Can Nissan Beat BMW? 370Z vs. 135i

Crash · 12-27-2008, 12:40 AM

Nah... 235 Drag radials will grip better than 275 touring tire.

Evolved · 12-27-2008, 12:53 PM

I can't see too many 135 owners running DR's on their car, especially a daily driver. Regular summer tires would be a bit more realistic.

Crash · 12-27-2008, 05:53 PM

Here in Los Angeles, we run on DRs all the time. Some of the guys have the two sets of tires, but - for instance - we have some guys that run on DRs ALL the time because we race on a daily basis.

The guys here that drive BMWs will often run on DRs.

frost · 12-27-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Here in Los Angeles, we run on DRs all the time. Some of the guys have the two sets of tires, but - for instance - we have some guys that run on DRs ALL the time because we race on a daily basis.

The guys here that drive BMWs will often run on DRs.

It seems like the only thing that makes the bimmer worth the extra money is the "comfort" factor. If you remove that with nosier tires, they might as well save five large and get a Z

Crash · 12-27-2008, 07:09 PM

Dunno about that. I find a sports car to be A LOT more comfy than ANY luxury car I've ever been in. I was born to drive sports cars. I HATE the feel of luxury cars.

EDIT: to clarify, I like the seats the grip, and are lower to the ground.

o0javi0o · 12-28-2008, 01:27 AM

Maintenance will be more cheaper, i assume, than a bimmer. important factor to be considered.

Crash · 12-28-2008, 01:42 AM

^^^ Plus BMW name... A headlight went out on my friends '01 3 series and AutoZone's price for the headlights were $58!!!

My HID bulbs on my Z are like $8, and the Halogens I had on my Trans Am were like $14. That's just crazy!!! And she had just basic every day lights!

Nissan FTMFW!

sensi09 · 12-28-2008, 07:35 AM

BMW does have it's 4 year/50K mile warranty, which covers pretty much everything, from changes to brakes and anything that might go wrong with the car. This warranty can be extended to 6yr/100K.

sensi09 · 12-28-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

It seems like the only thing that makes the bimmer worth the extra money is the "comfort" factor. If you remove that with nosier tires, they might as well save five large and get a Z

Well the 135i does come equipped with runflats, which are not supposed to help ride quality.

G37Sam · 12-28-2008, 10:03 AM

love how everyone on the 1 series forum is saying its not a fair comparison since 1 series is a 4-seater? really??? good luck squishing 4 people in there
theyre gonna have to have their legs chopped off first!

o0javi0o · 12-28-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sensi09

BMW does have it's 4 year/50K mile warranty, which covers pretty much everything, from changes to brakes and anything that might go wrong with the car. This warranty can be extended to 6yr/100K.

Yep, I know, but my point is, when this warranty gets expired, if anything happens on the BMW, electrical problems, engine, tire, oil changes, etc... then it is going to be a negative in you in long terms.
I had a lease in a BMW X3 with Sport M Package and I had electrical problems with tire pressure sensors (My mother in law M6 had this problem too). I had problems with the exhaust system, rattling noises, they changed the whole exhaust system.
Also had a ticking noise in the engine which the could never fix during the life of the lease. Anyway I was pleased with their service, they put a lot of attention in customers.
All of this compared to my experience with my 350z (I got it 4 month later) I haven't gotten any problems yet, besides a recall on the clutch (Clutch slave cylinder replaced). I do have to pay for the oil changes, but is not a pain in the a*s. No electrical problems yet, etc.

This is the point that I am trying to get. that at long term, if the car is not a lease or you have plans to stay with the car for more than 5, 6, 7 yrs, maybe it is going to cost you big bucks at long term, without pushing the car to the limits.
Maybe I wasn't lucky enough and my mother in law too, but you know.
But they still are great cars but with many little stuff to be observed.

my point of view in maintenance

Alexus · 12-28-2008, 11:20 AM

^^
Bad things typically happen to your car after the warranty has expired. It's not mystery that BMW parts are expensive and that those 6-piston brakes on the front of that Bimmer aren't going to go for cheap once they're done.

Maintenance on a Nissan is cheap and that's one of the main reasons I'm sitting out my next car buy and waiting for the 370Z to come out. I would have bought an Infiniti G37 coupe... but I'm waiting.

frost · 12-28-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus

^^
Bad things typically happen to your car after the warranty has expired. It's not mystery that BMW parts are expensive and that those 6-piston brakes on the front of that Bimmer aren't going to go for cheap once they're done.

Maintenance on a Nissan is cheap and that's one of the main reasons I'm sitting out my next car buy and waiting for the 370Z to come out. I would have bought an Infiniti G37 coupe... but I'm waiting.

The extended warranty itself is also much more expensive with BMWs.

drmike · 12-28-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

love how everyone on the 1 series forum is saying its not a fair comparison since 1 series is a 4-seater? really??? good luck squishing 4 people in there
theyre gonna have to have their legs chopped off first!

I like bimmers, don't get me wrong. But yeah, I sat in the 1-series at the LA Auto Show, and I had an average-height man get in the driver's seat ahead of me and adjust the seat to his liking. When he was finished, my feet were trapped, and my knees were almost in my chest (I'm 6'2" 180#). That, plus the weight of the car, plus the looks of the car in person, plus the price, plus the lack of personal gravitation to the car, totally changed my mind, and turned off my "need" for a 135i (though I still like the car).

The same day, I checked out the 370Z, and had the opposite reaction. Instant "me wanty".

Namir · 12-28-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by drmike

I like bimmers, don't get me wrong. But yeah, I sat in the 1-series at the LA Auto Show, and I had an average-height man get in the driver's seat ahead of me and adjust the seat to his liking. When he was finished, my feet were trapped, and my knees were almost in my chest (I'm 6'2" 180#). That, plus the weight of the car, plus the looks of the car in person, plus the price, plus the lack of personal gravitation to the car, totally changed my mind, and turned off my "need" for a 135i (though I still like the car).

The same day, I checked out the 370Z, and had the opposite reaction. Instant "me wanty".

I agree 100%

I thought the 135i would be awesome, until I saw one in person and sat in the back seat. The back seats are smaller than the G35/37 ones. My head was hitting the glass and my knees were smashed into the front seat. If I really wanted a BMW I would get the 335 coupe over a 135 any day. A couple grand more for much better looks and comfort.

I think any enthusiast can recognize that the Z is a true sports car while the 1 series will always be a sporty luxury car.. not quite the same.

12-27-2008, 12:40 AM	#16 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	Nah... 235 Drag radials will grip better than 275 touring tire. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	Here in Los Angeles, we run on DRs all the time. Some of the guys have the two sets of tires, but - for instance - we have some guys that run on DRs ALL the time because we race on a daily basis. The guys here that drive BMWs will often run on DRs. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

12-27-2008, 07:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	Dunno about that. I find a sports car to be A LOT more comfy than ANY luxury car I've ever been in. I was born to drive sports cars. I HATE the feel of luxury cars. EDIT: to clarify, I like the seats the grip, and are lower to the ground. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

12-28-2008, 01:42 AM	#22 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	^^^ Plus BMW name... A headlight went out on my friends '01 3 series and AutoZone's price for the headlights were $58!!! My HID bulbs on my Z are like $8, and the Halogens I had on my Trans Am were like $14. That's just crazy!!! And she had just basic every day lights! Nissan FTMFW! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 21	love how everyone on the 1 series forum is saying its not a fair comparison since 1 series is a 4-seater? really??? good luck squishing 4 people in there theyre gonna have to have their legs chopped off first! __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

12-27-2008, 12:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
Evolved Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA Posts: 66 Drives: Evo VIII Rep Power: 204	I can't see too many 135 owners running DR's on their car, especially a daily driver. Regular summer tires would be a bit more realistic.

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o0javi0o Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 458 Drives: '15 ///M3 6MT Rep Power: 17	Maintenance will be more cheaper, i assume, than a bimmer. important factor to be considered.

12-28-2008, 07:35 AM	#23 (permalink)
sensi09 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 449 Drives: _ Rep Power: 17	BMW does have it's 4 year/50K mile warranty, which covers pretty much everything, from changes to brakes and anything that might go wrong with the car. This warranty can be extended to 6yr/100K.

12-28-2008, 11:20 AM	#27 (permalink)
Alexus Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 178 Drives: The Beast Rep Power: 17	^^ Bad things typically happen to your car after the warranty has expired. It's not mystery that BMW parts are expensive and that those 6-piston brakes on the front of that Bimmer aren't going to go for cheap once they're done. Maintenance on a Nissan is cheap and that's one of the main reasons I'm sitting out my next car buy and waiting for the 370Z to come out. I would have bought an Infiniti G37 coupe... but I'm waiting.

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