Nissan 370Z Forum  

Magnetic Black Paint: Is It TOO Soft?

Alright if you guys have been noticing, I've been a little more active on the forums because I'm getting a little more aggressive with the purchase now. My situation now

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-14-2009, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dania, FL
Posts: 148
Drives: 04 S2000
Rep Power: 16
Bibimbap is on a distinguished road
Default Magnetic Black Paint: Is It TOO Soft?

Alright if you guys have been noticing, I've been a little more active on the forums because I'm getting a little more aggressive with the purchase now. My situation now is picking a car that is the color I want, but for $1000 more than the other dealership wants to offer the secondary color I like.

So it would be either pearl white or magnetic black... Maybe even Brilliant Silver.

I've only read from other members that the paint is really easy to scratch and there have been some random paint issues occurring. I know black is hard to maintain from the get-go, but is Nissan's black paint more difficult to deal with and to maintain than other black cars? Is it softer / more thin in comparison to the 350z paint?

The point I'm trying to get to is if I buy the magnetic black 370z, am I going to be seeing scratches all over the car to no end? I'll be putting a clearbra on some spots, but it might not help the doors and other unguarded spots. I will be keeping covered with a car cover and garage though when it's at home. So that brings up another question, if it does scratch and blemish easily... will I be happier with a brighter color like pearl white, silver, or even monterey blue?

Thanks for any feedback guys.
Bibimbap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 07:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
CrownR426's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: South Korea
Posts: 4,676
Drives: Manual
Rep Power: 848
CrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond reputeCrownR426 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

It depends on you.
Will you be able to take care of the car?
If your a neat freak, black won't hurt so won't white.
But if your not gonna take time to wash and wax you shouldn't cause you will see how dirty black can be.
__________________
Love + Hardwork + Passion
RIP SVTRacer
CrownR426 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: california 707!
Posts: 677
Drives: 09 370z Blk 6mt sprt
Rep Power: 258
Forrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond reputeForrest has a reputation beyond repute
Default

this is my first black z so i cant comment.
I do know bug guts can eat through the clear coat with ease.
Mine came with dealership installed spider webbing, not to bad but its noticable some times. I cant really tell if i am increaseing. But after 6 months of ownership with 5,000 miles its not any more progressivly worse.
Forrest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ZCarMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: MD
Posts: 4,488
Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150
Rep Power: 26
ZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant futureZCarMan has a brilliant future
Default

I have the metallic black and yes it is more work to keep clean. I put a ventureshield cover on the front of the car (bumper, hood, headlights, and fenders) immediately after I bought it to prevent the scratches and chips and it works fine and has a lifetime warranty. Regardless of what color you choose, I would recommend you put some type of protective covering on it such as Clearbra just to give you the added protection and also to make it easier to maintain. I live in a condo and I use a car cover on mine and it works just fine. Keep it waxed regardless and you'll have fewer problems. Just my two cents for your consideration. Good Luck whatever you decide!
__________________
Jon
Swift | SPC | Stillen | Motordyne | AAM | Cobb | Hawk | Volk Racing | Bridgestone
Green Demon Eyes
ZCarMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dania, FL
Posts: 148
Drives: 04 S2000
Rep Power: 16
Bibimbap is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZCarMan View Post
I have the metallic black and yes it is more work to keep clean. I put a ventureshield cover on the front of the car (bumper, hood, headlights, and fenders) immediately after I bought it to prevent the scratches and chips and it works fine and has a lifetime warranty. Regardless of what color you choose, I would recommend you put some type of protective covering on it such as Clearbra just to give you the added protection and also to make it easier to maintain. I live in a condo and I use a car cover on mine and it works just fine. Keep it waxed regardless and you'll have fewer problems. Just my two cents for your consideration. Good Luck whatever you decide!
I definitely plan on getting ventureshield done on the car as soon as I purchase it.
Bibimbap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
huff442's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NW Arkansas
Age: 54
Posts: 309
Drives: 09 370Z 6mt Tour/Spt
Rep Power: 16
huff442 is on a distinguished road
Default

My 370Z is Magnetic Black. Currently i have around 5500 miles on it (my office is 2 miles from my house). I've only taken it on a long drive twice. Once about 400 miles and recently about 1000 miles. Right now, the front of my car has more rock chips in it than my wife's Chevy Trailblazer with 78k miles. I found another big chip on the hood near the windshield this weekend.

I have heard two theory's on why this paint chips so bad. One is the paint just isn't very durable. I haven't looked up the factory paint in any books yet, but it appears to be fairly thin, like a simple single stage paint.

The second is that the base material, mostly aluminum and urethane, doesn't offer enough support to the paint. This allows the paint to flex too much and chip easily.

I make a point to leave myself plenty of room between me and the vehicle in front on me, but somehow i still get these rock chips.

Now, if i had known this 3 months ago would it have affected my buying decision? Probably not. I love the car and love the color. I'm sure in the future it will get repainted (the factory color), but with a more durable two stage paint with several coats of clear.
huff442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dania, FL
Posts: 148
Drives: 04 S2000
Rep Power: 16
Bibimbap is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by huff442 View Post
My 370Z is Magnetic Black. Currently i have around 5500 miles on it (my office is 2 miles from my house). I've only taken it on a long drive twice. Once about 400 miles and recently about 1000 miles. Right now, the front of my car has more rock chips in it than my wife's Chevy Trailblazer with 78k miles. I found another big chip on the hood near the windshield this weekend.

I have heard two theory's on why this paint chips so bad. One is the paint just isn't very durable. I haven't looked up the factory paint in any books yet, but it appears to be fairly thin, like a simple single stage paint.

The second is that the base material, mostly aluminum and urethane, doesn't offer enough support to the paint. This allows the paint to flex too much and chip easily.

I make a point to leave myself plenty of room between me and the vehicle in front on me, but somehow i still get these rock chips.

Now, if i had known this 3 months ago would it have affected my buying decision? Probably not. I love the car and love the color. I'm sure in the future it will get repainted (the factory color), but with a more durable two stage paint with several coats of clear.

Do you feel the rock chips could have been managed with a clear bra?
Bibimbap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
huff442's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NW Arkansas
Age: 54
Posts: 309
Drives: 09 370Z 6mt Tour/Spt
Rep Power: 16
huff442 is on a distinguished road
Default

Maybe. I live in a tiny farm town in the middle of a corn field (Iowa). There's not even a tint shop within 60 miles. I have read that some people have had good luck with the durability of the clear bras, but i personally have never seen one. I can't imagine it making things worse. I think if i had known about the paint issues ahead of time, i would have taken my car straight to a good paint shop and had them lay on a few coats of clear.
huff442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 10:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bibimbap View Post
Alright if you guys have been noticing, I've been a little more active on the forums because I'm getting a little more aggressive with the purchase now. My situation now is picking a car that is the color I want, but for $1000 more than the other dealership wants to offer the secondary color I like.

So it would be either pearl white or magnetic black... Maybe even Brilliant Silver.

I've only read from other members that the paint is really easy to scratch and there have been some random paint issues occurring. I know black is hard to maintain from the get-go, but is Nissan's black paint more difficult to deal with and to maintain than other black cars? Is it softer / more thin in comparison to the 350z paint?

The point I'm trying to get to is if I buy the magnetic black 370z, am I going to be seeing scratches all over the car to no end? I'll be putting a clearbra on some spots, but it might not help the doors and other unguarded spots. I will be keeping covered with a car cover and garage though when it's at home. So that brings up another question, if it does scratch and blemish easily... will I be happier with a brighter color like pearl white, silver, or even monterey blue?

Thanks for any feedback guys.
Black shows everything. It's why I wanted platinum. But, I got a killer deal on a black one that had the options I wanted, except it had a 7AT. After I drove it, I was fine with the AT. It's nice being able to focus completely on driving than having to watch my RPM's, and, when I want it to act like a manual, I can do that too.


I keep mine uncovered in the garage 99% of the time. The other 1% of the time, I'm driving it.

The paint already has etched spots from bugs. Apparently, even a good wax job doesn't help...or a re-cleared hood (just pointing out it's not the paint at fault)

Smaller bugs (flies and smaller) = OK
Bigger bugs = paint etch
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 10:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by huff442 View Post
My 370Z is Magnetic Black. Currently i have around 5500 miles on it (my office is 2 miles from my house). I've only taken it on a long drive twice. Once about 400 miles and recently about 1000 miles. Right now, the front of my car has more rock chips in it than my wife's Chevy Trailblazer with 78k miles. I found another big chip on the hood near the windshield this weekend.

I have heard two theory's on why this paint chips so bad. One is the paint just isn't very durable. I haven't looked up the factory paint in any books yet, but it appears to be fairly thin, like a simple single stage paint.

The second is that the base material, mostly aluminum and urethane, doesn't offer enough support to the paint. This allows the paint to flex too much and chip easily.

I make a point to leave myself plenty of room between me and the vehicle in front on me, but somehow i still get these rock chips.

Now, if i had known this 3 months ago would it have affected my buying decision? Probably not. I love the car and love the color. I'm sure in the future it will get repainted (the factory color), but with a more durable two stage paint with several coats of clear.
I have another theory.

This car is low to the ground and cuts through the air, instead of pushing it's way through it.

Another "tip" - don't tailgate anyone, ever. That's how you end up with spotted bumper syndrome.

And with this car...it's also spotted hood, A-pillars, fenders, and potentially windshield.

I've decided that I'll either have the car repainted in about 10 years, or I'm not going to drive it. Either way. lol...

I've got a nick in my fascia from a rock or something... - new bumper when I get enough of 'em.
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 10:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N.J.
Posts: 289
Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T
Rep Power: 16
Blown32 is on a distinguished road
Default

My favorite color is black and I have had many black cars and trucks.So I purchased a black 09 Z.There is nothing in my opinion better looking when detailed then a black car.
As to the quality of the paint job it sure leaves alot to desire.I have never ever had such difficulty with a black car as with this one.The paint on this car it the worst I have ever seen and had to deal with.It chips very very easily and the clear coat is worthless.Any bird droppings etch into the clear immediately.Regardless of wax.Believe me I detail and wax my car always.Garaged all the time when not driving.Even if I'am just stopping home for 10 minutes it is pulled into the garage.
The clear is etched in many spots from the bird droppings.Now I don't have any different birds then I've had for 30 years here so it is definetly the paint.
I also own a Toyota suv that I have had for 7 years now and have only maybe waxed 3 times.Always washed and kept clean but parked outside.Not ONE mark ever from bird droppings!
This is my first Nissan and have no experience before with this but have had GM vehicles also and never anything like this.
I bought for the wife and naturally I take care of it always and enjoy keeping it detalied.Just that this is the worst experience I have ever had with a black car.
By reading the posts on this forum regarding the paint it seems to be the general consensus that the paint is an issue.It just isn't black from what I read also.
As for the car itself we love it and have no complaints other then the paint issue.Some issue with the rear hatch releasing but all vehicles will have some small issues.
First oil change at 2800 miles and was a half a qt. low then.Of course we don't know where it was filled to from the factory but we monitor it now. Switched to Mobil 1 at that point and filled to the top level on the dipstick and now a 1000 miles later and level hasn't moved.
For a sports car with all the features and detail Nissan put into the new design it is a great car.Would of been nice if they didn't pinch on the paint quality.Maybe they have caught on to how easy and gullable we are in the US?
Blown32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 11:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
Track Member
 
NIZMOZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 634
Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6
Rep Power: 491
NIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Welcome to 1995. Nissan Paint, and other manufactures due to environmental changes are using thinner coats of paint on cars, so they chip and scratch easier.
__________________
SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy
New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC
NIZMOZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 11:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NIZMOZ View Post
Welcome to 1995. Nissan Paint, and other manufactures due to environmental changes are using thinner coats of paint on cars, so they chip and scratch easier.
Yeah, eventually, I'll probably not care.

That, or I'll get a custom paint job done, and it'll be robust enough to handle chips.
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 11:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
Track Member
 
NIZMOZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 634
Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6
Rep Power: 491
NIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond reputeNIZMOZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by huff442 View Post
My 370Z is Magnetic Black. Currently i have around 5500 miles on it (my office is 2 miles from my house). I've only taken it on a long drive twice. Once about 400 miles and recently about 1000 miles. Right now, the front of my car has more rock chips in it than my wife's Chevy Trailblazer with 78k miles. I found another big chip on the hood near the windshield this weekend.

I have heard two theory's on why this paint chips so bad. One is the paint just isn't very durable. I haven't looked up the factory paint in any books yet, but it appears to be fairly thin, like a simple single stage paint.

The second is that the base material, mostly aluminum and urethane, doesn't offer enough support to the paint. This allows the paint to flex too much and chip easily.

I make a point to leave myself plenty of room between me and the vehicle in front on me, but somehow i still get these rock chips.

Now, if i had known this 3 months ago would it have affected my buying decision? Probably not. I love the car and love the color. I'm sure in the future it will get repainted (the factory color), but with a more durable two stage paint with several coats of clear.
SUV vs a Sports car you can't compare. SUV is way higher and has no paint on the front exposed that is low to the ground.
__________________
SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy
New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC
NIZMOZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 02:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: N.J.
Posts: 289
Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T
Rep Power: 16
Blown32 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NIZMOZ View Post
SUV vs a Sports car you can't compare. SUV is way higher and has no paint on the front exposed that is low to the ground.
As I stated in my post it is a given as far as paint chips in the front of the Z because of being low.Was talking about the paint on the suv compared to the paint on the Z.Much better paint on the Toyota and many other makes compared to the cheap paint on our Z.
We can make all the excuses we want as far as this or that.The paint is junk!
Blown32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cyberium's Magnetic Black Z Cyberium Member's 370Z Gallery 33 07-18-2009 11:45 PM
my child...in magnetic black ejrives Member's 370Z Gallery 14 05-24-2009 01:53 PM
New Magnetic Black 370Z Owner! 3SeventyZ New 370Z Owner 10 05-12-2009 05:00 PM
Zcoupez magnetic black 370 zcoupe09 Member's 370Z Gallery 11 04-09-2009 10:41 AM
Zeebra's Magnetic Black Z zeebra Member's 370Z Gallery 11 03-31-2009 06:08 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2