cheap tire. My buddy's 4runner came with them and the front ones are now separated lol!

Limeybastard 07-08-2014 02:23 PM

It was my understanding thst some well known brands sell tires under different names at a much lower price but almost as good quality.

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Dwight Frye 07-08-2014 05:34 PM

Buy the Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I am ordering a new set this week. I replaced the original OEM tires at 17K miles. The Michelin PSS that I replaced them with have gone 27K miles and I could probably get another 3,000 miles out of them but they are getting noisy as the tread diminishes and the car already has way too much road noise. My car is a daily driver and I think 25K + miles on those tires is very reasonable. The best price I have found is from Discount Tire.

onzedge 07-08-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye (Post 2888155)
Buy the Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I am ordering a new set this week. I replaced the original OEM tires at 17K miles. The Michelin PSS that I replaced them with have gone 27K miles and I could probably get another 3,000 miles out of them but they are getting noisy as the tread diminishes and the car already has way too much road noise. My car is a daily driver and I think 25K + miles on those tires is very reasonable. The best price I have found is from Discount Tire.

:tup:

ajc1884 08-07-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884 (Post 2886620)
So when I bought my Z they had to put a new set of rear tires on her in order to Nissan CPO her.
They put on a tire called Hercules Raptis WR1's.
So i've been noticing that when I take a sharp corner at moderate rate of speed (not high speed) they will lose traction and the traction light lights up my dash.

They now have about 300 miles on them....
Do sport tires need time to "break in"? If so, how long? Or do these tires just suck?

thanks in advance!

Update.....
Well I have almost 1000 miles on these tires now and they are gripping 100% better (dry road, wet road). I admit not as well as the tires I had on my 2009 Z, Toyo Proxes T1R's. I'm not scared of them anymore as I was when I first drove on them.
Someone needs to tell Hercules that the substance left on the tires after their molding process is VERY SLIPPERY until around the 800 miles mark.

Just wanted to let everyone know. :tup:

kenchan 08-07-2014 09:40 AM

lol'ed at proxes... i didnt know people still run toyo's.


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